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Neither in this video
If this looks cartooney to you then spank my butt and call me Hanna Barbera.
I'm not sure what Forza is representing here as it looks like it's about to rain and GT looks like it's halfway through the storm. It's like the headlights are not necessary to use yet in Forza and it's not being used in GT.
Neither in this video
and one of these is also a Series S game, and we all know the effect that has on games on the green side.One of these is also a PS4 game, let that sink in...
Truth hurts, eh Sony shill?
The haziness could be an artistic decision like starfield's hazy areas. People disabled it on pc immediately but since then have come to realize that disabling it changes the overall look for the game, and not always for the better. We have now had 6 different lighting preset mods in starfield because people cant make up their minds. i stuck with the original and dont regret it.
To be fair, that weird grey haze really fucks up the presentation of Forza.Really disappointed by some of my PS bros in this thread. Especially demigod and flutta. LOL reactions. Memes. i thought the median age on this forum was 33??
Forza's lighting is a clear leap over the harsh bright gamish lighting on the GT7 track. Other comparisons might tell a different story but i watched the first half of the video and its insane that this is even being debated. The light bounce on the track and trees alone is leagues ahead of the flat and dull light bounce in GT7. The washed out look is a personal preference but the technical leap is clearly there for everyone to see. And this is with ray tracing on track which you dont even get on GT7. Honestly what are we doing here?
At least insane metal is engaging in actual discussion. really disappointed right now because im being forced to agree with adamsapple of all people lmao. You go adam, your comparisons are on point and forza clearly looks better. you have my axe.
We PC now!
Wecome to the promised land lads.
Does this mean we can start comparing it to ACC and modded Assetto Corsa then? Because I'm not sure people are ready for that discussion.
I think the bright, harsh light in GT7 is exactly what makes it look more realistic compared to the gamey light in Forza, which has always been the same, now just using different tech. At times GT7 looks photorealistic while playing, and I've said this before. Yes, FM is has more technical edge and that's not debatable, but I do think GT7 looks and feels much more real to my eyes.Really disappointed by some of my PS bros in this thread. Especially demigod and flutta. LOL reactions. Memes. i thought the median age on this forum was 33??
Forza's lighting is a clear leap over the harsh bright gamish lighting on the GT7 track. Other comparisons might tell a different story but i watched the first half of the video and its insane that this is even being debated. The light bounce on the track and trees alone is leagues ahead of the flat and dull light bounce in GT7. The washed out look is a personal preference but the technical leap is clearly there for everyone to see. And this is with ray tracing on track which you dont even get on GT7. Honestly what are we doing here?
At least insane metal is engaging in actual discussion. really disappointed right now because im being forced to agree with adamsapple of all people lmao. You go adam, your comparisons are on point and forza clearly looks better. you have my axe.
GT7 too colourful and contrasty for you? Turn the colour and contrast down.GT looks like you’re viewing the world through Polaroid glasses
Contrast is way to high, but colours pop and that’s normally what people like as it give the illusion of it being better. When in fact in reality sunlight mutes colours depending on direction & how bright it is. (Overcast etc…)
We had this back and forth when driveclub came out & now we repeat ourselves
adamsapple since you're now going to be utilising PC material and footage in your future endeavors, here's your new avatar, complete with black leather jacket:
I dunno.. IGN could've atleast done a better job in the comparison.
GT7 has a 4K 90~fps mode I wonder how good a GT8 would look if they aimed for 1440p and 60fps
GT looks like you’re viewing the world through Polaroid glasses
Contrast is way to high, but colours pop and that’s normally what people like as it give the illusion of it being better. When in fact in reality sunlight mutes colours depending on direction & how bright it is. (Overcast etc…)
We had this back and forth when driveclub came out & now we repeat ourselves
I am looking exclusively at the mid day footage in the OP, and GT7 is just too bright and lacks proper light bounce. Look at the track and how it feels like a cardboard cutout. Same with trees. Its like there is no light bounce on the trees or even the cars. they look flat in comparison even if they have better materials.I think the bright, harsh light in GT7 is exactly what makes it look more realistic compared to the gamey light in Forza, which has always been the same, now just using different tech. At times GT7 looks photorealistic while playing, and I've said this before. Yes, FM is has more technical edge and that's not debatable, but I do think GT7 looks and feels much more real to my eyes.
Moreover the materials and car paint in GT look/feel like metal whereas in Forza it still has that plasticky look and feel the series has always had.
All the pictures I've posted are from video(s) with Series X running in Performance RT mode.
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Can't say I agree at all. It looks and feels just right to me.I am looking exclusively at the mid day footage in the OP, and GT7 is just too bright and lacks proper light bounce. Look at the track and how it feels like a cardboard cutout. Same with trees. Its like there is no light bounce on the trees or even the cars. they look flat in comparison even if they have better materials.
I played GT sports for hours so i know how well it can look under the right lighting conditions. Especially cloudy and especially at night with bright lights. The nascar level is insane. So other comparisons with forza might tell a difference story.
Cloudy/rainy/dark weather looks just like that, dull. It's why it looks better.Didn’t watch the second video but that first video makes GT7 look extremely flat and dull. Also sounds like doodoo and I see bumper car physics is still a thing in GT. It used to be my favorite gaming franchise but I haven’t dived deep into GT since the PS2 days. Guess I haven’t been missing much.
It may be realistic to the naked eye but I think we're used to seeing things through a colour corrected process on TV. For example this broadcast from the last F1 race on a bright day shows plenty of saturated colour and nobody thinks it looks unrealistic when watching it.
All the pictures I've posted are from video(s) with Series X running in Performance RT mode.
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Xbox fans now saying series s is holding back next gen, never thought I would see thatand one of these is also a Series S game, and we all know the effect that has on games on the green side.
I think when GT8 comes out with a way better lighting model, and they do side by side comparisons, you will see what Im referring to. What im seeing here is basically what i saw when John did the Forza 7 vs Forza 8 comparisons earlier this year. Just a stark difference in light bounce.Can't say I agree at all. It looks and feels just right to me.
And in many occasions it just looks right, like in overcast days in Tokyo or dawn in the desert. It looks superb, because it looks right.
What you on about Snake? is this your first time being on NeoGaf? LOL and Memes is the bread and butter of this place old man..Really disappointed by some of my PS bros in this thread. Especially demigod and flutta. LOL reactions. Memes. i thought the median age on this forum was 33??
Forza's lighting is a clear leap over the harsh bright gamish lighting on the GT7 track. Other comparisons might tell a different story but i watched the first half of the video and its insane that this is even being debated. The light bounce on the track and trees alone is leagues ahead of the flat and dull light bounce in GT7. The washed out look is a personal preference but the technical leap is clearly there for everyone to see. And this is with ray tracing on track which you dont even get on GT7. Honestly what are we doing here?
At least insane metal is engaging in actual discussion. really disappointed right now because im being forced to agree with adamsapple of all people lmao. You go adam, your comparisons are on point and forza clearly looks better. you have my axe.
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Forza and GT have always historically been like this.People know what looks natural to the eye and what doesn't. GT7 learly has more realistic and natural look to the lighting and colour palette. RT is nice to have but the art is extremely important
Depends on how much water is on the track. The above video the weather is different even though it’s raining.Would a wet track really have that level of reflection? Aren’t track surfaces designed to not reflect like that? You can see on GT7 footage that there is plenty of reflections outside of the track.
I could be wrong, but It just looks overdone to me.
memes are fine. its just that adamsapple is taking the time to post actual comparisons and getting mass LOL reactions from team sony (i counted 8 on that one post) which is not a good look for us lmaoWhat you on about Snake? is this your first time being on NeoGaf? LOL and Memes is the bread and butter of this place old man..
Regarding Forza and the pictures Adam posted that i replied to didn't make Forza look better then GT7 and it's his own fault for posting those cartoony looking pictures not mine. Also get down from your high horse and take that axe of yours and shove it somewhere. I kid i Kid
My brother is a big Xbox fan and after trying GT7 in VR has said the same thing that Xbox should be focusing on VR. They have a great library for it too especially right now. Flight Sim in VR?GT7 takes it but also gets bonus points for being playable on PSVR2. Where's the Xbox vr option?
Dude was using PC footage???adamsapple since you're now going to be utilising PC material and footage in your future endeavors, here's your new avatar, complete with black leather jacket:
Forza in this image looks like a plastic toy Mattel hot wheels game lol.The reflections etc are objectively better, the lighting is dynamic and is doing much more on the Forza end. GT looks great too, but Motorsport looks better here, GT probably has some advantages like better details in AI cars but we'll find out more with DF style comparisons later on.