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Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon (Wii) Pre-Order Bonus CD and Dual-Boxart
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cosmicblizzard
Banned
Shirokun said:
I mean the story was depressing. I can't really call the game itself disappointing since I wasn't expecting much from the gameplay in the first place. If you want a good "game", I wouldn't recommend it but if you want a legitimately moving experience, then go for it.
radiantdreamer
Member
Gave the music a listen... and it's nice... but kinda too melancholic to listen to on its own. I can see how it works great for the game itself, but it sounds way too depressing to listen to while doing art or something...
Probably won't end up buying it in the end. I'll give it another go. Might change my mind...
Probably won't end up buying it in the end. I'll give it another go. Might change my mind...
radiantdreamer
Member
zigg said:
You could be right! Bought the game off a GAF member, can't wait to receive it!
Might reconsider buying the soundtrack again later.
I just beat this game. It only took about 11 hours to finish. I wasn't in a rush either; I only missed about 3 memory items. And holy crap, the only other game that I've ever felt so polarized about was Flower Sun and Rain. I really wanted to love this game. The music was absolutely mesmerizing, the art direction was fantastic (I really love the skybox in this game), the story was moving for the most part (I'll touch on this later), the graphics were great and all in all, the game was just a pleasure to see and hear. It's just a shame that the game was an absolute chore to play through. The first half of the game wasn't too bad. Sure, the controls were really clunky and combat was for the most part, repetitive and terrible, but the story and the atmosphere was enough for me to trudge on through. Once you hit the second half of the game is where things start to go wrong. The environment became tedious with long stretches of corridors and hallways where you did absolutely nothing. The second half of the game focused more on combat which is really dumb on Tri-Crescendo's part since the combat system in this game was really poorly-implemented. It's like they followed "Bad Game Designs 101" down to the dot. And don't get me started on the back-tracking. The story did a complete 180 once it started to focus on
which is a shame because the game made it look like
. The only thing that stayed consistent in quality in the game were the memories. Some of them were really touching and unnerving and to be honest, finding them was the only reason I bothered to finish the second half of the game. And this is a downright shame too, because the atmosphere was just oozing with style in this game. Was the game worth playing? Absolutely. The game was moving and it left some poignant messages. But it's not a game I'd ever play through again. The actual gameplay itself was tedious, boring, and an absolute chore to play through. So for any Gaffers here still on the fence about the game, I'd say go for it. If you have the tolerance to trudge through really poor game mechanics, you'll be rewarded with a poignant and moving experience.
Shin and the Glass-Cage project
Ren was going to be the focal point of the story when in reality, she hardly played any significant role in the plot besides playing the damsel in distress
i discovered that there is a japanese/english voice option
i started the game without knowing about this option so i played a part only in english. now i will probably finish the game in english and play it again in japanese because the english voice acting grew on me (it is really good imo)
i started the game without knowing about this option so i played a part only in english. now i will probably finish the game in english and play it again in japanese because the english voice acting grew on me (it is really good imo)
radiantdreamer
Member
This is what I'm finding with this game:
Oh I can start a fire here.
*save*
Hmm... maybe I'll do this next thing first before calling it quits.
*resume*
Rinse repeat.
So good.
Is it just me? Or is there much less music in the game than what the soundtracks seem to imply? I've heard all of like 5 songs up to the
area.
Oh I can start a fire here.
*save*
Hmm... maybe I'll do this next thing first before calling it quits.
*resume*
Rinse repeat.
So good.
Is it just me? Or is there much less music in the game than what the soundtracks seem to imply? I've heard all of like 5 songs up to the
amusement park
SlipperySlope
Banned
Just beat the game.
I'll just get this one point out of the way. The main enemy was an emo bitch.
Alright, now that that's out of the way, one part that kind of confused me. Event Movie 37, where the narrator talks about traveling together, and after some years, he's alone again. He dies alone.
Then after that Event Movie 38 kicks in. That's where Seto and Ren leave together looking for survivors.
So 37 is just a premonition clip about what's going to happen later. But the only other clip comes right after that, where they look for survivors. Shouldn't those two clips have been reversed?
38 taken in and of itself leaves them with some hope, but then you remember that the clip just prior dashes that hope and Seto dies alone.
That's just fucked up. Anyway, I think those two movies should have been reversed to give the story the last bit of linearity.
It's also pretty depressing that Ren is the only alive person Seto meets during the game.
And if they're truly the last two people alive, what would Shin's plan accomplish?
Alright, now that that's out of the way, one part that kind of confused me. Event Movie 37, where the narrator talks about traveling together, and after some years, he's alone again. He dies alone.
Then after that Event Movie 38 kicks in. That's where Seto and Ren leave together looking for survivors.
So 37 is just a premonition clip about what's going to happen later. But the only other clip comes right after that, where they look for survivors. Shouldn't those two clips have been reversed?
38 taken in and of itself leaves them with some hope, but then you remember that the clip just prior dashes that hope and Seto dies alone.
That's just fucked up. Anyway, I think those two movies should have been reversed to give the story the last bit of linearity.
It's also pretty depressing that Ren is the only alive person Seto meets during the game.
And if they're truly the last two people alive, what would Shin's plan accomplish?
cosmicblizzard
Banned
SlipperySlope said:
I'm kind of torn on that. On one hand,
it's a total dick move finding out there would be no happy ending just as you started to get your hopes up. It's also a bit of a motivation killer happening prior to the final boss.
On the other hand, the fact all we get is one simple sentence about the fate of Seto (and ultimately, humanity) is incredibly effective and serves as a reminder that this is not a happy game.
As for Shin's plan, I think it was just meant as a quick follow up in case he missed anyone. He kind of went overboard though since he mostly accomplished his goal already.
On the other hand, the fact all we get is one simple sentence about the fate of Seto (and ultimately, humanity) is incredibly effective and serves as a reminder that this is not a happy game.
As for Shin's plan, I think it was just meant as a quick follow up in case he missed anyone. He kind of went overboard though since he mostly accomplished his goal already.
Night_Trekker
Member
I intend to pick this up, but every time I see a copy it's pretty expensive. I would have expected the price to fall by now.
SlipperySlope
Banned
cosmicblizzard said:
I watched movie 37 a few more times, and also a few other movies, and 37 is a total mood killer.
I also watched the movie where the dead girl talks to Seto on top of the damn. Where you first hear of how the end of the world happened. I didn't realize that at the time. Too much was happening in that scene and I didn't replay it on the playthrough. But the dead girl kept saying over and over what would happen if Seto and Ren ended up hating each other? I guess that was also some premonition perhaps, but not one I saw until I replayed the clip after finishing the game.
What I don't know then is if Ren dies, or if she leaves Seto. He becomes alone somehow, but the game never tells us how.
Anyway, I need to switch to some happier thoughts. This game is a lot more depressing than I thought it would be going in.
I also watched the movie where the dead girl talks to Seto on top of the damn. Where you first hear of how the end of the world happened. I didn't realize that at the time. Too much was happening in that scene and I didn't replay it on the playthrough. But the dead girl kept saying over and over what would happen if Seto and Ren ended up hating each other? I guess that was also some premonition perhaps, but not one I saw until I replayed the clip after finishing the game.
What I don't know then is if Ren dies, or if she leaves Seto. He becomes alone somehow, but the game never tells us how.
Anyway, I need to switch to some happier thoughts. This game is a lot more depressing than I thought it would be going in.
Fimbulvetr
Member
SlipperySlope said:
Doesn't the game confirm other survivors with that radio thing?
SlipperySlope
Banned
Fimbulvetr said:
On second thought, you're right.
But from the narrative, it doesn't seem that Seto ever meets any of them. He just stays with the girl for a few years, than she either leaves or dies. Then he dies alone.
Fuck that's depressing.
Fuck that's depressing.
SlipperySlope
Banned
kinggroin said:
Gotta admit that part surprised me. But then again, it didn't.
SlipperySlope
Banned
Mafro said:
Money is one thing I didn't have an issue with in this game. I ended up with like 200K, and never sold a single thing. Bought a few things to replace broken items, and that was it.
Edit - Sorry for the triple post. I was responding to people while I read through the thread. Anyway, I finished reading through the thread. Not very many people on GAF played this game. It's unfortunate.
Edit 2 - You know what's really weird about this game? I normally really like depressing things. I like to bask in it for some reason. Things like Silent Hill: Shattered Memories (I can also listen to Acceptance from that game all day long), depressing music (usually of the harder variety, like Fade to Black. Last Kiss is also good. "So Long" by Everlast. One. Mad World. Can't stand Joy Division though.).
But this game... is just too much. When I beat it, I was just in a different mood. Not a good one.
Edit 3 - If you want to listen to So Long, don't view the version on YouTube. Way too much was cut out. Get the album version. (it's on End of Days soundtrack). Not to mention the video has absolutely nothing to do with the lyrics.
radiantdreamer
Member
So I finally beat this game, after having been playing it over a month. 16.5hrs, and that's with exploring every nook and cranny I could find.
The memories were worth the search. The characters, while make some pretty weird decisions, were really well done. The designs really fit the roles.
Soundtrack was great, when there was music. Which didn't happen often enough IMO.
Combat system sucked, but we all knew that. It's not too bad once you learn how to fight within the limits of it.
Great game. I do recommend you get it now if you are itching, because it's sold out at the gamestops I've looked, shows it's not in stock online, and has gone up in price slightly on ebay.
The memories were worth the search. The characters, while make some pretty weird decisions, were really well done. The designs really fit the roles.
Soundtrack was great, when there was music. Which didn't happen often enough IMO.
Combat system sucked, but we all knew that. It's not too bad once you learn how to fight within the limits of it.
Great game. I do recommend you get it now if you are itching, because it's sold out at the gamestops I've looked, shows it's not in stock online, and has gone up in price slightly on ebay.
whooooo~!!!
I have arrived to the party!!
Im like 2 hours in and the game is pretty cool!! reminds me a lot of the Silent Hill wii game.
the controls are pretty janky, but I have played thru Flower Sun & Rain! I embrace the jank!!
that's how I got thru Deadly Premonition, and that game is like one of my favorite in the year!!
I hope this game is good too!!
I have arrived to the party!!
Im like 2 hours in and the game is pretty cool!! reminds me a lot of the Silent Hill wii game.
the controls are pretty janky, but I have played thru Flower Sun & Rain! I embrace the jank!!
that's how I got thru Deadly Premonition, and that game is like one of my favorite in the year!!
I hope this game is good too!!
FrostuTheNinja
Member
So, I haven't picked up this game yet and was wondering...
Is it rad?
Sell it to me, GAF!
Is it rad?
Sell it to me, GAF!
cosmicblizzard
Banned
FrostuTheNinja said:
Have you noticed that you're too happy lately? Need something to remind you the world sucks?
Well this game is for you! One of the most depressing experiences in the entire medium that evokes feelings of isolation and other things that are sad.
...Combat sucks though.
FrostuTheNinja said:
Read this thread, there're a lot of posts that offer detailed reviews on the game, I personally think Jangeroo's review nails it. I also think it's safe to say that the general consensus is that it's a game worthy of going through once due solely on the strength of its presentation, music, and story; the gameplay is inoffensive at best and tedious at worst. The game's second half suffers significantly from repetition, so be warned.
Bending_Unit_22
Member
Oh yeah, I finally got this game also (from an Amazon sale I think). Pretty cool for the 2 or 3 hours I put into it. I just don't like the "walk a few yards, cut scene, go a few yards over there, cut scene" dynamic it has so far.
Pol Wespol
Neo Member
Was surprised to see this for $20 new at Gamestop today. Picked it up as I've been dying to play this and can't wait. These kind of atmospheric experiences are exactly my thing.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
I have always wanted to play this game, and the time is finally here! Picked this up for $20 today at Gamestop, seems like a good price to jump in considering the reviews and GAF's reaction. Only problem is I'm just really bummed out with how Epic Mickey turned out so I'm a little bit scared that this is more of the same (Great Music, Great Atmosphere, Great Idea.... horribly executed and horrible gameplay). Don't know if I can survive another game like that right now. :lol
Fantastical
Death Prophet
$20 new? Need to pick this baby up.Pol Wespol said:
TheOctagon
Member
Skiesofwonder said:
I hate to tell you this...
BentMyWookiee
Member
I just finished the game a couple of days ago.
Overall it was an enjoyable experience, but a flawed game. My biggest problem with Fragile Dreams is that after about half way through, the exploration just seems to turn into walking down long bland cooridors or through boring huge rooms. The environments in the earlier half of the game were much better and I really enjoyed just taking my time and looking around.
I still enjoyed the game though, but I agree with some of the others in this thread in that I can't see myself playing the game again. I was just left with a feeling of emptiness at the end. I thought I wasn't going to be, but it happened instantly when
Also I was surprised by how
Overall it was an enjoyable experience, but a flawed game. My biggest problem with Fragile Dreams is that after about half way through, the exploration just seems to turn into walking down long bland cooridors or through boring huge rooms. The environments in the earlier half of the game were much better and I really enjoyed just taking my time and looking around.
I still enjoyed the game though, but I agree with some of the others in this thread in that I can't see myself playing the game again. I was just left with a feeling of emptiness at the end. I thought I wasn't going to be, but it happened instantly when
at the end when Seto eventually ends up on his own again. I know its not explained what exactly happens to Ren, but in my mind I just assumed that she died. Though maybe I'll try watching movie 37 again and see if I still get that impression.
Also I was surprised by how
much PF "dying" affected me. I didn't think I was that attached to the PF, but it made me feel pretty sad.
Mockingbird
Member
Finally started playing this -- though I bought it at launch. Man the controls and combat aren't very good at all. The graphics and production value is very good though. about 1.5 - 2 hours in. I'll continue playing and hope to finish it by the end of the week.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Mockingbird said:
The game has superb atmosphere and a nice story! Well worth putting up with the somewhat clunky controls in my opinion. ^^
I definitely agree-- there's something strangely charming about the game that really makes you want to explore the world and experience the story. IMO the controls aren't too bad, I've certainly played survival horror games with worse ones lol. The only thing I didn't like was the random weapon breaking.
Other than that the game is a strange mishmash of genres and gameplay ideas that's pretty interesting, even if it doesn't always work. I loved the soundtrack and some of the environments, as well as the RE4-style inventory system and the rudimentary leveling system. Even so, the game really clicked with me and I really enjoyed it.
Other than that the game is a strange mishmash of genres and gameplay ideas that's pretty interesting, even if it doesn't always work. I loved the soundtrack and some of the environments, as well as the RE4-style inventory system and the rudimentary leveling system. Even so, the game really clicked with me and I really enjoyed it.
Cygnus X-1
Member
atre324 said:
Yeah, I second that.
Mockingbird
Member
How many hours long is this game btw?
I'm not really sure. I actually just finished it tonite and logged around 30... but I sort of took my time with and and zoned out as I listened to podcasts and whatnot.
So yeah, I finally slogged my way til the end. Really loved the graphics and the atmosphere, but it is a very flawed game, painfully so at times. The combat and just general design are simply archaic. But I guess I still enjoyed it. Now I'm gonna go play that marble rolling game...
So yeah, I finally slogged my way til the end. Really loved the graphics and the atmosphere, but it is a very flawed game, painfully so at times. The combat and just general design are simply archaic. But I guess I still enjoyed it. Now I'm gonna go play that marble rolling game...
SlipperySlope
Banned
It's not a long game. Perhaps 8-10 hours? I forgot. It has superb atmosphere and a good story. And fantastic stylized visuals. Some of the backgrounds are breathtaking. And as noted, yes, clunky controls. Although its biggest problem is the weapons breaking.
Definitely worth it to play through to the end. I'm tempted to spoil the ending, but I won't. You'll have to see it for yourself.
Edit - I'd like to get updates on your progress. I'm weird that way There was a guy in an LTTP Shattered Memories thread that didn't give updates.
Definitely worth it to play through to the end. I'm tempted to spoil the ending, but I won't. You'll have to see it for yourself.
Edit - I'd like to get updates on your progress. I'm weird that way
There was a guy in an LTTP Shattered Memories thread that didn't give updates.This is one of my favorite games on the wii. I love the atmosphere and the story. So gloomy and desperate...
The gameplay itself is not that great, but to me, this is just like Silent Hill, where the gameplay is not the focus, but the experience, hehe
And the graphics were pretty good. This game's story got me moved, which is more than i can say for most games in this generation.
I don't remember much about the music though. One thing i really remember where the little stories told when you found something that belonged to someone. There was one about a girl loving a guy that loved flowers that was really touching. It almost put me to tears.
Anyway, it's one of my favorite games in this generation.
The gameplay itself is not that great, but to me, this is just like Silent Hill, where the gameplay is not the focus, but the experience, hehe
And the graphics were pretty good. This game's story got me moved, which is more than i can say for most games in this generation.
I don't remember much about the music though. One thing i really remember where the little stories told when you found something that belonged to someone. There was one about a girl loving a guy that loved flowers that was really touching. It almost put me to tears.
Anyway, it's one of my favorite games in this generation.