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"FREE" 1 Year ECA membership... for the price of YOUR SOUL. Read if you applied.
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Little Green Yoda
Member
LeCapitan said:I signed up back in October, and after reading this I tried to log into my account to see what was up. I saved the registration email they sent me from when I signed up so I just pulled that up and tried to log in. The problem is the username/password combos I tried haven't worked, and I get this from the "Forgot your password" page:
It seems they deleted me
Don't believe it. I had the same problem. I searched through my inbox to find my activation email and reclicked the validation link to change my password. Account still active.
ShockingAlberto
Member
Just got this same e-mail.elrechazao said:
YuriLowell
Member
What was the email everyone sent to them? I want to email but dunno what to say
elrechazado
Banned
Wag said:
Their terms of use actually says they will keep trying different expiration dates on an expired card until one goes through.
Number 5.
http://www.theeca.com/terms
Neuromancer
Member
StoOgE said:
This is just about the craziest thing I have ever read in my life. :lol
Calavera520
Member
seems like what they are doing is wildly illegal.
In your emails to them simply mention the better businesses bureau, they'll move then. A mere mention of reporting to the bureau gets them in line. I managed to get Comcast (back when i used those vampires) to fix something on a Saturday afternoon and then a sunday evening following persistent problems simply because I threatened to report their lack of effectiveness in repairing the service i pay for.
In your emails to them simply mention the better businesses bureau, they'll move then. A mere mention of reporting to the bureau gets them in line. I managed to get Comcast (back when i used those vampires) to fix something on a Saturday afternoon and then a sunday evening following persistent problems simply because I threatened to report their lack of effectiveness in repairing the service i pay for.
Neuromancer
Member
GAF vs the ECA. Who'd have thought? :lol
Jazzy Network
Member
I think I'm just gonna cancel my CC that it is tied to. I had been thinking about it for a while now since I no longer have a bank account with BoA.
darkressurection
Banned
Good thing I will be canceling my debit card soon anyway, this is fucking ridiculous.
RedNumberFive
Banned
angelfly said:
Your ECA "staff" ladies and gentleman...
StopMakingSense
Member
Jazzy Network said:
Just report your card lost. Closing the account will ding your credit score, especially so if it is an old account. Just make sure the number is different on the card you get from BoA.
Seriously, why don't we just get a little crazy and get their forums shut down? I'm sure GAF can mount an assault unlike any they have ever seen. Rage filled threads of betrayal. Hundreds of posts and topics.
I mean, if there's one thing I know GAF can do, it's make them look like they are hiding something. Get them to shut it down!
I mean, if there's one thing I know GAF can do, it's make them look like they are hiding something. Get them to shut it down!
I AM JOHN! said:
Oh right, I think that is how I ended up with a membership. The free shirt came later. I never gave them a CC either. Under CC number it just says -------. Like I posted before though, my membership is still active even though its been over a year and I never paid them though
Ok, I talked to a lawyer friend of mine briefly (I am bored + angry).
The best course of action is to take this to arbitration and ask that they provide proof of what they are doing and how the money is being spent. They are a not-for-profit which means they can't carry over any profits from year to year and have to spend a certain % on the objectives on their website. If they are a scam and are just pocketing the "dues" then they could be completely fucked and have an attorney general on their ass and people in jail. Essentially claim that they are a fraudulent organization and make them prove that they are not.
If they are a legit charity and I have no case, the worst it will cost me is 250 dollars for the filing fee and a 6 pack of beer for my buddy for his time on the case.
I also suggest everyone write letters to the vendors that they have relationships with. Buy.com, amazon.com, etc and let them know what his happening. Part of what is giving these guys legitimacy is the membership benefits that they have. We may be able to get amazon to go after them for continuing to list amazon's name on the website.
The best course of action is to take this to arbitration and ask that they provide proof of what they are doing and how the money is being spent. They are a not-for-profit which means they can't carry over any profits from year to year and have to spend a certain % on the objectives on their website. If they are a scam and are just pocketing the "dues" then they could be completely fucked and have an attorney general on their ass and people in jail. Essentially claim that they are a fraudulent organization and make them prove that they are not.
If they are a legit charity and I have no case, the worst it will cost me is 250 dollars for the filing fee and a 6 pack of beer for my buddy for his time on the case.
I also suggest everyone write letters to the vendors that they have relationships with. Buy.com, amazon.com, etc and let them know what his happening. Part of what is giving these guys legitimacy is the membership benefits that they have. We may be able to get amazon to go after them for continuing to list amazon's name on the website.
darkressurection
Banned
Obviously we need to send an ambassador from GAF to go to /b/ and have them help mount a large scale assault on the ECAMrPliskin said:
Neuromancer
Member
If he doesn't use it he may as well get rid of it. I don't think having open cards in your name you never make payments helps your credit score either.StopMakingSense said:
RedNumberFive
Banned
StoOgE said:
I will gladly donate the $20 that would have gone to the ECA to your cause.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
What does the ECA even do anyway? They don't brag about any of their accomplisments so they likely don't have any, and when asked directly they tend to respond with things like "its too important to reveal!". :/StoOgE said:
elrechazado
Banned
As fun as those adventures are sometimes, let's not.MrPliskin said:
Neuromancer said:
Incorrect, there is no history of balances and payments on your credit report. Only a history of whether your account was in good standing or past due on any given month. Average age of accounts, however, is a factor in your credit score*.
*Speaking only of your FICO score, which doesn't include anything not found on your credit report. Internal bank scorecards based on information they have on you as a customer are different
grandjedi6 said:
right, but if you claim 75,000 dollars in damages in arbitration and claim they are a fraudulent organization they are going to have to come up with something or eat the loss.
It is essentially a way to make them prove they do what they claim to do and show where the money is going. Giving ambiguous answers in arbitration isn't going to get them very far.
AtomskEater
Member
Well, I feel really foolish for having signed up for this. Lesson learned, do thorough research, especially if a free offer asks for credit card info. >_<
Shadowlink
Member
This! Hope this gets resolved soon.AtomskEater said:
YuriLowell
Member
Plus onetenritsu said:
AtomskEater said:
You can always use a virtual card number, which most issuing banks offer and allow you to set a limit.
I've heard horror stories about banks allowing charges beyond the limit, but it always worked fine for me back in the days of Gratis giving away free stuff in exchange for trial offers
Prezhulio said:
I think we've seen that, so far, that isn't really a possibility :lol
I just called my bank and reported my card lost, new one en route. Had the old card shut down so no charges can go through.
That said, I do think everyone should at least register for the forums and continue to address the issue. If more people voice their concern with their practices, it'll look better should any legal matters come to fruition.
http://forums.theeca.com/showthread.php?t=6984
Shadowlink
Member
Can we look at what credit card we added in the site?
MrPliskin said:
Don't you guys have like 10 months to sort this out though? I'm sure they will cave and offer a better solution for canceling before then.
Shadowlink said:
Click on your e-mail address, then orders, then the order number. Mine says:
but i assume if you gave them a CC a number would be there
AtomskEater
Member
Hmm. That's definitely something I'm going to look into should this situation arise again, thanks.sangreal said:
Shadowlink
Member
All I can see is the order number.StoOgE said:
Neuromancer
Member
sangreal said:
"If your credit card balance is zero, go ahead and close as many unused accounts as you want. As long as your credit cards are balance-free, it wont hurt your credit score a bit. So call those card issuers and cut away."
"There are several arguments for closing your unused credit card accounts, however. Doing so:
* Reduces the risk of identity theft.
* Reduces your bookkeeping.
* Prevents you from abusing them.
* Puts you in control of your finances. (Dont underestimate the power of this.)"
http://www.getrichslowly.org/blog/2008/09/16/how-and-when-to-cancel-a-credit-card/
I am a major proponent of not having credit cards in your name that you never use.
elrechazado
Banned
Has anyone sent in a tip to kotaku/destructoid/joystiq etc yet? Maybe the gameblogs can pick this shit up too.
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