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Forty-four states have refused Kobach's request for voter information

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Shard

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/03/polit...voter-fraud-commission-information/index.html


Forty-four states have refused the Trump administration's request for certain voter information, according to a CNN inquiry to all 50 states.
State leaders and voting boards across the country have responded to the letter with varying degrees of cooperation -- from altogether rejecting the request to expressing eagerness to supply information that is public.

The information the commission is seeking includes registrants' full names, addresses, dates of birth, political parties, the last four digits of their social security numbers, a list of the elections they voted in since 2006, information on any felony convictions, information on whether they were registered to vote in other states, their military status, and whether they lived overseas.

As of Tuesday afternoon, two states -- Florida and Nebraska -- are still reviewing the commission's request. Another two states -- Hawaii and New Jersey -- have not returned CNN's request for comment. And while six states are still awaiting a letter from the commission, four of them -- New Mexico, Michigan, South Carolina and West Virginia -- have already pledged not to provide voters' private information.

Just three states -- Colorado, Missouri and Tennessee -- commended Kobach's attempt to investigate voter fraud in their respective statements.
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Aeonin

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Sorry about Colorado ya'll. Writing and calling my representative tomorrow. We're way better than this.
 
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Zolo

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Keep in mind it's a mix of only giving what's publicly available, flat out refusing, and some cases where it would go against state law to give the info.
 
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kevin1025

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Donald Trump to now say it must be 3-5 million fraudulent votes per state, and negative amounts of people voted for Hillary.
 
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Slayven

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Georgia can only do half shit

Georgia officials said Friday they would not share information considered private under state law such as registered voters’ driver’s license numbers and Social Security numbers (since the ballot is secret, there are no records that show who a voter voted for), although they planned to share publicly available data made available to members of the public who request it — including voter names, addresses, race if provided by the voter and gender.
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LakeEarth

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Zolo said:
Keep in mind it's a mix of only giving what's publicly available, flat out refusing, and some cases where it would go against state law to give the info.
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Yeah people were surprised that some deep red states refused, but most of them have established laws preventing them from providing the information in the first place, so there really isn't a choice there.
 
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Zolo

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LakeEarth said:
Yeah people were surprised that some deep red states refused, but most of them have established laws preventing them from providing the information in the first place, so there really isn't a choice there.
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Still like Kentucky and Mississippi's responses the best.
 
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Kas

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I'm pretty sure here in NH we are going along with it.

Yay being the fucking south of the north.
 
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Version 3.0

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LakeEarth said:
Yeah people were surprised that some deep red states refused, but most of them have established laws preventing them from providing the information in the first place, so there really isn't a choice there.
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There's not much reason for deep red states to comply, given the goal here. Trump wants to prove he "really" won. And Kobach wants data to use for voter suppression tactics.

For both of those, what you really want is swing state data, or states that might be competitive if you can game the system a bit.

He only asked all 50 states to make it look uniform.

edit: and yeah, what the hell, Colorado? That would be one of the worst states to roll over; trending blue, but still in play for the GOP, especially if they can prevent minorities from voting.
 
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rootbeerafloat

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Apparently CO isn't giving them anything that isn't already public record. Still would be nice to have a SOS who wasn't slobbing Trump's knob as he hands it over.
 
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dallow_bg

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So Missouri and Tennessee are really going to give out partial SS#s and voting history?
(Colorado just doing standard public info)
 
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FyreWulff

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"Nebraska: "The Secretary of State has not had a chance to review the request submitted," a spokesperson told CNN Monday."

Pete Ricketts gonna make sure the SOS all over that Trump knob
 
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Zolo

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dallow_bg said:
So Missouri and Tennessee are really going to give out partial SS#s and voting history?
(Colorado just doing standard public info)
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Tennessee: "Although I appreciate the commission's mission to address election-related issues, like voter fraud, Tennessee state law does not allow my office to release the voter information requested to the federal commission," tweeted Secretary of State Tre Hargett.
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Tbh, this is why the # is so high I'd guess. A good # of states seem to not be able to flat-out give the info in the first place.
 
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Zolo

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epmode said:
WHY

Why would conservatives be cheering such a blatant beach of privacy by the federal government? Is the Republican party nothing more than Fuck Liberals at this point?

edit: I guess that's a rhetorical question.
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At least use r/conservatives or something as an example. r/the_donald literally removes topics that criticism anything relating to the Trump administration.
 
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adj_noun

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Zolo said:
Feels the distinction comes to whether sharing all the info or not is considered refusing or not.
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It doesn't help that relatively few stories are actually going through state by state and explaining what they're doing and why.

In WA you could make a case that we're cooperating (because our Sec of state is sharing publicly available info) or not (refusing the rest).
 
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ascii42

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Was curious what my state would do. Makes sense:
Georgia said:
The Georgia Secretary of State's Office will provide the publicly available voter list," Press Secretary Candice L. Broce told CNN Friday. "As specified in Georgia law, the public list does not contain a registered voter's driver's license number, social security number, month and day of birth, site of voter registration, phone number, or email address.""The Georgia Secretary of State's Office will provide the publicly available voter list," Press Secretary Candice L. Broce told CNN Friday. "As specified in Georgia law, the public list does not contain a registered voter's driver's license number, social security number, month and day of birth, site of voter registration, phone number, or email address.
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Escape Goat

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If it's available to the public why can't Kobach get it himself? Optics? Better to have it seen as states take any heat than Trump I would guess.
 
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Futurevoid

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There's a privacy lawsuit already in motion against the commission. They've asked the government for more information by noon tomorrow:

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It'll be amusing if the courts outright block this whole thing.
 
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