Baffling reason for automated car control.
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Final Fantasy XV - 50 min video
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Baffling reason for automated car control.
NullKaze
Member
This is the actual reason.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Last time I remember people complaining about a car being in FF. Now they want a full gran turismo experience.
Also outside of his own kingdom he might not be well known. Outside of British royals I couldn't identify another prince in real life myself.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
:'(
Then in the final cutscene it appears again and honks outside the palace.
The guys run outside only to discover it used its last drop of gas to get back! They then all push the car to the nearest gas station.THE END.
Not being able to at least stop on a dime and exit wherever you want is absolutely horrible though. That's the entire point of having your own car.
:'(
Then in the final cutscene it appears again and honks outside the palace.
THE END.
BibleThump
Original Man
Member
Damned if you do, damned if you dont
NullKaze
Member
But that's exactly what Chocobos are for.
The reason why they don't have off-road cars is because then they have to program collisions, behaviour in combat, AI reaction to cars, etc.
Just think of the car as the train and the Chocobos as the horses in this RDR-like open world.
That's not what I'm saying. If it's just an on-rail mount to get from a region to region, fine, be that way, but not being able to stop anywhere along the way to go sightseeing manually or to pick up a quest sounds dumb.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
They should give on road full control. Off road is for foot and chocobo.
:'(
Then in the final cutscene it appears again and honks outside the palace.
THE END.
What if FFXV really is a timeloop except every repetition has Noctis grow older and older
It is a waste of time. The guy's in the interview's right, this is not a key feature of the game. Nobody buys this game to drive around.
LOL indeed.
It's funny because it made me remember how people got their car in Batman last year and the reaction was pretty much "I didn't ask for this, it ruined the game design".
Now they want the full GTA/Forza Horizon experience in a Final Fantasy game....
Some people still haven't realized that a single game can't please everyone, it's absurd to try so hard to bash it whenever something is not like you wanted it to be.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
But this is not true. In that sea coast video the guys stop randomly and go exploring!
So the guy in the other thread lied on the Internet?
I'm the kind of players they're talking about and I completely understand their decision because I'm garbage at driving cars in games. This frustrates me and I don't want any of it in my RPG. I'm genuinely sorry you won't be able to enjoy driving around because of people like me.
Who is asking for this?
You guys aren't acting any better than Original Man right now.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I haven't read but from the videos I've seen you can stop the car anywhere and get down exploring on your foot. I don't know if they changed this in the last couple of months?
CRIMSON-XIII
Neo Member
it looks amazing. the foliage, the draw distance. everything. and itll only get better the next few months with polishing.
That video has an explicit parking spot right at the end which falls in line with what people were saying about only being able to park where the game allows you to.
DraganBlack
Neo Member
it however also states that you can pull over wherever you like (https://youtu.be/Yss4yuuMX6c?t=146)
DarkLordMalik
Member
What thread? You could always stop the car anytime you want. I don't see why we can't?
DarkLordMalik
Member
What am I missing here? He was able to stop the car at any point he wants. It just took some time because the stop state results in a transition to black screen as the guys get out of car? :S
Read point number 3 again. He describes how he drove way past the quest marker he got because he couldn't just stop when it appeared.
Revisiting this, it appears I was mistaken. It's still a glorified counter, but I was under the incorrect assumption that the ball thingoos needed to be thrown (thanks Pokemon GO) but in this little clip is a much closer shot of Noctis pulling out a ball, activating it, and fire is cast at the target area. No throwing involved.
Oops!
DarkLordMalik
Member
I don't even have an idea of what we are discussing anymore, lol.
NoctisVsStar
Member
True lol at least someone posted a spoiler thread for those always wanting to talk about it. And keep us safe.
Maybe read the reply chain? The car being unwieldy and limiting.
The Last One
Member
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
It's your fault! Get him!
DarkLordMalik
Member
Here is what you said.
From what I have read. We can stop anywhere we want, the only constraint is that the car will drive for a while before stopping to the side of the road. But we can practically stop anywhere and go sightseeing along the road, no?
They have some dumb limitations programmed in place but taking control of stopping the car is not one of them. That would be stupid and take the fun away from the road trip aspect.
The other limitation is that the quests cannot be marked when in the car. They could have coded a menu specifically for this, just to get the quests marked, but they haven't. They only allowed map to be displayed when we are in the car. This could be inconvenient in case we want to mark the quest right away but it is not a dealbreaker.
The way the reply you quoted put it, he made it sound like a chore. But it doesn't look like one to me, personally.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Yea I'd kinda enjoy a shot of Noctis doing something like thisIs this guy:
A new version of this one:
?
I still don't like this magic thing :/
not a fan of this ball mechanic thing. Is it still possible to stick your swords in enemies and use that as a catalyst for magic?
The thing is they also made a completely different casual mode where you don't even have to drive, the AI does it for you. So people like you who don't enjoy driving in games don't have to drive in this one. But then they went ahead and casualized the manual driving too so it feels almost as limiting as the fully automated mode. What's the point.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
"Why can't I drive the car" does remind me when FFVII newbies would say "why can't I just walk up and hit a button and attack the enemies directly?".
Isn't this an RPG???
But of course you kind of can more or less directly control the character in XV so I realize it's an imprecise metaphor for this game.
Isn't this an RPG???
But of course you kind of can more or less directly control the character in XV so I realize it's an imprecise metaphor for this game.
Yea I'd kinda enjoy a shot of Noctis doing something like this
not a fan of this ball mechanic thing. Is it still possible to stick your swords in enemies and use that as a catalyst for magic?
There's some fanart like this. Would be nice to see it in the game, though.
NoctisVsStar
Member
PC footage to consoles Kappa ^
They're saving that for the FF8 remake.
Preserving every detail on minor NPCs can't take precedence over making sure the main cast still looks good after making graphical compromises.
APZonerunner
Member
You can stop anywhere, more or less, with the press of a button. The car will find the next appropriate point to pull over under AI control and do so, and it can stop more or less anywhere, or so it at least seems.
My concern when I played the game for 4 hours wasn't with the fact it did this (I think it's fine for what they're trying to do) but with the fact that it takes like 15 seconds to pull over any time you push the button, which is discouraging one from actually doing it. It's just a bit too slow.
I interviewed Tabata at gamescom, by the way... and we have a chat about the car mechanics there. That'll be up sometime this coming week.
DarkLordMalik
Member
The image you used here is from the Xbox One version BTW.How we went from this
to this
is beyond me, but Square better has a good reason for it.
That doesn't sound good. Thanks for clearing it up.
Looking forward to your interview
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Yea fans already did half the work, it's the same kinda thing the dude would do so it's really surprising they haven't made any artwork of that.PSY・S;214445265 said:There's some fanart like this. Would be nice to see it in the game, though.
Downsampled PC footage to consoles being the obvious one. Although that scene takes place in a small room so it kinda makes me wonder why it had to be adjusted that much.How we went from this
to this
is beyond me, but Square better has a good reason for it.
I think people are gonna be disappointed when the visual differences between the two turn out to not be as big as they imagine. PS4 version won't end up looking a whole gen ahead or anything.