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[Spaceman Spiff]

I'm suprised laser scanned tracks isn't getting much attention. It's pretty megaton.

Not only is it easier to develop as a computer models the track surface perfectly so all you need to do is model the environment but they are quiet literally perfect virtual recreations.

Hoping T10 have done it across all real world tracks.

More than anything else they've announced thus far, this is the one feature I'd like to hear more about. In particular, to what extent has laser-scanning been implemented? Scanning the tracks that are new to the series, sure, but I find it rather hard to believe that they've had sufficient time to go back and rescan the tracks previously modeled with GPS data.

You're right, though. Provided this isn't just marketing hype, laser-scanning is a very big deal and a huge step forward for the series.

 

[soundscream]

No problems, mind isn't blown. You've just let me know you're insane

Says the main who is miffed about what other people do with their money. Or that their lifestyle might be diffrebt then your own causing certain asspects of the Xbox one to seem more attractive.

 

[SatansReverence]

but I find it rather hard to believe that they've had sufficient time to go back and rescan the tracks previously modeled with GPS data.

That's the thing with laser scanning, it's significantly quicker, easier and more accurate.

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

I can see new tracks possibly being scanned but any previous ones (barring Silverstone) just getting tarted up.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

That's the thing with laser scanning, it's significantly quicker, easier and more accurate.

Definitely, but Turn 10 completely revamping their track modelling process just a few short years after FM4 and its GPS-sourced tracks were being hailed as the best thing since sliced bread just sounds to good to be true, although I would love nothing more than to eat a bit of crow.

 

[user_nat]

Game would look even more amazing if they turned the sun down

 

[soundscream]

Game would look even more amazing if they turned the sun down

They spent a lot of money reverse engineering the sun, their getting their money's worth!

 

[FunnyBunny]

Here's a fun little game to play.

What does FM5 need to have to convince you to buy an X1?

For me

Dynamic time of day.
Dynamic weather.
Bathurst.

If it doesn't have all of these, no buy.

It's out of Turn 10's hands. I need Microsoft to drop the 24 hour check-in and lower the price by at least $50.

 

[SatansReverence]

Definitely, but Turn 10 completely revamping their track modelling process just a few short years after FM4 and its GPS-sourced tracks were being hailed as the best thing since sliced bread just sounds to good to be true, although I would love nothing more than to eat a bit of crow.

I don't think you quite understand how much quicker laser scanning could be.

Creating a track the old fashioned way took a year or more.

With laser scanning, they could scan the entire track inside of a day and simply gather environment detail. No laborious trecks around the track with a GPS device logging points on each side. No extensive pro race driver testing to get bump/camber information.

They could easily half the time to develop tracks because computers would quite literally do most of the difficult work.

I can see new tracks possibly being scanned but any previous ones (barring Silverstone) just getting tarted up.

It really wouldn't take long to run the scanning truck around the track, import the information into a computer to convert it into a high detail mesh and import that directly into the track files. It would take a lot longer to manually do it and even longer to upgrade the track environments.

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

Would T10 need to scan it themselves, can't these scans be bought like a car model?

 

[SatansReverence]

Would T10 need to scan it themselves, can't these scans be bought like a car model?

They would likely be contracting the scans out to another company that has been doing it for sometime.

 

[Perkel]

Looks amazing (sans shitty godrays) but i didn't saw there things like weather or day/night cycle. Also still undisclosed wheel support. There will be thrustmaster one but what with old wheels ?

 

[G Rom]

Would T10 need to scan it themselves, can't these scans be bought like a car model?

IIRC, some tracks offer laser scanned versions as part of licensing, I think I had read that some years ago about the Nurburgring. Maybe BADNED could confirm that ?


I just can't get over how beautiful the cars look, we finally see the models as they were intended to be seen. I can't wait to see regular cars (i.e non super cars) with the new shaders.
I just want this to be confirmed now :
-dynamic time of day
-dynamic weather
-Spahurst
-maybe some form of offroad racing
-wheel legacy support for the owners

Any idea when we will get a Gamespot video similar to the one for FM4 ?

 

[Mascot]

I just can't get over how beautiful the cars look, we finally see the models as they were intended to be seen. I can't wait to see regular cars (i.e non super cars) with the new shaders.
I just want this to be confirmed now :
-dynamic time of day
-dynamic weather
-Spahurst
-maybe some form of offroad racing
-wheel legacy support for the owners

Agreed, except offroad racing. Don't want it.

Any idea when we will get a Gamespot video similar to the one for FM4 ?

Wednesday 1pm EST on Gamespot I think (according to SatansReverence Soundscream).

(5pm GMT, 6pm BST)

 

[saladine1]

I love the 'imperfections' seen on the cars.
Looks like bug splatter or something on the headlights, rubber/tar on the vehicle body?
Damage looks good too with better crumple..

 

[G Rom]

Thanks Mascot.
I love that as well, Saladine. I just hope we can turn it off in photo mode. Speaking of which, photos will be incredible with that level of details...

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

I love the 'imperfections' seen on the cars.
Looks like bug splatter or something on the headlights, rubber/tar on the vehicle body?
Damage looks good too with better crumple..

Yeah everything I've seen so far looks fantastic, it what hasn't been shown that's bothering me.

 

[Shaneus]

Yeah everything I've seen so far looks fantastic, it what hasn't been shown that's bothering me.

A lot of it is stuff that comes out in the wash as well. It might be good on launch, but we honestly don't know what after-launch support will be like. If the other games are anything to go by... not fantastic.

Yes, I'm being somewhat negative because it's literally the only game I want the console for, so I'm just keeping everything tempered until we know more. Hell, it's another four-five months until we get it, so a lot could change between now and then.

 

[saladine1]

We can only really comment on what's been shown so far and I like what I see.

However, there are real concerns that need to be addressed.

Sigh, I wish it didn't have to come to this you know. I wish that everything was hunky dory with regards to DRM/Online/Wheel support so that we could be talking the game up with a level of hype it deserves.

I mean of what's known so far:

1080p 60fps
Laser scanned tracks
Stunning visuals
Drivatar
Open Wheelers
Race day atmosphere
Physics
..etc

This thread should really be exploding. There should be more discussion.
This is why I constantly stress that Turn 10 need to show or say something that'll truly put asses in seats...

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

Should have been Dan telling us about the open wheeled cars and laser scanned tracks on stage, we need some solid details.

 

[Mascot]

Should have been Dan telling us about the open wheeled cars and laser scanned tracks on stage, we need some solid details.

Absolutely. What better forum is there than on stage at the fucking MS press conference, with a worldwide audience watching on Spike and on Gametrailers? Instead we get some flowery guff, some dry ice and some limited game footage.

Why the hell did we find the best things about this game afterwards in some random text file that someone found buried on the internet?

As Sal says, MS need some serious damage limitation right now - especially after he Sony presser - but once again their marketing is leaving a lot to be desired. Prick teases strung out between now and November - especially those that turn out to bear fuck-all fruit - just will not cut it anymore.

 

[saladine1]

The new wheel?

Oh, and there's BADNED on the left..

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

That looks hefty!

Oh god, don't be amazing and make me spend lots of money!

 

[saladine1]

That looks hefty!

Oh god, don't be amazing and make me spend lots of money!

Well, Dan did say it was powerful...

Fanatec are still saying that they can't answer any questions about compatibility as they don't have any information from MS...

 

[Psychotext]

What does FM5 need to have to convince you to buy an X1?

Fanatec Support
Night Racing

...and from the non FM5 column, an X1 price cut.

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

If Fanatec have no solution then surely they would have said a firm "nope", they have nothing to lose in doing so and I don't see how a hardware partner would kept kept in the dark over the matter. Hopefully they are just working something out.

Seen the Forbes footage? Game appears to be played at a different time of day.

Youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhSlSIuAT3A

 

[saladine1]

The FGTV video has some weird colour issues lol

But you do see the wheel a little better.

 

[Blimblim]

60 fps video from the showfloor incoming (720p)

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Forza looks godly.

 

[Mascot]

Dan is apparently talking/demoing FM5 on MS's Twitch channel at 11:30pm BST.

http://www.twitch.tv/MicrosoftStudios

 

[CrunchinJelly]

So what have they actually announced for the game at E3?

It doesn't seem like much from what I can see.

 

[amar212]

60 fps video from the showfloor incoming (720p)

Blim, can you save us the pain, please?

Can any of you guys ask Turn10 about situation with the wheels:

- will any of Fanatec Forza Motorsport X360 wheel models work on XBO,
- if not, does XBO allows for usage of USB wheels,
- is the new Thrustmaster prototype XBO wheel only,
- is that wheel Xinput (XID) wireless wheel as previous generation of Xbox Xinput wheels,
- if not -if it is USB wheel - does it use USB HID standard and support other USB platforms or does it again use some special connectivity standard,
- should new wheel be available on launch with the game?

Thank you in advance for this, hundreds of people on many communities would like to know this answers and nobody wants to ask questions.

 

[drifter444]

60 fps video from the showfloor incoming (720p)

Thank you base Blimblim

 

[Blimblim]

60 fps off-screen video, rather good quality I'd say:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_e3_forza_5_60_fps_gameplay-14190_en.html

Blim, can you save us the pain, please?

Can any of you guys ask Turn10 about situation with the wheels:

- will any of Fanatec Forza Motorsport X360 wheel models work on XBO,
- if not, does XBO allows for usage of USB wheels,
- is the new Thrustmaster prototype XBO wheel only,
- is that wheel Xinput (XID) wireless wheel as previous generation of Xbox Xinput wheels,
- if not -if it is USB wheel - does it use USB HID standard and support other USB platforms or does it again use some special connectivity standard,
- should new wheel be available on launch with the game?

Thank you in advance for this, hundreds of people on many communities would like to know this answers and nobody wants to ask questions.

Sadly I don't think our guys there have any way of contacting the Turn10 people. I'll see what they can do, but don't hold your breath.

 

[soundscream]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/11/forza-5-gameplay-demo-ign-live-e3-2013

Dan with IGN

USB hook up for thrustmaster?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhSlSIuAT3A
@4:19 Pit crew?

 

[Mascot]

If Fanatec have no solution then surely they would have said a firm "nope", they have nothing to lose in doing so and I don't see how a hardware partner would kept kept in the dark over the matter. Hopefully they are just working something out.

Seen the Forbes footage? Game appears to be played at a different time of day.

Youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhSlSIuAT3A

Dan looks like the Incredible Hulk's Eastern European gangster cousin in that video.

I had to lol at Dan saying (paraphrase) "we aren't trying to turn pad users into wheel users or wheel users into pad players".

No. Microsoft are trying to turn wheel users into fucking pad users!

You won't like me when I'm angry. GRRRRRR..!

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

Kissing my prophetic avatar may or may not give us Fanatec compatibility but you are free to try regardless.

 

[skyfinch]

The game looks phenomenal. Amazing at what they have done in only two years and on a completely new platform.

 

[Mascot]

Kissing my prophetic avatar may or may not give us Fanatec compatibility but you are free to try regardless.

That is one scary motherfucking picture, dude. The stuff of nightmares.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/11/forza-5-gameplay-demo-ign-live-e3-2013

Dan with IGN

Nice video. I've heard "native 1080p at 60 frames per second" three times now but "God Rays" had just entered the fray.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

The game looks phenomenal. Amazing at what they have done in only two years and on a completely new platform.

If you consider the jump from Forza 3 to 4 was fairly minor then they should have had a lot of the most-requested features in the oven for quite a few years.

Turn 10 are a big developer.

(Edit: I may or may not have made a similar post pre-Forza 4. )

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Seen the Forbes footage? Game appears to be played at a different time of day.

Youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhSlSIuAT3A

Check out the animated crew members around the car at 1:45. Nice touch, and it may suggest animated pit stops are finally in, too.

Spoiler

Provided pit stops are in at all...

 

[saladine1]

60 fps off-screen video, rather good quality I'd say:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_e3_forza_5_60_fps_gameplay-14190_en.html


Sadly I don't think our guys there have any way of contacting the Turn10 people. I'll see what they can do, but don't hold your breath.

Holy shit Blim!

Great quality.

Man, FM5 looks absolutely fucking crazy!
Fuuuuuuuuu!!!!

I saw grid girls, marshalls..etc Plenty of action on the start line. Well fucking done Turn 10!

I hate the music and shit at these events. I need to hear the cars!!

 

[Mascot]

Holy shit Blim!

Great quality.

Man, FM5 looks absolutely fucking crazy!
Fuuuuuuuuu!!!!

I hate the music and shit at these events. I need to hear the cars!!

Blim's vids rule E3 once again. Take a bow, Blim. Stellar stuff.

 

[derFeef]

Goddamn oO

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Forza looks godly.

 

[skyfinch]

Damn it!, my laptop doesn't have the ram-flops or the cloud processing to run Blim's videos.

 

[drugstore_cowboy]

Fantastic footage, the increased backfire is welcome and the windscreen reflections are insane!

 

[saladine1]

Perhaps someone can make some GIF's. Trust me though, if you can download Gamersyde's video, you will cream your pants..

 

[NullPointer]

Have they mentioned any new features? Besides the extension of drivatar I mean?

Night? Dirt? Snow? Anything? Or is there a decent summary anywhere?

 

[Mascot]

Have they mentioned any new features? Besides the extension of drivatar I mean?

Night? Dirt? Snow? Anything? Or is there a decent summary anywhere?

Don't be silly. They haven't even plucked the chicken yet, let alone started tickling our balls with the feather. Info will be drawn out slowly over the next five months.