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Final Fantasy VII Remake Team Urgently Recruiting, Heres A Message From Key Staff
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LordKasual
Banned
The quicker Square gets its key studios privy to modern HD development, the faster they'll churn out games
I was praying that Luminous Studio would make this process faster, but it's obvious now that it's not going to happen that fast
Boy.....
Biggest joke in gaming right now this game is. Everything about it is a shitshow, stem to stern.
Oh yeah whatever, front like announcing a remake of a game years ago, just now starting to staff up years later so that it can enter the development progress phase on a project scheduled to ship in 3 fucking parts across what's looking to be a goddamn decade is COMPLETELY NORMAL AND OKAY brehs.
Nah. This is a hot mess. Announcing it when they did, knowing they were nowhere NEAR ready was wrong.
Only in fanboy wet dreams was this a 2017 title.
Tabata directed my 3rd favorite Final Fantasy game, so that's not really the problem (imo). The problem is if SE's upper management is willing to let this game be developed until it is actually ready to release (and if Nomura and crew are actually progressing on the game, lol). We know Tabata can get shit done, even with impossible deadlines. But Nomura? Hard to say. He is aided by longterm staff and a complete engine (UE4) so theoretically it should be the sweet spot.
Now, they probably realized partway that making the entirety of FF VII into a fully developed, highly-detailed 3D experience is no small feat. This will be the most complicated product they've ever dealt with.
LordKasual
Banned
^ this is why development studios are typically scarce with their development details
...do you want another game made? xD
paragonpro
Banned
Im going to have to but another console to play this arent i? Ps4 will probably be on its way out by the time part 1 hits
Im putting my Chips in Cross gen too
Anyone who saw KH and FFVII and thought the first one would be here any earlier than 2018 at the absolute earliest were always kidding themselves. KH for 2018 or 2019 and then FFVII the year after or later. It was always known to anyone with any sort of knowledge behind these dev teams and the timing of the announcements
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Wouldn't large staff create quality issues
RPGCrazied
Member
PS5 exclusive? This is never coming out.
Depends of the qa staff and director
What in the world???
I didn't expect this game to come out this year but now I'm not sure it's coming out in 2018 either. I just don't get it, though. You're splitting apart the story into multiple games. Yes, they're adding more content in each one but I just don't get it. I don't get how this can take so long. It's just the first part.
I didn't expect this game to come out this year but now I'm not sure it's coming out in 2018 either. I just don't get it, though. You're splitting apart the story into multiple games. Yes, they're adding more content in each one but I just don't get it. I don't get how this can take so long. It's just the first part.
Zelda was made by a 300 team if that helps.
Indeed. "This was supposed to come out in time for the anniversary" was delusional thinking, full stop.
Caffeine
Member
now thats job security
People seem to forget that this was announced only 2 years ago, and games of this size are often developed for 4-5 years. Even if they were doing work for a year before the announcement, that would mean it would potentially take another year or two to complete (from now). This seems to be in-line with normal dev times for a large-scale product. The fact that they are hiring halfway through doesn't mean anything at all, other than they want more help to get the work done faster.
It was pretty obvious that they weren't that far into development when they announced it. They only showed a CGI trailer. Even the in-engine footage shown later was pretty rough and was thrown together quickly.
It was pretty obvious that they weren't that far into development when they announced it. They only showed a CGI trailer. Even the in-engine footage shown later was pretty rough and was thrown together quickly.
SolidSnakeUS
Member
If anything, at least they aren't fucking around when it comes to doing the remake.
freeofgreed
Member
Goddammit. Why the fuck did they have to give this project to Nomura? I really want KH3 instead of this, and the bigger endeavor this is, the longer KH3 will take to come out. Which sucks because KH3 was suppose to be the conclusion to the story where as even when 7R drops we'll still have to deal with this BS for several more releases. I'm hoping they kick Nomura off at least one of these projects. Either Let Tai Yasue take full control of KH3 or let Kitase direct again (ideal). I have no faith in Nomura like at all to deliver either of these projects before this gen closes.
I wonder if the reasons why it seems they aren't all that far along is because most of their resources have been allocated to other projects and corporate wanted to see how well their big games (namely FFXV) did in relation to their global budget before giving the FFVIIR team more money to work on the game.
Development time is often long, but it also tends to include alot of pre-production fleshing out setting, character, world, art, scenario, story, and a handful of other things before you can start "building" the game itself. Most of that is already done for them since it's a remake game. I know they wanted to make some changes to the flow of the story, but it's surprising that they would spend that much time just ramping up to production if they haven't started yet.
Development time is often long, but it also tends to include alot of pre-production fleshing out setting, character, world, art, scenario, story, and a handful of other things before you can start "building" the game itself. Most of that is already done for them since it's a remake game. I know they wanted to make some changes to the flow of the story, but it's surprising that they would spend that much time just ramping up to production if they haven't started yet.
Square's Japanese development is such an anomaly. Any other division under any other game company would either be shutdown or gutted and restructured from top to bottom. Though this probably wasn't actually in development at the time of announcement so I will cut a little slack there.
afternoon delight
Member
No, not at all! They just meant the PS4 Pro unit while ignoring its simultaneous PS5 release.
Then we should be worried. XV had an awesome and beautiful, but also boring world. And the combat system is not good.
I hope that Kingdom Hearts game hasn't slowed Nomura down on this too much. Just get KH3 out the door for its fans already and go all-in on FF7, Nomura.
Then again, I'm not sure Director Tetsuya Nomura could get a half-empty bag of trash out the door, let alone AAA video games.
Then again, I'm not sure Director Tetsuya Nomura could get a half-empty bag of trash out the door, let alone AAA video games.
A couple of folks here might have have genuine knowledge of the craft. This is GAF, heh. Moreover, it wasn't rocket science to gauge that the game wasn't hitting in 2017. There's always an outside chance, but it was damned unlikely.
LordKasual
Banned
XV had the most fun open world i've played before. Lots of hidden optional dungeons and random giant creatures to fight. Enjoyed the combat system.
FF7 is probably going to be alot more mashy than XV was since it's less grounded in realism, so i'm super hoping that FF7R is like XV.
This game's development has basically no bearing on KHIII's, they are being developed by completely separate studios. And since he is the creative visionary (as Yasue described it) for KHIII rather than the hands on manager of the day to day work in the studio, a large part of Nomura's work for it is probably done now for KHIII. Just chill and wait a bit over 2 weeks, I'm almost certain there will be a KHIII blowout and 2018 release window confirmed at E3. Since they were planning winter announcements but those were obviously pushed back because of XV's delay delaying 2.8 and thus delaying KHIII news to E3. So they've probably got a lot to show for it saved up.
More mashy than XV ? That doesn't sound good at all.
Skellig Gra
Member
I feel shocked.
crimzonflame
Member
FF7's legacy has been tarnished.
LordKasual
Banned
XV isn't a very mashy game
Noctis gets knocked down pretty damn easily, enemies don't.
Just about the only time mashing works is when you're using Armiger
freeofgreed
Member
I hope you're right but I had no faith in those winter announcements being anything more than a couple of screenshots like that Jump Fiesta nonsense. But hopefully we'll see at E3.
Eh that was quite a cynical outlook, even considering this is Square Enix considering they had no problem announcing a Big Hero 6 world with one piece of concept art. They were probably planning announcing a couple worlds at Jump Festa or something. I really think KHIII will go big at E3, maybe playable for press.
StereoVsn
Member
I really enjoyed XV Open World as well as combat. The latter had a lot of options if one started on some aerial and defense customizations. I do wish magic system was thought out better though but even that has some interesting ideas (that needed to be fleshed out more).
What they did need were better sidequests in the Open World side and better towns.
For VIIR I am thinking late 2019 for Episode 1 to coincide with PS5 release. It's pretty crazy and dumb but that's SE for you. How Nomura is allowed to be director still is just puzzling.
freeofgreed
Member
Well that's quite an optimistic outlook lol.
mullet2000
Member
I'd love to read a book one day about how horribly mismanaged Square Enix is as business.
LordGorchnik
Member
I'm going to be 50 before I can play this game again.
Guess I better retire early at 49. Brilliant idea!
Guess I better retire early at 49. Brilliant idea!
AlexFlame116
Member
I'm going to remember this post. Just to hope it comes true.
But if it doesn't DKHF......
I'll be sad.
Ok lets be pessimists, persona 5 took 7 years of development to release in the west, 6 in japan.
FF7 is in the 3rd year of development, so If we Go to take the 7 years of persona, that gives us 4 years to release (2021).
Im thinking in a Full ff7, maybe the episodic thing Was dropped.
FF7 is in the 3rd year of development, so If we Go to take the 7 years of persona, that gives us 4 years to release (2021).
Im thinking in a Full ff7, maybe the episodic thing Was dropped.
At this point I think they're smart enough to avoid FF threads.
HerroRygar
Member
Yeahhhhh...hope you're right. My guess is that KH3 will get another short-ish trailer with "coming soon" and that's about it. Not feeling optimistic about progress on either.