http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fantasy-xv-no-plans-dlc-main-game/
He also talked about this at the fan event at gamescom last week:
He also talked about this at the fan event at gamescom last week:
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Final Fantasy XV: No Plans to Integrate DLC Episodes into the Main Game
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Drillary Clinton
Banned
What the fuck
NeOak
Member
That was being saved for the Complete Edition.
Hispanic! At the Disco
Member
You'd be surprised how often devs (japanese devs usually) give this response to obvious sounding things.
I remember when someone asked Aunoma how they'd work multiple items used in dungeons into Zelda Wii U (now botw) like the other 3D zeldas, opposed to using just one new item per dungeon like ALBW. He basically said they never thought of usingle multiple tools to solve puzzles.
"Fixing the game" has always been bullshit. Always.
Drillary Clinton
Banned
Don't get me wrong I like the game it's just such a clusterfuck and they're just winging it.
AgentLampshade
Member
A shame. I imagine it kills immersion to quit back to a menu to access them.
I figured that would be the case, but yeah... it's disappointing. I've been waiting to play the episodes when I do a replay because I would much rather play them as I go through the story to make the experience as cohesive as possible. Having to exit the game when a character leaves the party instead of giving an in-game option to play through their episode is annoying.
I'm usually positive to FFXV news but this is disappointing
Game would really benefit from some of the gaemplay additions in the DLCs, specially comrades
You have a prompt to play them when you reach their point during normal gameplay, no need to jump back to the main menu
Game would really benefit from some of the gaemplay additions in the DLCs, specially comrades
You have a prompt to play them when you reach their point during normal gameplay, no need to jump back to the main menu
Someone should make a guide as to when to abandon the main game for these DLCs. Play it like RE6 in a chronological order.
Someone should make a guide as to when to abandon the main game for these DLCs. Play it like RE6 in a chronological order.
If you play the game it's very clear when they happen.
The episodes are designed to be standalone.
They just never had any intention to "fix it" like people hoped for. And of curse they didn't; the issues the game has are structural and fundamental in a way that you can't simply patch the game to throw them in and make it better. They're not adding abilities to Overwatch characters here.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
I dont know what some of you mean when you say incorporate it into the main game?
If you mean an in game prompt asking if you want to play Episode Gladilous when it becomes available so you dont have to quit to the menu, then sure.
If you mean an in game prompt asking if you want to play Episode Gladilous when it becomes available so you dont have to quit to the menu, then sure.
I think even that would be a bit shit in a GOTY version or whatever. If you are coming to it fresh you mightn't realize that pressing yes is going to load you up into a separate 2 hour campaign intended to be played after you've finished the campaign.
The problem with incorporating them right now, as far as I'm aware, is that there are some parts of them that assume you've already beaten the game.
For example, in Prompto's, during the credits it shows scenes that occur in the main game in a later chapter to "bridge" the main game and the DLC. If it forced you into Prompto's DLC and they didn't remove that, you'd be seeing late Chapter 13? clips and then, assumedly, the game would have to put you back at Chapter 12 or whatever where it left off.
The solution here would be to simply remove the credits (or the story scenes that play during them) but that's technically more work than simply loading in the DLC wholesale as it's own chapter or sub-chapter.
This doesn't absolve the "oh good idea, I've never heard of this before" answer in the OP, though. It reminds me of a lot of post-ARR interviews with Yoshi-P where well known features in other MMO's are brought up as improvements to FFXIV and he seems almost startled and amazed that the interviewers come up with such novel ideas.
For example, in Prompto's, during the credits it shows scenes that occur in the main game in a later chapter to "bridge" the main game and the DLC. If it forced you into Prompto's DLC and they didn't remove that, you'd be seeing late Chapter 13? clips and then, assumedly, the game would have to put you back at Chapter 12 or whatever where it left off.
The solution here would be to simply remove the credits (or the story scenes that play during them) but that's technically more work than simply loading in the DLC wholesale as it's own chapter or sub-chapter.
This doesn't absolve the "oh good idea, I've never heard of this before" answer in the OP, though. It reminds me of a lot of post-ARR interviews with Yoshi-P where well known features in other MMO's are brought up as improvements to FFXIV and he seems almost startled and amazed that the interviewers come up with such novel ideas.
Jesus. He hasn't even considered it yet? I assumed it was his plan all along.
Episode Prompto needs to be a part of the main game for the sake of pacing and character development. Episode Gladiolus can easily be a part of Chapter 7. If the Episode Ignis spoilers are true, then it definitely needs to be a part of Chapter 10.
At least modders will be able to do this. And remove the Ifrit introduction and replace it with the introduction from Kingsglaive.
Episode Prompto needs to be a part of the main game for the sake of pacing and character development. Episode Gladiolus can easily be a part of Chapter 7. If the Episode Ignis spoilers are true, then it definitely needs to be a part of Chapter 10.
At least modders will be able to do this. And remove the Ifrit introduction and replace it with the introduction from Kingsglaive.
God that all sounds better.
Totally expect the PC version to do this now, especially as it will have Workshop support.
denpanosekai
Member
I've played every other offline FF to date and I own FFXV but I'm still not sure if it's the right time to start playing it. I'm gonna hold off another year and beat Nier, Kiwami and WoFF first...
edgefusion
Member
Good. They're absolute garbage and are better off ignored entirely. Some of the worst gameplay the series has ever seen.
The main game isn't really designed for that. None of them can move and fight like Noctis.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
Wouldn't this result in a pacing/structure problem?
Pretty sure new players wouldn't appreciate being completely taken away from the main game to a completely new character's mini episode.
Many were pretty pissed off being forced to play those Rachel sections in Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Same thing with Deus Ex and The Missing Link DLC when the director's cut released. It's usually never good to just shove in additional content into the main story.
Pretty sure new players wouldn't appreciate being completely taken away from the main game to a completely new character's mini episode.
Many were pretty pissed off being forced to play those Rachel sections in Ninja Gaiden Sigma. Same thing with Deus Ex and The Missing Link DLC when the director's cut released. It's usually never good to just shove in additional content into the main story.
Why are people going crazy over this?
Actually play the DLC and you'll realise it would murder the pacing if incorporated into the main game. Episode Prompto in particular dumps you into a mini-open world that can take hours if you so choose.
It's absolutely the right decision having it as a selection in the main menu.
This.
Actually play the DLC and you'll realise it would murder the pacing if incorporated into the main game. Episode Prompto in particular dumps you into a mini-open world that can take hours if you so choose.
It's absolutely the right decision having it as a selection in the main menu.
This.
people are more annoyed that the main game's structural flaws are so pervasive, even incorperating the content that would flesh out the story(and some would argue should have been in the main story to actually make it more complete to begin with) would be impossible with how its set up.
LongDongJunon
Member
NoctisVsStar
Member
Pc mods will fix this.
My main problem with the later chapters is that the story races to the finish line, so this sounds like it would be an improvement on the pacing to me. But obviously everyone has their own preferences when it comes to pacing.
Or it could be an option when you start the game to have them integrated. Recommend it for experienced players only, hell, call it NG+ or something.
I'd very much appreciate the option being available, along with an actual incorporation of CH13v2.
Well, honestly those dlc wouldn't even fit so well, leaving holes behind them. Like:
SE is the only software house capable of creating dlcs to fill some gaps and leaving at the same time more holes behind than before.
- how Gladio ended up in the central? It's not explained in the dlc at all
- when Prompto felt off the train...well, where did he find the new suit? I mean, he was on the train, but when the dlc starts he wears a new outfit, did he wander to a shop to buy it,
than ventured forth in the sky? In the end of the dlc, why did he get prisoned? It's not explained
- when Prompto felt off the train...well, where did he find the new suit? I mean, he was on the train, but when the dlc starts he wears a new outfit, did he wander to a shop to buy it,
than ventured forth in the sky? In the end of the dlc, why did he get prisoned? It's not explained
SE is the only software house capable of creating dlcs to fill some gaps and leaving at the same time more holes behind than before.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Mannn the XV team are so lost like they dont know what to do.
R3birthFl4me
Neo Member
I would be lost too if I was given a project that doesn't belong to me and didn't came out of my own ideas and vision.
Final Fantasy VI already did it
Those aren't plot holes.
Gladio can travel. Prompto could've easily stolen a coat from a civilian.
The real plot hole is Prompto finding out he's from Niflheim, which is filled by the Episode Prompto DLC ... but should be a part of the main game.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Oh no, these things that were never meant to be in the main game and specifically designed to be their own thing arent in the main game!
Good grief people.
You should spoiler-tag that.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Uhhhhhhh dude if you read the interview it sounds like the answers are made up.
AuthenticM
Member
It's probably for the best, as it would really mess with the pacing otherwise.
RecRoulette
Member
That's fine. FFXV tells a very deliberately paced story and that stuff would just throw it off.
AuthenticM
Member
lol I almost wrote these exact two examples
Demoskinos
Member
Its... square. This should come to no surprise tbh.