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First Baldur's Gate 3 PS5 Impressions - "No Stable 60FPS - Performance vs Quality Mode"
- Thread starter adamsapple
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
TL;DR
- Quality mode: 1440p, targets 30 FPS
- Performance mode: Also looks 1440p but targets 60 FPS
- Quality mode: 30 FPS, can drop below target.
- Performance mode: Lots of drops, can drop below 30 as well. Has lots of screen tearing.
- VRR fixes tearing as long as the game is in VRR range
- Visual quality between Quality and Performance looks same.
- Load times: Fast travel took 43~ seconds.
- Quality mode: 1440p, targets 30 FPS
- Performance mode: Also looks 1440p but targets 60 FPS
- Quality mode: 30 FPS, can drop below target.
- Performance mode: Lots of drops, can drop below 30 as well. Has lots of screen tearing.
- VRR fixes tearing as long as the game is in VRR range
- Visual quality between Quality and Performance looks same.
- Load times: Fast travel took 43~ seconds.
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GHG
Member
Looks like this needs work. Either that or pro consoles.
adamsapple
did you happen to post threads for this guys coverage of Starfield, particularly the SDR/HDR stuff? Or did I miss it?
adamsapple
did you happen to post threads for this guys coverage of Starfield, particularly the SDR/HDR stuff? Or did I miss it?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Looks like this needs work. Either that or pro consoles.
No, don't really follow this channel but this is one of the first impressions for the PS5 version of the game anywhere.
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GHG
Member
Oh ok, interesting. His other videos might be worth a revisit for you then.
bender
What time is it?
This has to be one of the worst performers for a PS5 native app, no?
Lagspike_exe
Member
By far across any PS5 game I ever played. I'm pretty sure there were games I played on PS4 Pro with faster loading.
In reality, the PS5 port is a mess. This game doesn't look nearly as good as many PS4 games, that run much better. Great game, but poor technical execution.
Grildon Tundy
Member
Wonder why load times are so long when I have a m.2 SSD in my PC and fast travel between locations in the same map took ~3-5 seconds. Loading between areas took about 29 or so.
Act III is going to cripple the PS5
Act III is going to cripple the PS5
Zuzu
Member
Here's another video. He says that performance mode is a upscaled from a native resolution of 1080p. PS5 can't deliver a solid 60fps. Most of the time it's between 40-50fps. Performance in Act 3 runs like rubbish and is around 30fps in performance mode. Larian says they're aware of it and are working on a fix (I'm getting really tired of hearing stuff like this honestly). I'm disappointed in this port. I'll probably wait to see if the Series X version fares a little better before choosing which console to play it on.
TheGodfather07
Member
43 seconds to load? That feels like an eternity on current gen.
Del_X
Member
The game is decently CPU heavy so I doubt it will be a locked 30 on the series consoles. Maybe the stuff the MS engineers helped them with will help it be a bit more stable but I don’t see it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the PS5 pro struggles to get 60.
Zuzu
Member
It suggests to me that it's a badly optimised port. I might be wrong, but it's disappointing.
Lagspike_exe
Member
It's CPU heavy because the engine is terrible. There are much more CPU and GPU demanding games out there that run much better than this. This should be 4K 60 FPS easily on PS5.
Zuzu
Member
I think you'll be right. I'll probably have to play this on my 1080p monitor so it's best that I get the Xbox version (if it's decent) because it supports freesync with the monitor. I was hoping that it would be 1440p base resolution in performance mode with better performance that wouldn't fall out of the VRR window on PS5. Then I could've played it on my Oled. But looks like I'll have to wait until the Series X version. Oh well, at least it also has quick resume which might help playing this game more convenient.
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Sleepwalker
Member
This game was always a bad idea on consoles. Its a PC game through and through. After playing as much as I have and almost always being over 100 fps I cant imagine going back to play under 60 with tearing or god forbid 30.
The series S port is going to be fun to look at.
The series S port is going to be fun to look at.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Is this an issue for a top down game?
I presume it must be not that big deal. Waiting for Xbox release.
I presume it must be not that big deal. Waiting for Xbox release.
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Guilty_AI
Member
43 seconds? It takes nowhere near that long on PC
splattered
Member
Goddamn! The PS5 was holding back the Series S this entire time! 
thatJohann
Member
Ew long load times on PS5? I thought those were a thing of the past. Hard pass.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
my concern here is the awful loadings times.
vaibhavpisal
Member
Yeah, I can live with it though. Other option would be to wait an year till I build a pc.
PC is clearly lead platform here.
thatJohann
Member
I don’t understand. Everyone on Reddit saying load times are super fast on PS5. Which one is it?
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Seriously wtf?!
TheDarkPhantom
Member
Cool, will play it in 2 years when it's all patched up/PS5 Pro is out, way too much to play anyway.
feynoob
Member
PC game. Its not a game that is designed for consoles.
This gen consoles are outdated already.
feynoob
Member
No one plays split screen these days. Have no clue why larian were persistent on that sector.
They could have just done online host, which would have been much easier thing to do.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
This is why I was expressing concerns about the console ports. Reviews will be interesting.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
If there's one thing I know being a console owner is that CRPG devs don't give a damn about the console versions of their games. Larian ia the only one that even cared enough to give us a locked 30 at 4k in the past and minimal bugs with DOS2. So, even being Larian i'm not expecting great performance. Dont get me wrong it'll still piss me off if they can't get this to dynamic 4k/locked 60 and it already sounds like they failed on that end. Other crpg devs though wouldn't even TRY to give us 2 modes.
Its a shame really because these devs are charging us the same $60-$70 dollars. Consoles get the shaft more often then not these days. Btw HDR is broken too in this game.
Its a shame really because these devs are charging us the same $60-$70 dollars. Consoles get the shaft more often then not these days. Btw HDR is broken too in this game.
nightmare-slain
Member
Daaamn lol that’s bad! 43 second loading ?
And can’t even do 60fps?
Oh well too bad.
And can’t even do 60fps?
Oh well too bad.
nowhat
Member
My completely just-pulled-it-out-my-ass guess (just playing it right now) is that Larian doesn't yet use the correct PS5 APIs for I/O. Like, PS4 backcompat games load faster for sure on PS5, but you're still not going to see Insomniac-level load times without the real APIs.
As to why the game would use the old PS4 I/O, well, it has been in development for a while. PS4 may very well have been a target at some point.
darrylgorn
Member
I wouldn't be too pessimistic about this just yet. From my experience on a mid tier laptop, Larian has managed to pull some rabbits out of their hat on performance with each successive patch.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
i dont understand why performance settings is same with quality mode.
Why not reduce it to increase the FPS?
Lagspike_exe
Member
They're by far the slowest I ever experienced on PS5.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Creative decision.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
If they're charging $70 then you can't just excuse poor performance with "PC game". Yeah, the consoles are outdated already. Still, doesn't change the fact that most devs these days can't seem to optomize for shit. Esp crpg devs on consoles. They just throw their games on the storefronts and string us along with promises of "fixes" that never come yet of course they still charge $60-$70! Look at PoE2 and Pathfinder WotR. Crap performance, shitty settings, hard crashing, 3 patches behind PC until they eventually abandon console. It's easy for you to hand wave away bad behavior from devs since you are on their preferred platform but what does that say about you?
feynoob
Member
Maybe there is a problem with cpu.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
If devs are going to give consoles an inferior game they shouldn't also be charging $70. That's bullshit.
feynoob
Member
I am not excusing them for that.
This is something companies have gotten away for a long time.
As long as the game is good, people wont complain about these stuff that much. They know it. Its why bethesda/EA/Ubisoft keep doing those stuff everytime.
darrylgorn
Member
Likely CPU limited, so it would either be LOD that would need to be scaled back along with dynamic interactions.
The only other way would be to reduce the number of NPCs existing in the game.
I'm assuming there's no DLSS implementation, otherwise that would be a huge boost if they could find a way to inject that into the game.
