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Forza Motorsport 8 details by Creative Director Chris Esaki

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I wish polyphony was as prolific as Turn 10. These dudes get these games out there at a good clip.
I wish there was some middle ground. Only one Gran Turismo this generation is not enough (especially considering it didn't offer a lot of content on launch), but Turn 10 & Playground aren't great either because of mass-releasing their games built on pretty much the same foundations. It's not that visible with Horizon thanks to new locations (and seasons in FH4), but it definitely is with Motorsport. The biggest upgrade was probably adding proper 4K support in FM7, but the rest was mostly selling the same product again with limited brand new content.
 
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It's probably still on the same shit engine with the same shit lighting and same 700 cars we've had since FM4 plus whatever new cars+DLC Horizon 4 had. Their recipe is so tired. The Motorsport series needs a serious refresh. I hope the new one is good however.
 

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Are they attempting to model sophisticated modern drivetrains like the ones in the GTR or NSX? It's disappointing that thus far console sims have largely avoided trying to mimic the advancements in how modern sportscars handle.
 

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Please let this still be a couple years away. Please don't force this to match the Scarlett launch and fix all the odds and ends before launch instead of a year after launch this time.
Forza 8 was supposed to be released last year. They have one additional year than previous releases.
 

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Ugh. Still limited by the 2013 1TF Xbox One. I wonder when we will see a true next-gen racing game.
 
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I loved Forza for like a decade but it really got stale this gen. Forza 5 cut content and features from Forza 4 that still haven’t returned. The career is still the same boring thing and the actual motorsports racing is pretty shallow compared to competitors. But they added like a million stupid cosmetic costumes.

I went over to Gran Turismo Sport but I really hope T10 bring it with all the extra dev time.
 
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I see buthurt sony fanboys in this thread wich is funny that they can still talk about Forza after all the reviews, graphics and sales talk that they lost lol. Keep fighting, one day you will have a game close to Forza so you can atleast have a decent job at defending it till death.
I find this post ironic. Not in the sense that what your saying is wrong, console warring and all that, but you have been in the racing graphics OT reporting posts for the very thing you are doing here.

I even did you a solid and lifted your thread ban from that thread early in the New Year.

If you don’t want people console warring in one direction, don’t come in lighting fire to the tires and do the very thing you despise.

Be the change you wish to see here, no?
 
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I find this post ironic. Not in the sense that what your saying is wrong, console warring and all that, but you have been in the racing graphics OT reporting posts for the very thing you are doing here.

I even did you a solid and lifted your thread ban from that thread early in the New Year.

If you don’t want people console warring in one direction, don’t come in lighting fire to the tires and do the very thing you despise.

Be the change you wish to see here, no?
Just curious, where are your warnings and lecturing to the Sony defence force on this forum, "Mod"?
This is seriously the only "ironic" post you bothered to highlight?
 
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It's probably still on the same shit engine with the same shit lighting and same 700 cars we've had since FM4 plus whatever new cars+DLC Horizon 4 had. Their recipe is so tired. The Motorsport series needs a serious refresh. I hope the new one is good however.
That's right, the same awful all award winning, incontested best driving simulation game of the the decade, such a bore. And only 700 cars? How dare they only offer over twice as many cars as the closest competitor?
 

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Just curious, where are your warnings and lecturing to the Sony defence force on this forum, "Mod"?
This is seriously the only "ironic" post you bothered to highlight?
Those are handed out plenty, even reply bans and forums bans too.

I called this person out due to his history and exchanges we had via PM where he promised to not act this way going forward. Mind yours.
 
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I stand corrected then.
As I have said many times in the past. We can’t see everything, so instead of digging in, and doubling down on the “wars” and trolling back, report the blatant posts that are intentionally derailing topics. Adding fuel to the fire makes for one big mess by being a part of the problem and not the solution. Believe me, I know how tempting it is to clap back, just try and not take the bait.
 
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Ugh. Still limited by the 2013 1TF Xbox One. I wonder when we will see a true next-gen racing game.

Forza horizon 2 also came out for the last gen (XBOX 360) and for me the Xbox One version of FH2 looked like a true next gen game at the time
 
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I find this post ironic. Not in the sense that what your saying is wrong, console warring and all that, but you have been in the racing graphics OT reporting posts for the very thing you are doing here.

I even did you a solid and lifted your thread ban from that thread early in the New Year.

If you don’t want people console warring in one direction, don’t come in lighting fire to the tires and do the very thing you despise.

Be the change you wish to see here, no?
Sorry mate, this was started before your warning when i got a argument with some of the guys that posted in the other thread also (you know who im talking about). But like i said in my PM, i apologised, i got carried away and posted that stupid post because those poster where trolling on Forza constantly while ignoring everything bad about GT. But if you saw my second post in here you would know that i didn't wanna start console wars or anyhting. it was just aimed at those posters who constantly post random troll posts about Forza, wich i should have ignored. And after my warning i didn't write anything bad or didn't attack anybody.

Actually, if Kaz/PD screw up big times with nest GT yet again, with all those high performance CPU threads, double digit TF GPU, RT support, tons of high-bandwidth RAM, SSD drive, and what's not, there won't be any excuse at all on the hardware this time around, and I just cannot imagine GT series regaining its former glory ever again.
Yeah i hope not, because competition is good for both franchise's. I like them both and play them both. But the people on GT side (sony fanboys) are only bashing Forza while ignoring all the faults and flaws of GT. They woreship KAZ like hes some god or something.
 

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FH2 was made by 2 different teams its not the same code
The only thing they have in common is the name.
Thats because Xbox 360 was PowerPC architecture. XSX is just a Xbox One X with much better specs. You can just scale it down for Xbox One and remove some features like Ray Tracing and other effects. Stop trying to pretend like its rocket science.
 
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Lady Bernkastel

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I am not wrong though. Its your fault to believing everything you read in internet. Forza Horizon 2 on Xbox 360 is a port with some sacrifices they made. They need to ignore the port part and just scale it down.
You are not popping your Series X disc into Xbox One. Or do you seriously believe its literally the same game ?
 
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In all honesty, the fans of the series should determine that, not those who do even play the game. Your opinion almost doesn't count....almost.
Wrong!

His opinion doesnt count. He doesnt play the game. How the hell do you pass judgement in any capacity with no experience or knowledge. I get every one has opinions, doesnt mean their right though. And doesnt mean they should necessarily share them, It saves the world from excessive carbon monoxide and wasting electrolytes. Just putting that out there....
 

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I am not wrong though. Its your fault to believing everything you read in internet. Forza Horizon 2 on Xbox 360 is a port with some sacrifices they made. They need to ignore the port part and just scale it down.
You are not popping your Series X disc into Xbox One. Or do you seriously believe its literally the same game ?
Lets put this way.
We know next gem will have better cpu and a better gpu.
Lets say you can do 10 npc on screen for next gen. How you going to scale down to 1 npc to fit on xbox one?

Its not just about graphics. Its about destruction and other environment interation.
A lot of people seems to think next will be same with better graphics.
Do you think you can run days gone on ps3?

Games will have to be build with xbone in mind.

My 2 cents tho.
 

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Sorry mate, this was started before your warning when i got a argument with some of the guys that posted in the other thread also (you know who im talking about). But like i said in my PM, i apologised, i got carried away and posted that stupid post because those poster where trolling on Forza constantly while ignoring everything bad about GT. But if you saw my second post in here you would know that i didn't wanna start console wars or anyhting. it was just aimed at those posters who constantly post random troll posts about Forza, wich i should have ignored. And after my warning i didn't write anything bad or didn't attack anybody.
It's all good. It can get the better of us from time to time which I do understand. This is why I prefer to quote someone more often than not rather than jumping in heavy handed issuing warnings and bans to the accounts. I do take into consideration the post history, and when I quote someone it's usually a reminder since the person does not come off as a full on troll. So no action is taken to their account.

Full on trolls are dealt with heavier, for obvious reasons.
 
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Lets put this way.
We know next gem will have better cpu and a better gpu.
Lets say you can do 10 npc on screen for next gen. How you going to scale down to 1 npc to fit on xbox one?

Its not just about graphics. Its about destruction and other environment interation.
A lot of people seems to think next will be same with better graphics.
Do you think you can run days gone on ps3?

Games will have to be build with xbone in mind.

My 2 cents tho.

While there are some games that may not scale well or even possibly have features Limited by the older Hardware. I don't believe racing will be one of them. Increasing details and and the number of cars is very simple to do. Hell even advanced physic engines can be scaled down.
 

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While there are some games that may not scale well or even possibly have features Limited by the older Hardware. I don't believe racing will be one of them. Increasing details and and the number of cars is very simple to do. Hell even advanced physic engines can be scaled down.
I dont disagree with you.
Sport games as well.

I just think the notion that 100% of the games are scalable is ridiculous.

Star citizen is one of the examples. You cant scale that game down without compromising.
 

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While there are some games that may not scale well or even possibly have features Limited by the older Hardware. I don't believe racing will be one of them. Increasing details and and the number of cars is very simple to do. Hell even advanced physic engines can be scaled down.
Not really. A good example is Assetto Corsa Competizione. WhileI can play Assetto Corsa in 4k with my i52500k and 1060gtx, ACC is literally unplayable with opponents. Essential physic features are very hard to scale down.

But we really need to wait and see I personally cant wait for info on FM8. I also hope that we get a new lighting engine at least.
 

Lady Bernkastel

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Lets put this way.
We know next gem will have better cpu and a better gpu.
Lets say you can do 10 npc on screen for next gen. How you going to scale down to 1 npc to fit on xbox one?

Its not just about graphics. Its about destruction and other environment interation.
A lot of people seems to think next will be same with better graphics.
Do you think you can run days gone on ps3?

Games will have to be build with xbone in mind.

My 2 cents tho.
But they are not putting more cars on the screen. Why would you do that in a sim racer ? Read the OP about whats actually new.
 

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I wish polyphony was as prolific as Turn 10. These dudes get these games out there at a good clip.
I would say, that both next-gen GT and FM will be truely amazing experiences. Both companys have build a serious foundation and will deliver. Horizon 5 will just be the icing on the cake.
I realize this quote is from a while ago now, but I'd like to point out the Prolific simply refers to the quantity of works produced, not their quality, so the post this was in response to was in no way saying GT or Polyphony doesn't put out great games, just that Turn 10 has been able to produce a greater volume of games, at a consistent frequency.