Those dont count as FF games teehee
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Final Fantasy XV - 50 min video
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Those dont count as FF games teehee
Yesssssssssssss.
And I assume we'll get the AC outfits.
Lightning Returns is irrelevant. The others are MMO's.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Doesn't XIII-2 have costumes too?
I honestly took it as an FF staple by now.
I honestly took it as an FF staple by now.
The amount of customization options in LR is significant though. It really shouldn't be ignored.
Honestly, I payed no attention to that game at all.
Still, it isn't something that would've given me confidence that it'd become a series standard. I'm glad that seems to be the case.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
They're all too happy to sell you DLC costumes, it turns out
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Say what you want about LR, I thought the combat in that game was really well done, certainly better than XV's IMO. Note that I'm comparing demos to demos, as I only played the beginning of LR. LR also had holding button to attack shenanigan, but it's offset by 'perfect attacks', which gives more damage for timed button presses. XV could really benefit from something like that. Not to mention LR actually plays quite responsively and don't have a lot of locked animation bogging down combat.
SoulUnison
Banned
I played through LR, like, 1.3 times, and I felt like after you accounted for which garbs had usable stats and which garbs didn't look like a stripper got lost at DisneyLand the amount left over was pretty low. And then a bunch more get ruined by not allowing you to change their colors for some arbitrary reason.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I think its a fine game. Not perfect. I really enjoyed it, and it is indeed an open world FF which has got to count for something ... But it's a very divisive topic.
Also just for sheer marketing reality, I don't blame someone for skipping it altogether. Your selling point is Lightning fucking Again? I groaned when they announced it.
They're all too happy to sell you DLC costumes, it turns out
Par for the course these days tbh.
I believe it.
MissDeviling
Member
A lot of LR's designs were either completely out of character or stuff women wouldn't be caught dead wearing. Lightning felt like a dress-up doll in that game. It's too bad, since I really loved her original outfit in XIII.
Oh didn't actually know that with Japanese voice actors. Makes sense though and I wish that was done over here in the US too. I feel I've seen behind the scenes of some productions that did this with excellent results such as the Legacy of Kain series which has excellent voice acting.
Shame really.
brandonh83
Banned
LR was good. Awesome gameplay, atmosphere, music, art.
SoulUnison
Banned
I played through 90% of the game with the Cocoon Soldier outfit you got from having XIII save data.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
James Scott
Banned
Yeah, magic grenades are pretty clunky. No clue how they thought it was ok.
This game is made by the KH team.
They made a new KH team because the KH2 team has been busy making this for 10 years. All the more disappointing, really.
I feel like the game is going to have tons of problems, but I've seen more than enough to know that it will have multiple amazing high points that should make it worth it. Honestly I'm more excited now than I was before, and looking forward to it.
You've never seen someone wear that to the office on casual Friday? You work with stiffs.
You've never seen someone wear that to the office on casual Friday? You work with stiffs.
The osaka team is the KH team and has been since 2007. The 'team' you speak of that was created from people in the KH2 development project shifted over for project Versus have not been together for years, even before the 15 reboot project began because some of them quit, others were transitioned permanently to other areas in the company, commissioned to do other projects ect.
The people working on 15 are completely different programmers, designers ect. Which makes sense since its been 10 years.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
LR too did magic better. You cast the spells as they consume ATb gauge, you could chain them into combos, no hassle of restocking and worrying about running out of magic when you need them, or having them limit your combat options as Lightning actually had multiple loadouts based on jobs with a lot of command options. It's really like if you turned X-2's combat and put it into a more real-time environment, and make it faster and more exciting.
If XVI really had to be another action rpg, I wouldn't mind Yuji Abe to work on the gameplay again.
If XVI really had to be another action rpg, I wouldn't mind Yuji Abe to work on the gameplay again.
You'd be surprised.There's an amazing amount of depth to be found in LR's customization and its directly in relation to actual gameplay.
LR's battlesystem is probably one of the most sophisticated in the entire series.
Even the quest design in FFXV,as seen in this video, seems reminiscent of LR's.
Its not that irrelevant,actually.Yes the game fails miserably at story department and time management sucks,but its not all bad.
There are also people from the KH2 team working on FFXV, a few of them in lead roles regarding battle, enemy, and level design.
And the annoyance in using magic in FFXV is that when you tap it, it doesn't go to where the enemy is. It goes to where the enemy was at that point when you tapped it, so it's not always reliable for fast moving enemies. That feels like such an easy fix though.
We don't know how magic casting works now. It's been a while since the Platinum Demo. In this gameplay, the person always held and aimed it.
And the annoyance in using magic in FFXV is that when you tap it, it doesn't go to where the enemy is. It goes to where the enemy was at that point when you tapped it, so it's not always reliable for fast moving enemies. That feels like such an easy fix though.
We don't know how magic casting works now. It's been a while since the Platinum Demo. In this gameplay, the person always held and aimed it.
I'm wet. Maybe I'll give LR a chance...
Yuji abe could do wonders once he works with directors other than Toriyama.
Guy has amazing potential.He needs to be back again and work on games other than just XIII.
I am gonna guess this game is made by a mish mash of devs from every department.
But its not going in the direction of KH gameplay.
Its a strange beast.We'll see once it releases.
Sure, but the team that was making Versus in great majority, the "KH team" that was spoken of by Nomura 10 years ago no longer exists, is my point.
It would be impossible for them to exist with the restructuring SE has had over the past decade.
I think the magic in the game will be far more powerful than any magic in LR, especially from the videos we have seen magic being used. The fact you can customize it to do such things as heal your party and dualcast means there has to be some limit for gameplay balance.
Over here Noctis doesn't appear to be throwing a pokeball. Granted, it's a glorified parry/counter, but at least canon-wise Noctis doesn't seem to be shackled to using only pokeballs.
Pretty sure Aranea wasn't even a thing back then. Wasn't the dragoon just a regular enemy? Were those other characters even revealed before the change to xv?
No, she was never said as just a regular enemy. That's something people interpreted on their own.
And those characters are from Versus. Ferrari started working on the game since 2010.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Yeah, having seen Kingsglaive, one spoiler is certainly false (or bad writing):
Ardyn has a line or two in Kingsglaive that make it clear he didn't know about the meaning of the "old wall" in Insomnia. No way he's secretly ancient and/or an old king of Lucis.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
The thing is, I don't need magic to be super powerful, the end all be all, one time solution to the combat. In an action game, I would rather magic be an active component of the gameplay. Let us cast the magic and work them seamlessly into the battles, like LR, KH2, Ys: Oath of Felgana.
The Last One
Member
She's one of the Captains, right?
I guess that that guy using golden armor from the video is also one of the captains.
I guess that that guy using golden armor from the video is also one of the captains.
If XV has a long journey akin to the older games then I won't mind the graphics. Right now we're getting the impression that there won't be much to the story cause we keep seeing the same old places but the E3 trailer shows glimpses of areas that can feature heavy story set pieces.
The Last One
Member
The thing is, they kept showing things from chapter 1 - 3 this whole time. This 50 minutes video was all that we needed to believe that the game definitely has much more.
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Deleted member 20920
Unconfirmed Member
The nature of magic is kind of weird for me right now. If people have watched Kingsglaive,
it doesn't seem like the Kingsglaives were throwing pokeballs but simply have magic coming out of their hands, among other spells. Could this the wild magic or ring magic that hasn't been shown yet?
NoctisVsStar
Member
Seeing the same old places I think it's done on purpose. I feel it's very easy to spoil a RPG game so it's deliberate. However, we do have the case of TPP where everything was shown to us. But who knows? Maybe I'm wrong and you're right.
If you show the audience everything there's no sense of awe or shock. Either way you're screwed. This skepticism of course is due to the fact a good portion doesn't trust Tabata cause frankly he hasn't proven himself yet.
The Last One
Member
Yeah, what they did to TPP was awful. When we finally get the game we already knew basically everything.
NoctisVsStar
Member
We got a butchered game but that's another story. Kojima is masterful because he shows a lot of footage with no context. It's an art..the downside is that we see every single cool moment. So when it happens we just be like " oh " lol
Yeah. I'm willing to bet we've been shown less than 20% of the entire game story.
Remember, people, we have seen NOTHING of Ravus. Not a single scene. And Ideolas? The same. What about the rest of the Summons and their locations/storyline points? Nothing.
Hell, we were JUST revealed of the existence of Loqi. Who knows how many other characters remain hidden?
Regardless of people's positions on this game, just remember: This game is going to be massive.
It made for some of the best game trailers out there. Unfortunately, no one knew at what cost. I hope FFXV is the opposite.
Isn't that XV might be doing?
That kind of sounds like FFXV.
Not really. By "low fantasy" I mean where magic is treated as rare or a superstition within the world.
XV's certainly not ratcheting it up to 100 right out of the gate though so that's a plus.
As long as everyone doesn't end up (FFVIII spoiler)coincidentally from the same orphanage I'm good with that.
¯\_(ツ
I don't understand why this is so controversial.
They were in the same orphanage then went to the same military school garden thingy.
Not that far fetched?
Not that far fetched?
I don't mind the
orphanage plot. But the amnesia stuff felt so forced.
I LOVE VIII, by the way.
I LOVE VIII, by the way.
Going from Point A to Point B, yes.
Going from Point B, where you're
presented with people being basically strangers to each other (Squall vs Zell vs Selfie's introduction vs Irvine's introduction), back to Point A with amnesia being attributed to yet another convenient plot point (GF usage) *should* have worked as an interesting twist. Yet it kinda ended up feeling comical instead.
edit: ok fine, this isn't FF Community Thread. Spoiler tagged.