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Fire Emblem If to feature Base Building mode and head rubbing mode

Hmm there was a bunch of incest in FE4 iirc, and in FE 8(SS) the two main lords which brother and sister could have gotten married together if you S-ranked them.
 
You know, I was shitting on Kozaki throughout the whole thread and I apologize for that because I actually don't hate his designs in the least (except Nowi. fuck Nowi). I absolutely agree that he improved since Awakening. No toilet armor so far and no heart shaped belts. Along with Marx and Gunter, I especially love how Mikoto, Cyrus, Suzukaze, and Elfie look. Oh, and this guy:

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Toilet armor is all on the art director and not on Kozaki (he has stated that it was mandate from the director in a couple of interviews).
 
Hmm there was a bunch of incest in FE4 iirc, and in FE 8(SS) the two main lords which brother and sister could have gotten married together if you S-ranked them.

FE4 I think is the only explicit (not that explicit) example. FE8 doesn't go past vague, noncommittal hintting
 
Hmm there was a bunch of incest in FE4 iirc, and in FE 8(SS) the two main lords which brother and sister could have gotten married together if you S-ranked them.

FE4 has one case of brother sister incest where the two parties were not aware of this(and it is a very bad thing, the two of them were manipulated by a cult, as both siblings had the blood of a dark god in them, then the kid ends up murdering the mother). There are also some cousin pairs in second gen depending on who was paired in first gen. (like Awakening)

Sigh, no, Ephraim and Eirika do not get married in FE8. In any version of the game. (...S ranks don't even exist in GBA FE)
 
Sigh, no, Ephraim and Eirika do not get married in FE8. In any version of the game.
Oh just looked it up, and apparently it was just lies spread around about the Japanese version. But some people are saying it was implied in the Japanese version. Dunno which one is true. lol
I meant A-rank then, it's been a while since I last played the GBA/GC games.
 
FE4 has one case of brother sister incest where the two parties were not aware of this. There are also some cousin pairs in second gen depending on who was paired in first gen. (like Awakening)

Sigh, no, Ephraim and Eirika do not get married in FE8. In any version of the game.

Raquesis-Eldigan ... and um Seliph-Julia also but neither of those are acted upon.
 
Raquesis-Eldigan ... and um Seliph-Julia also but that never gets acted upon.

If I recall, Seliph/Julia was originally going to be a set pair, I think some dev notes said this? (In the final game they have like, 50 love points under the marriage threshold, too. Their love growth is negative, however. I always imagined it as them falling out of love after Seliph realizes that they're bro/sis lol)
 
Well there were a lot of hearts here in the red velvet room with a bed for two:

Suzukaze, one of the ones there with a heart, is a dude though, and I doubt this game has same sex romance. Pretty sure that is just raising relationship in general.
 
FE got nothing on Crusader King.

(Not my picture btw, found on reddit)

I'll remove the pic if it is NSFW or wrong to be posted here.

Whoa, I'm having a hard time understanding this.

Have a FE4 family tree, while we're on that. No amazingly glaring issues like that one, but look at Diadora and Arvis' parents.

(I like how the already inbred Julius is going to marry a distant cousin, Ishtar)
 
CK2 is the world's greatest medieval soap opera simulator. It's amazing.

Agreed, the game is amazing.

Whoa, I'm having a hard time understanding this.

Have a FE4 family tree, while we're on that. No amazingly glaring issues like that one, but look at Diadora and Arvis' parents.


(I like how the already inbred Julius is going to marry a distant cousin, Ishtar)

Wow, never knew that existed. Thanks for the picture, that reminds me I should replay the older games.
 
Suzukaze, one of the ones there with a heart, is a dude though, and I doubt this game has same sex romance. Pretty sure that is just raising relationship in general.
I don't mind if they drop relationships as a whole. That said if it did have them but don't have Same sex relationships I'd have to skip it because I can't stand when developers do this with an avatar character.
 
I wasn't a big fan of how Awakening was 80% lousy romance (and also tied to the core of the game). Hoping that there's a little bit more variety in content - other sorts of character development or even lore/world building that other games threw into the mix.

I hope for a lot more same-sex supports than Awakening.
 
Do we know yet if this game is connected to Awakening storywise, or are those characters just showing up because of amiibos? I read somewhere else that the waifu amie is a Hoshido version thing too, is that confirmed? So many questions...

The "My Castle" (probably renamed in the localized version, since they didn't go with "My Unit" for the custom character) is for both routes. Some people just assumed that it was Hoshido only since some design elements seem specifically Eastern.

Characters so far are only showing up due to Amiibo, no other explanation. The developers said that this would be a different world from previous games. Awakening had a Otherworld Gate for the DLC content that might play some role here again, but nothing about that has been mentioned so far.

However, there's also a character very similar to Severa who appeared in the newest trailer called Luna. She has a quote about the avatar resembling someone she knows, which might indicate that she's really Severa in some way and knows about Awakening's avatar (like how characters from Shadow Dragon/New Mystery in Awakening's DLC often compared Robin with Kris, the previous avatar).
However, it might just be a coincidence/reference, and the person she's mentioning might just be the other player's avatar (since the scene with her in the trailer is with the avatar vising another castle) - however, the other characters don't seem to have similar quotes to the visiting avatar.

There are also (recruitable?) generic characters with the same (Japanese) names as the Deadlords/Dark Warlords from FE 4/5/13.

also couldn't you marry cousins together in Awakening?

You got "companions" listed rather than married, but if you moved them to shinning tiles you'd still get lover's quotes.
 
You can accidentally walk into the onsen and see a female character in her bikini? No doubt this is getting censored in America lol. If they went and censored Tharja, they'll definitely patch up some stuff in the game. The build your own base thing looks awesome, instead of 100, I'll spend 200 hours on the game!

Time Stamp on it
 
Eh, I'll take toilet armor over Camilla's battle thong and whatever Charlotte is wearing.

The face rubbing thing doesn't bother me, it seems like it's gonna be restricted to whoever you get S rank with. It'd be weird to just start piching everyone's cheek. Kinda funny though.

The hot spring thing wouldn't bother me if not for the whole accidental peeping bullshit that inevitably pops up. Otherwise I don't mind seeing conversations while the characters take a soak. But there will no doubt be peeping and girls groping each others' boobs and other dumb shit.

Some charcter designs look awesome, like that big buff dark skinned guy someone posted. But too many of the females look designed to have that "kawaii" petite cherubic face, teeny-tiny nose highpitched voice, bland look. The two little sisters, Suzuhana (the Sumia ripoff), the two maids, the Severa clone, Charlotte (bad Miriel/Tharja ripoff), etc.
 
You got "companions" listed rather than married, but if you moved them to shinning tiles you'd still get lover's quotes.

Just elaborating, this was added by the localization. In Japanese they were still listed as husband wife.

(Also, 3rd gen Morgan marrying their aunt/uncle bugs out the labeling lol) (Example, Lucina mothered Morgan marrying Chrom fathered Brady, who is Lucina's brother)
 
The "My Castle" (probably renamed in the localized version, since they didn't go with "My Unit" for the custom character) is for both routes. Some people just assumed that it was Hoshido only since some design elements seem specifically Eastern.

Characters so far are only showing up due to Amiibo. Awakening had a Otherworld Gate for the DLC content that might play some role here again, but nothing about that has been mentioned so far.

There's also a character very similar to Severa who appeared in the newest trailer called Luna. She has a quote about the avatar resembling someone she knows, which might indicate that she's really Severa in some way and knows about Awakening's avatar (like how characters from Shadow Dragon/New Mystery in Awakening's DLC often compared Robin with Kris, the previous avatar).

Aren't there dlc characters from the card game as well?

As for Severa, she was named Selena in Japan, and both Selena/Luna have very obvious moon connections (and Severa could never get that red hair in Awakening even though it's her hair in the official art).
 
I don't care how much I hate amiibo-locked content, but literally the easiest way in the world for Nintendo to win my money, THE EASIEST, is to make Captain Falcon unlockable through amiibos.

...Well he does have a bit of fire emblem history thanks to that smash 4 reveal trailer. I'd be completely ok with this especially with falcon punch as his exclusive skill. :D
 
Aren't there dlc characters from the card game as well?

As for Severa, she was named Selena in Japan, and both Selena/Luna have very obvious moon connections (and Severa could never get that red hair in Awakening even though it's her hair in the official art).

Yep, there's prince Marth, masked Lucina and Pegasus Knight Minerva from a tie in with the card game, so we're likely getting more DLC characters. We know nothing about how they're implemented/explained in game though, just like the Amiibo ones. Well, we at least know that the Amiibo ones actually talk even after joining the party this time, unlike the DLC characters from Awakening.
 
...Well he does have a bit of fire emblem history thanks to that smash 4 reveal trailer. I'd be completely ok with this especially with falcon punch as his exclusive skill. :D
I would have to track down a Captain Falcon amiibo if this was the case. What class would he be anyway? "Captain Falcon" seems like a likely class. Fights unarmed, huge Speed and Strength growths. So, an unarmed Myrmidon, basically.

Actually, other than Radiant Dawn's Laguz getting attacked on the Enemy Phase, has Fire Emblem ever had bare-hand fighters in it?
 
Hey! At least in here you can also rub guys' face, so you can't say that Fire Emblem is not equal opportunity pandering machine, lol.

God I am SO gonna buy this game.
 
That's very possible. A lot of supports in previous games aren't romance. (I want to say the vast majority, but I don't actually have stats to back that up)

Was bored so...

Out of ~114 possible support convo combinations, there are ~26 pairings that result in a romantic ending (including Pent/Louise who get a paired ending no matter what). If you want to add Lyn/Florina and Raven/Lucius (does anyone seriously ship Marcus/Merlinus? :P) that pushes it up to ~28. So like... 25% of the support combinations in FE7 were romantic by nature.

I thiiiiiink FE8 might have had more but I'm fairly sure FE9 had less.

Now Awakening gets complicated because of the Avatar and all the possible sibling stuff. Ignoring anything related to the Avatar and assuming all children characters are from different parent pairs, that would give us ~240 possible support convo combinations (including one generic parent/child convo for each child) with ~170 having romantic endings. That's like... 70%.

I'm fairly sure my numbers are reeeellllatively in the ballpark but if anyone wants to point out any dumb errors I might have made then feel free haha.

Also fairly sure no one really cares about this but me lol
 
I don't think so.
Interesting, really. The barehanded monk who can take on an army on his own is such a classic cliche that's it's amazing that Fire Emblem hasn't even had one yet. I suppose balance issues with a class totally sidestepping wepaon durability would have been an issue. But for If, it's no longer an issue.

Hm, I kind of want a barehanded fighter now. Captain Falcon or not.
 
Interesting, really. The barehanded monk who can take on an army on his own is such a classic cliche that's it's amazing that Fire Emblem hasn't even had one yet. I suppose balance issues with a class totally sidestepping wepaon durability would have been an issue. But for If, it's no longer an issue.

They could always give knuckles to that class. Anyway, I think a class like that hasn't appeared because generally the only oriental influence in class design was the myrmidon/swordmaster class. So, there was no space for a martial artist archetype. IF is the first time we get an entire set of classes just designed for a Japanese inspired country.

I guess fits or knuckles could be considered hidden weapons for the new weapon triangle if they felt like adding something like that...
 
They could always give knuckles to that class. Anyway, I think a class like that hasn't appeared because generally the only oriental influence in class design was the myrmidon/swordmaster class. So, there was no space for a martial artist archetype. IF is the first time we get an entire set of classes just designed for a Japanese inspired country. I guess they could be considered hidden weapons for the new weapon triangle if they felt like adding something like that...

I always thought they didn't know where to put it in the triangle as well.
 
The rubbing fascination is weird.

In Western games we skip the bullshit and just let our characters fuuuuck.
 
This.
Is.
Amazing.

This is truly the game to rule them all. What an age we live in. Pretty sure I'll be done with video games after this one.
 
Nintendo should start making light novels on the FE series. Its looking like it has a tremendous amount of potential with its good art and great storytelling to be a blockbuster in Japan and all over the world.
 
Do you remember when people outside of the hentai basement rightly made fun of this witch-touching crap? Pepperidge Farm remembers. I guess if Fire Emblem is now for hikikomori it saves me some cash, but Christ, how embarrassing for us all.
 
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