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Final Fantasy XV Famitsu Info: Tabata (Type-0) codirector, considering PC, apps, more
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Ghost_Protocol
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Oh that's definitely the case.
The best thing about all this is that Nomura and Tabata are probably not going to work on FFXVI.
Toriyama: see you in 2016
You really want this franchise burned to the ground don't you
The best thing about all this is that Nomura and Tabata are probably not going to work on FFXVI.
Toriyama: see you in 2016
i had to read that sentence twice to believe
The best thing about all this is that Nomura and Tabata are probably not going to work on FFXVI.
Toriyama: see you in 2016
encephalon
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Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I think his track record (X-2, Revenant Wings, XIII, XIII-2, LR, FFXVI) is far better than many other directors celebrated here (like Tabata) and currently working on other projects. The man just needs a better writer than Watanabe. That's all. He's also one of the few capable directors in there able to develop games at a decent pace. He's a resource S-E should keep investing into. Kitase himself is also very proud of him and the man here chooses alot. Hashimoto's games are probably going to be directed by other men, but Kitase already got his pupil for present and future.
Black Republican
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PC version would be pretty cool
encephalon
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eyeball_kid
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The art direction looks really great this time around. I'm actually moderately interested in a FF game for the first time since they got rid of a turn-based battle option. It looks more like Ninja Gaiden with a whole party and RPG elements. I still think FF should only be turn-based, but aside from the palpable bromance of the seven kingdoms this looks like an actually enjoyable Final Fantasy game.
With X-2 the current best FF game to grace existence (until XV is out) and Lightning being the shittiest you can see why I have to disagree now. He just isn't what he used to be
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
That's a Tabata game written by M.Toriyama.
encephalon
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The problem with the game lies here.
PshycoNinja
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That's why Kitase isn't the Final Fantasy Brand Producer/Director anymore.
Also all those games you listed for Toriyama were all terrible. The man needs to go away for a long time. The execs at SE won't have it anymore with him. They have seen the damage he has done.
OT: Final Fantasy XV I think for the first time in a long time for this series is going to give FFVII a run for its money. I truly believe that. I think with this battle system and new world this will bring back a lot of the old fans and bring in a lot of new ones.
I literally have friends who are telling me they will try out the series now because its not turn based.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Unless they're hiring new staff, there's no one else able to work on a large-scale projects right now. Nomura is super busy with XV and KHIII, so he's Tabata (with XV and probably some portable project hinted before). Ito doesn't exist, I expect him leaving S-E in this year or the next. Motomu Toriyama has been able along six years to release 3 successfull games one after the other, showing he can manage to develop big games under stricted rulez by the producers (1,5/2 yrs max per dev. ecc.). Nomura's last game will have 7 yrs of development on its shoulders when coming out, getting all the good reception we expect from media and gamers but generating VERY little profits because of the stretched development. FFXV's not going to be the "norm" for S-E after all is said and done. Toriyama's working schedule IS the future hinted by the new president, and because he is able to work quite-well under certain conditions (conditions that killed Matsuno and Itou before him – and maybe will kill Nomura too), I doubt S-E stops considering him a resource. Put away XIII world, give him a new staff and budget, and we'll see what he can do by starting anew with FFXVI
I love the man. If Mr. T. didn't exist, at this time I had only one bugged FF14 to play and a remake of it. A disaster. I can't even imagine the pressure he had on his team being forced on farming out sequels he didn't even planned to make to begin with. And getting all the blame too because of this.
encephalon
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If Mr. T didn't exist, you would just be playing different versions of the FFXIII trilogy.
funny how Toriyama can be blamed endlessly for the 3rd Bday but not Tabata...lol
Actually I am fully confident Toriyama can put out a great FFXVI.Its through his XIII trilogy that they learned about HD development and he stressed improving efficiency in many talks he gave about the development of lightning saga. Also Toriyama admitted many times that mistakes were made .Linearity and "Interactive Movie" were Kitase's concepts.
He is not all bad guys.
Actually I am fully confident Toriyama can put out a great FFXVI.Its through his XIII trilogy that they learned about HD development and he stressed improving efficiency in many talks he gave about the development of lightning saga. Also Toriyama admitted many times that mistakes were made .Linearity and "Interactive Movie" were Kitase's concepts.
He is not all bad guys.
I'm conflicted about Tabata working on this. On one hand, I'm happy because I liked Crisis Core and I really enjoyed Type--0 until the language barrier made me quit. He'll be a great asset, I believe. On the other hand, I wanted him to work on Type-1 or whatever.
It's good to know you can choose party members at will. That was my main concern seeing the hectic battles.
I've been saying that I'll miss the ATB system, but I guess Bravely Default's TB battles will do.
It's good to know you can choose party members at will. That was my main concern seeing the hectic battles.
I've been saying that I'll miss the ATB system, but I guess Bravely Default's TB battles will do.
I'm pretty sure FFXVI is already in some stage of development, which means it's not very likely Toriyama has anything to do with it since he should have been way too busy finishing Lightning Returns within the last 1+ years.The best thing about all this is that Nomura and Tabata are probably not going to work on FFXVI.
Toriyama: see you in 2016
Besides, after the FFXIII saga, I'm not sure if the new boss of SQEX wants Toriyama to have anything to do with any mainline FF game ever again.
Do remember that Tabata is "only" co-directing this, he could very well have a project of his own under way as well. I mean, Nomura is co-directing both XV and KHIII and still has time to have some creative role in other games, Tabata should be able to handle a couple of games when he's not even fully responsible for one of them.
encephalon
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Propositions for Final Fantasy VII were made during VI's development, were they not? (xenogears)
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
If anything I think he is the man most fitting with S-E's latest ambitions (farming out games more fast with less budget and more marketing). He "played" perfectly from 2010 following this plan with success, so why not.
PshycoNinja
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What.... are you?
It's like... as if.... you actively want people to keep hating Final Fantasy....
encephalon
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On one hand, you're right. Tabata's name is ultimately on a game with an abhorrent plot. On the other, who knows what the political situation was like in Square. 3rd Birthday looks to at least have had some major plot revisions already, with an entirely different PSP build (different character models) showing
Kyle beating up Aya and walking into flames
Toriyama's actual ideas are bad.
Toriyama probably knows a lot more about HD development than Nomura and Tabata. He gathered a lot of experience from XIII trio , and it counts.
Working on XV doesn't mean he can't be working on the pre-production of other stuff in the pipeline though. Don't forget, at one point he was working on KH Coded, The 3rd Birthday, and FF Type-0 at the same time. It probably does mean that the next game he directs won't ramp up on production until XV is done, just like Type-0 didn't move rapidly until T3B was done. But I think he probably has other stuff lined up as well.
MagicWithEarvin
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Toriyama's friend
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I like his games and I like the way he directed his own teams in creating games (decent games, sometimes good, sometimes great) in a decent time-frame. He's also a very humble person that always considers fans' reception and changes his games on the go trying to correct his mistakes. He is just a VERY BAD writer. We know the problem though, S-E itself lacks decent writers and the only decent one they got (Nojima) when XIII started was busy with other projects. Watanabe was the only available. Give him a better writer and I'm sure he can create even better games.
I trust him and his team more than anyone else in there for now.
Sure, and there are a lot of people at SQEX (like Ito, for example) who have seemingly done nothing in the last few years, so I'd presume those are the ones who have been at work with new projects that should be out within the next 2-3 years, not the one who is trying to rush out a big FF game in 1,5 years and has somewhat damaged FF's reputation for the last 4 years.
Sentenza
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I don't mind that the PC version of Dark Souls is the definitive (with mods, but yes, it stands to last the longest going forward). What I mind is the PC elitists putting down the PS360 fanbases
The same will apply to FFXV - Elitists that crap on the console fanbases that made the series as popular as it is can go screw themselves. The game itself being on PC I have no problem with and look forward to a larger FF fanbase.
Are you going to drag this pointless rant against those fictional elitists who (at least in your mind) are taking the forum by siege and oppressing your freedom for many other posts?
Because this strikes me as an attempt to derailing the thread.
Beside... "GRRR, THEY SHOULD DIE IN A FIRE!". Seriously? Jesus Christ, grow up.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Itou is probably like Matsuno, refusing working on big projects right now. I don't think he'll survive the "new" S-E and CEO.
3rd Birthday was not a bad action/shooter RPG (it was actually pretty good, although somewhat short and not without flaws), considering its rushed production (which is Tabata's territory, making sure it's fun to play), it was just horribly written (which is Toriyama's role in the production).
HylianScribe
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I just want to see what was shown in Agni's Philosophy utilized in a future game, hopefully Final Fantasy XVI. I know they said Luminous Engine is being used for Final Fantasy XIV now, but I'm talking more about the aesthetic. The part where Agni casts magic and it hurts her, that concept seems really appealing -- a consequence for using magic throughout the game. Also finding items in the immediate area and using them for alchemy.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
There's no announced game for now running on the Luminous Engine (edit. maybe KHIII). FFXIV and LR uses some lighting aspects of it, while FFXV partially uses more of it but it's still running on the old modified PS3 engine mixed with new elements from LE. FFXVI by Toriyama is probably going to be the first FF completely using it.
Pretty sure a director can have a major effect on a game's story. You never know, maybe Tabata had to do with the how the story was implemented in the game.He is responsible for the entire game afterall not just gameplay.
encephalon
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The thing about the game is for the the terrible story that it had, it probably had the best direction it possibly could have. Up until the nonsense plot was revealed, the terrible plot didn't give way to awful cutscenes. They're pretty good.
In the past he's said he's involved in some big project that won't be revealed in a while, so I doubt he has anything against big productions (I mean, he's been involved with the biggest & most ambitious FFs so far on their respective consoles). Unless that project is one of the cancelled ones, then he could very well have been working on FFXVI for quite a while now, which is simply not being revealed because of what has been happening with the franchise in recent years (as in, they need to get at least LR & XIV 2.0 out of the way and focus on finishing XV ASAP for a while before they reveal any future developments of the series).
not trying to blame tabata for the record. I am actually really excited for his part in XV.
I know he's most probably working on other projects. It wouldn't surprise me if he's working on another portable game and has some say about what is going on with KH3. He's proven that he can handle the pressure, in my opinion.
We know because there are many detailed interviews for the game where the various staff have all shared what their contributions to the game are and who was responsible for what. Tabata definitely had a HUGE influence on the story and world concept for Type-0. He didn't have that much to do with the story specifics in The 3rd Birthday. Toriyama was specifically the scenario director on that project, not just a writer. He was leading the entire team of writers on the game.
Nah, he probably has nothing to do with KH3.
lol
Shadow Ranger
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I wouldn't be surrpised with PC for some reason. It just seems like a natural thing to do, especially with someone like Kojima also considering PC. If it does release on PC then I guess I'll need to start saving for an upgrade!
I think I trust to Naoki Yoshida much more than Toriyama, he seems also more capable than him. All Toriyama's games as director had awful stories in my opinion, bring him whatever writer it might not change, it seems that he likes to also be accredited for being the Scenario writer. If I was bad at writing scenarios then I wouldn't want to step into that territory. I wouldn't mind anyone Directing Final Fantasy XVI as long as its not Toriyama.
The best thing about all this is that Nomura and Tabata are probably not going to work on FFXVI.
Toriyama: see you in 2016
I cannot even see how in any number of other universes this is good news.