CyberPanda
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'Gears 5' Is The Win That Microsoft Needed, The Xbox's Answer To 'Uncharted'
After a long generation with a lot of missteps, Microsoft has a major win in the form of 'Gears 5'.
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Forbes: 'Gears 5' Is The Win That Microsoft Needed, The Xbox's Answer To 'Uncharted'
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Agreed that its what they needed, but I would argue its more of a killer app for Game Pass than Xbox One itself. The fact that this Forbes writer is playing on PC tells me as much. Gears 5 is the type of thing that makes people take a look into Game Pass. Then from there the new consumer looks into either PC or Xbox One/Scarlet depending on what they have or what they can afford.
Game Pass is easily the second major victory for Xbox this gen (first was their magic with backwards compatibility).
Game Pass is easily the second major victory for Xbox this gen (first was their magic with backwards compatibility).
Bergoglio
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As a long term Gears of War player since 2007, I have always had issues with the series’s lore. Personally, I think the origin of the locust is plot-hole and plot inconsistency. If the locust are descended from Sires from the New Hope Facility there numbers, culture and architecture don’t make sense. I really want the lore to be more clear and more developed. But, I also want there to be more convincing explanations of things significant to the series such as: the origin of the locust, humans on Sera , imuslion and the Swarm. I think we well see more Gears games than Uncharted in the future.
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Cert.in.Death
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An answer to a franchise that, as of writing, is over and done with? Bit late for that.
But Gears 5, to give MS credit, is at least something that adds a bit of sheen to MS’ first party reputation, something that had been in disparate need of repair all generation long.
But Gears 5, to give MS credit, is at least something that adds a bit of sheen to MS’ first party reputation, something that had been in disparate need of repair all generation long.
Explosive Zombie
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Didn't Uncharted: Drake's Fortune get called an answer to Gears of War on release as well as derivative of that game? I certainly knew that was the argument on forums at the time. But hey, not the first time a franchise Uncharted came after was a response to it, looking at you Tomb Raider reboot.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
I'm much more positive in my outlook for Xbox than most but this article is nothing more than console war baiting trash typical of "Forbes Contributors."
Having a strong exclusive against many is not a "win" by any stretch of the imagination, and trying to compare Gears and Uncharted as apples to apples is a disservice to both franchises.
Having a strong exclusive against many is not a "win" by any stretch of the imagination, and trying to compare Gears and Uncharted as apples to apples is a disservice to both franchises.
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Yu Furealdo
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Yeah both series are pretty different, especially now. Gears 5 is as much of an 'answer' to Uncharted as it is to any AAA game, really...
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Sleepwalker
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I decided to play through all the gears games again, currently got about half of judgement left before I finally go to 5 and I agree with this, the amount of plot holes when it comes to the locust is insane. They have a social dynamic, culture, language (?), and even things like a numerical system that take hundreds of years to develop, nevermind the amount of built structures underground and the domestication of most of the creatures in the hollow.
Personally I think it made much more sense when it was believed that the locust were a species native to Sera that lived underground. The whole human looking queen thing is a bit sketch.
The games also don't really do a good job of telling these things to the player, in Gears 2 when I beat the sires level for the first time I just figured they were running experiments on locust mutations. It wasn't until I decided to research deeper into the lore that I found out about the locust origins.
Gears plot could be narrowed down to buff dudes against bug looking aliens/creatures in order to save the world/humanity but as they try to expand on it they'll need to address these plotholes.
Despite all this I really enjoy the universe and wish they gave us more info on it.
Explosive Zombie
Banned
Can't wait for Halo 6, XBOX's answer to the Killzone franchise.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
OP and Forbes dude are right, Gears is a pillar for M$.
They are aliens you shoot, how much more clear do you need to be?
bigDdestruction
Member
An answer to Uncharted at the tail end of the generation. Sorry, too little too late.
Hawke502
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Gears 5 expands a lot on the lore
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Amazing game and I like it more and more the more I play it. Fure sure one of the best games of this year which'll be in my top 5. Can't wait to see what The Coalition will do on the new Xbox and PC.
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Horsemama1956
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I'm sure people would like that but won't change the fact that fortnite, lol, dota2, wow etc dwarf everything in gaming outside of GTA.
Xbox as a platform just seems so unnecessary now.
Caffeine
Member
its really just a cheap option for an entrance to market. kinda like those steam boxes were.
Xenon
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Though an argument could be made for it being the 3rd. The Xbox One X was the second.
jakinov
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We need someone to help keep Sony on their toes and help give some power to consumers. We need an alternative for people to better vote with their wallet. We need reasons for Sony to be motivated to go hard with their first party efforts, innovating as a platform and optimizing consumer benefit. Look at after the PS2 generation, how non-innovative and arrogant Sony was. They made things harder for developers and they knew it and they saw it as their own advantage for their first party efforts. They lacked a shit ton of features Xbox provided and that was released before it. Xbox came in and "stole" a bunch of their traditionally 3rd party exclusives franchises and made a shit ton of deals that got them exclusive releases and content; and that pushed Sony to really change their strategy. They realized they couldn't neglect their 3rd party anymore, started talking/supporting 3rd party developers more, started copying all the things Xbox did better, started coming out with their own unique features on the PS4, and reved up their first party efforts by acquiring studios, & making multi-game deals with a bunch of independently owned ones. An example from the other side on the importance of competition, is when Xbox did the anti-used game thing. If Sony, wasn't there they would have kept on with it. If Xbox wasn't there Sony would probably do the same or something similar, and there'd be no pressure for them not to. They said they never planned to do anything like that, but they definitely were trying to curb used game sales because it impacted them too; as they don't get royalties and are publishers themselves. Xbox's decision and the resulting outrage is likely what led to Sony banning online passes (a practice which they themselves participated in shortly before) and possibly them not even considering adding new restrictions.
Gamernyc78
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This isn't the answer to Uncharted because imo and the consensus is that in terms of sales and quality Uncharted has eclipsed it and is on another level. This was basically a decent to good game Microsoft needed after all the busts and mediocre shit thy been putting out. This definitely shouldn't be a kudos moment but an "about time moment" on one of your established ips. It's a competent offering finally after the last few games (not talking about Gears series) thy have been putting out.
Sony's devs are going to push boundaries, innovate, come out with quality no matter who is around because thts just in their ethics. Good devs take pride in their work. Of course competition is good but Gears 5 isn't pushing ND to do anything it hasn't taken tht crown from them, if anything Uncharted with less linear play has influenced this last itineration of Gears although thy claimed it was God of War.
Sony's devs are going to push boundaries, innovate, come out with quality no matter who is around because thts just in their ethics. Good devs take pride in their work. Of course competition is good but Gears 5 isn't pushing ND to do anything it hasn't taken tht crown from them, if anything Uncharted with less linear play has influenced this last itineration of Gears although thy claimed it was God of War.
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DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
lol exactly
Bonfires Down
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Meatheads in huge armor will never have the mainstream appeal that Uncharted or TLoU has. And Naughty Dog has proven that they can do an emotional and comedic story on a level that Gears does not seem to match.
SpartanN92
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I am only half way through Gears 5 but as of this point there is no character or actor (except for John DiMaggio as Marcus) likable enough to carry the cinematic weight that Nolan North shoulders in Uncharted.
Kait, Del and JD feel fake, and their banter feels silly and forced compared to Nate and Sully for example.
Kait, Del and JD feel fake, and their banter feels silly and forced compared to Nate and Sully for example.
Spaceman292
Banned
Sick burn.
Deputy Moonman
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Never actually played through any of the previous gears games believe it or not. When Gears 3 had the multiplayer beta I spent a considerable amount or time in that though. Playing through Gears 5 now with game pass and it is a really good looking game. I wish I had an Xbox one X to take advantage of the HDR.
DunDunDunpachi
Patient MembeR
Imagine if Halo: Infinite was pegged as "Microsoft's Killzone: Shadow Fall killer"
SpartanN92
Banned
I love Gears 1-3, you should absolutely give those a shot if you get a chance. CoOp on the highest difficulty in those games is an amazing experience.
Thaedolus
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You should work for Microsoft.
I hope this doesn't sound fanboyish, I own every Sony platform and have only owned an X360 which I've since sold, but Uncharted doesn't even touch Gears in terms of gameplay or even storytelling in my mind. Maybe better acted/console graphics/production values, but that's about it. I found the gunplay to be completely unsatisfying and a jarring contrast to the lightheartedness of the characters. It was a weird juxtaposition that broke my suspension of disbelief. TLOU I consider to be one of my favorite games ever, and along with Gears that's a huge difference between them and Uncharted...just consistency in the tone. Although some of the lighthearted banter among the younger Gears in Gears 4 and 5 is a pretty cringe
MiyazakiHatesKojima
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ruvikx
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They should wait for sales data, player base longevity & all the word of mouth tralalalala before screaming "victory". Gears 5 won't have the gaming pop culture impact of the first 3 Gears. That seems self evident. I also doubt it'll reach the popularity heights of the Uncharted trilogy either.
Wait & see but in this market games are like fast food: consumed & flushed within hours.
Wait & see but in this market games are like fast food: consumed & flushed within hours.
Roberts
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Let me know when Uncharted franchise is even close to reaching the level of excitement when playing any of the GoW games. Don't get me wrong, Nathan Drake's adventures are ok games, but the storytelling portion is a collection of Hollywood cliches and the gameplay is really nothing to write home about. Its slick presentation gives an illusion of a better game than it is actually is.
LostDonkey
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The last two Tomb Raiders have been better than Uncharted for me. MultiPlatform already beat MS to it a while back.
Gears 5 is a totally different kind of game though im not sure you can even compare the two. If I was to compare gears to anything else i guess it would have to be The Order on Sonys side and Id still put Gears 5 above it even though it was a very short but ok TPS.
Gears 5 is a totally different kind of game though im not sure you can even compare the two. If I was to compare gears to anything else i guess it would have to be The Order on Sonys side and Id still put Gears 5 above it even though it was a very short but ok TPS.
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Birdo
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ruvikx
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Uncharted 2 was big back in 2009, i.e. blockbuster level "huge" in the console war at the time. Back then, PS3 versus Xbox 360 actually mattered, with both consoles enjoying their flagship popular titles pushing gameplay & graphics. I just don't see the same potential in any modern releases on either console.
That collective lack of passion or obsession applies to most games, even the popular franchises. It's just getting all too "samey" now for stuff like Gears 5 to look unmissable & a "must buy" in this market. That's just my opinion. I'll say the same about stuff like Last of Us 2 as well.
Gamernyc78
Banned
Yeah the run, post up and bounce off wall with shot gun lol definitely better gun play and action /s meanwhile in planet Uncharted you can take cover, zip line, climb tall walls, do traversal and game play is dynamic asf lol you not fooling us most of us have played both. I was just playing Gears 5 mp with its sane stiff ass, drunken slanted running (always feels weird) and hopped over a very little ledge to then go to cover in another place a little bit higher but couldn't vault over lol I was like wtf is this. Gears gameplay is static, generic and very Tiring by now. You can do so much more in Uncharted games. But it's OK I'll zip line pass you and watch u hating from the sideline dude bro
Those meta scores must be giving you nightmares "easily"
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LMAO
2007, Uncharted is the answer to Gears.. .
2019 . Gears is the answer to Uncharted ....
GameSpot review 7/10 - Spot ON
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2007, Uncharted is the answer to Gears.. .
2019 . Gears is the answer to Uncharted ....
GameSpot review 7/10 - Spot ON
Gears 5 Review
The Coalition adds a lot of smart new ideas to the Gears of War formula in Gears 5.
www.gamespot.com
Gamernyc78
Banned
This has been the case Ever since uncharted 2 which swept the floor in awards over every game tht year and shitted all over Gears lol Wtf u been or what planet you live on? Since Uc2 Gears has been seen as chasing Uncharted tail and never been the same. Tht Uncharted 2 demo alone had more hype when it was shown with tons of action than anything Gears in years
Boy revisionist history and forgetfulness is stong in some of these threads.
Either way although not feeling, being as dynamic or controlling as good as UC games Gears is still a decent game. I'm having fun with Gears 5.
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ruvikx
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Shit, even (especially) game sites have lost all their lustre & I don't know many people who give a flying-f about Gamespot or other such site's scores. Ten years ago, people literally obsessed over the 0.1 differences in review scores between platform exclusives. It was "serious business" in the console war (there's a hilarious gaf Uncharted 3 review thread as evidence).
Do you know what Miscrosoft's only possible answer to PlayStation could be? Sell a better spec console (or identical) at a lower price. That's it. But releasing Gears 5, 6, 7 or 800 won't make Xbox answer Uncharted with anything (especially considering Uncharted was discontinued & wasn't even anywhere near the reason why Sony's machine is more sucessful).
Bryank75
Banned
Yup, you could see the review releases were tightly managed and the media themselves knew an xbox 'win' was overdue and that they would play their part. I mean Uncharted 4 still got a 40% troll review and its meta is 10 points above Gears 5.LMAO
2007, Uncharted is the answer to Gears.. .
2019 . Gears is the answer to Uncharted ....
GameSpot review 7/10 - Spot ON
Gears 5 Review
The Coalition adds a lot of smart new ideas to the Gears of War formula in Gears 5.
Even looking at Gears 5, the environmental art and assets look like they were taken out of Uncharted 4 and a Gears guy superimposed onto it, the girl even has an amulet like Drake or someone would carry . The gameplay is stiff, there is very little verticality and there is a video showing how Gears 2 animation was way better than 5. Its just really dated, some people love that nostalgia but it's not that long ago for me.
Anyone saying Gears has better gameplay than UC4 , just play the two multiplayers back to back... Uncharted 4 blows it away. Gears is simple simon in comparison.
