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GAF Games of the Year 2011 - Voting Thread - Voting's Over, Folks!
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I would think grossly undeserving games winning here each of the last ~4 years or so (probably longer but that's as far as my memory goes) proved that already.
I find it highly informative, really. It helps you immediately known whose opinion you can disregard in the future regarding the subject of games.
People with taste that matters:
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Foliorum Viridum
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True, but now we have a totally deserving game in Dark Souls and you're pushing against it.
You're holding GAF back, man!
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Deleted member 30609
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Dark Souls, guys. Dark Souls. 
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
When are the results do?
Rahxephon91
Banned
Xenoblade should win, but it won't so this was already wrong from the beginning.
GrotesqueBeauty
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Rayman Origins is going to come out on top where it belongs, I can feel it in my bones.
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Rayman Origins is going to come out on top where it belongs, I can feel it in my bones.
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I'm feeling pretty hopeful about it breaking the top 30.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Rayman Origins is going to come out on top where it belongs, I can feel it in my bones.
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No one, not even Ubisoft, gives a shit about the game :|
H_Prestige
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After looking at this thread more closely, I think it will be Portal 2 by quite a margin (seriously, the game is like on everyone's list, often around the top too) followed by Skyrim. Dark Souls has a chance for third spot but no way is it beating Portal. Which saddens me greatly, I thought GAF would have finer taste.
Of course it does. It won GAF's vote so it does, as far as GAF is concerned, still deserve the award. It's not like the game came out November and people were still high on it. The game released in June. People had plenty of time to evaluate the game. Did everyone just magically decided to hate on the game after it won GAF's goty? I don't think so.
It's just a passionate vocal minority.
Everyone has a right to disagree with the choice of goty. But to say a goty is undeserving or a sham is bullshit...if it got the most votes, it deserved it.
For example, if Modern Warfare 3 wins this year, I would disagree. But I would not discredit gaf's collective opinion.
The Librarian
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There will be nothing wrong with GAF's taste when Portal 2 is elected GotY.
FateBreaker
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Rayman Origins is going to come out on top where it belongs, I can feel it in my bones.
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I gave it my #1 Game of the Year spot. I did my part.
Haunted
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It's a two horse race between Portal and Skyrim, afaik. So you'll get your no Dark Souls wish at least.
Haunted
Member
New rule for 2012, only GAF members with 10,000 posts + can vote.
charlequin
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I already played The Stanley Parable thanks to Kabouter's inclusion of it in his list, so it's working for me!
Well. The GAF GOTY awards are calculated in an additive way: we look for a game that lots of people positively voted, taking no account for negative feedback (you can't vote against anything) and valuing volume over positioning (a game that everyone listed at #10 would beat a game that only 20% of respondents included but which they all put as #1.)
As a result, our particular mechanism is extremely friendly to popular but polarizing titles (a description that applies to various degrees to both ME2 and MGS4). If there's a game that huge swathes of GAF GOTY voters played, if half of them adored the title it'll do extremely well even if the other half loathed it.
(What I can't quite account for is GAF's tendency to hand out GOTYs to platform exclusives despite the logic that more posters have almost always had the chance to play the multiplatform stuff.)
Foliorum Viridum
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Haunted
Member
let me check the Skyrim thread real quickI say over 150 posts in the OT of the clear GOTY.
MarshMellow96
Member
I get the feeling Dark Souls is going to pull a Saints Row, with Derrick01 standing in for Ryan Davis.
This thread inspired me to pick up Ghost Trick. Good call, GAF.
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Deleted member 30609
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This warms my cold, cold heart.
Vote for thread of the year or something. This one needs people who actually play games.
cj_iwakura
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Catherine's got this. Those in front of it had terrible nightmares, and never awoke again.
Gunmonkey36
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Lol, yea that's a good idea. Lets have people who spend more time posting than playing games be the only ones who vote for GOTY.
I assume that a lot of the people who voted for three or less games fall into this category already (unless they played more than that but disliked almost all of them somehow).
GrotesqueBeauty
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It'll be a crime if it doesn't at least break the top 10. At least on GAF, of all places.
Seems like it crept into a lot of the later submissions in this thread, and often pretty high up on the list. I like to think once people were able to get over the price hurdle after it bombed they finally realized how great it actually is. Too bad it took failure at retail for the game to start getting its dues. The "lol 2D, should have been a DD" crowd can suck it.
And I salute you.
Portal 2, Deus Ex, and Skyrim top 3 would be pretty cool with me, since those were the only mainstream titles I had on my list. Dungeons of Dredmor and King of Dragon Pass are awesome but an indie PC game and an obscure old PC-turned-iOS game were not going to light up the charts here.
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Deleted member 30609
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Not that I want that rule in place, but I think there's something to be said for the people who actually participate most in the community defining the GAF GOTY more so than those who passively take it in.
Yay, making the list was worth the effort!
Now if only Ubisoft stopped being douchebags with their DRM so more people would actually be willing to check out Anno 2070
Yeah, I disagree. Some people just post less than others, even if they might be reading a lot. Doesn't make them any less a part of this community imo.
Haunted
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Geez guys, I was only joking with the 10k post thing.
For all the praise the excellent Bastion narrator got, The Stanley Parable secretly had the best narration work this year. Real talk.
Gunmonkey36
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Foliorum Viridum
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I think a good reasoning with the votes should be a MUST personally.
I always try to summarise my feelings about a game as good as I can in GOTY threads. It's often hard to articulate, but still, you should give a good reason I feel.
I always try to summarise my feelings about a game as good as I can in GOTY threads. It's often hard to articulate, but still, you should give a good reason I feel.
Exactly.
Everyone in the 10K+ club should be allowed to invalidate one vote. For example, if a poster makes a list I don't like, I can PM a mod and have his or her post permanently deleted.
It would make for an interesting end to NeoGAF, at least.
In that scenario, being a mod myself is probably the only thing standing between my vote and deletion.
Gunmonkey36
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The insanity that would ensue would be magical.
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Deleted member 30609
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In no way am I suggesting that anything like this actually take place. Let me make that clear. I like that everyone has a vote.
All I'm saying is that when I post here, I usually see a pretty huge range or voices on a consistent basis. There are people I come to recognize putting effort into articulating themselves all year round. I love that. That's why I post on GAF. So, when it comes time to vote, I kind of have to take the results with a grain of salt. The final tally doesn't represent the GAF that I interact with on a day-to-day basis. And maybe that's appropriate, it's just not the list I'd find most interesting, because it includes those who don't put any effort into articulating themselves. I don't know who they are. They could be awesome, they're just not GAF to me.
Again, I'm not saying the voting should be changed. The current system works because it's a super set of the people I'm interested in. I can just sift through and find recognizable faces and see what they voted for. That's cool!
All I'm saying is that when I post here, I usually see a pretty huge range or voices on a consistent basis. There are people I come to recognize putting effort into articulating themselves all year round. I love that. That's why I post on GAF. So, when it comes time to vote, I kind of have to take the results with a grain of salt. The final tally doesn't represent the GAF that I interact with on a day-to-day basis. And maybe that's appropriate, it's just not the list I'd find most interesting, because it includes those who don't put any effort into articulating themselves. I don't know who they are. They could be awesome, they're just not GAF to me.
Again, I'm not saying the voting should be changed. The current system works because it's a super set of the people I'm interested in. I can just sift through and find recognizable faces and see what they voted for. That's cool!
rollingstart
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yeah, The Stanley Parable is very clever. I paraded it around in the Souce Mod thread back when it was released, and later someone else made a thread. It's a game everyone should play, and it's ostensibly free, though I can't remember if source mods can be played without HL2 these days.
Research and Development is another source/HL2 mod from a few years back that's fantastic. Almost like telling Half-Life 2 using Portal's puzzle gameplay.
personally I post more when I'm busy doing work and can alt+tab over to gaf. if/when I have a lot of free time, I try to spend that time playing video games. but I have the luxury of being able to work and dick around online at the same time.
Gunmonkey36
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Mhm, it would be interesting, but tedious for whoever does the tallying each year to break down the thread results into different categories.
Obviously there would be the overall vote.
Then they could do the GOTY for just the 10k+ posters.
And perhaps GOTY without J-Members and/or what it would be with only J-member votes.
Yeah, I can see your point there.
On another note, I'm pretty pleasantly surprised this year with the quality of the lists. I may not necessarily agree with all of them, or even most of them, but at least there are many posters who put in more effort than just listing ten titles. So many people took effort to explain their choices, which actually made the voting thread fun to read. Hopefully even more people will choose to do so next year.
Riposte
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Some random numbers: 95% of GAF has poor, unrefined overall taste (naturally). 1-2% of GAF has both great and wide taste. The only votes which matter in my book are from posters I like, with well supported lists. This whole process is just an excuse for me to gauge the taste of other posters and also let posters judge my taste for their own opinions. That and revel in the celebration of good games with lists I find agreeable.
Any "voter's choice" GotY seriously doesn't matter and NeoGAF is no exception. You'd have to have a very distorted outlook on the arts/entertainment to think it does.
If anything I'd like to see Dark Souls win because it would be unexpected. I could say the same thing for games I didn't like. Like Deus Ex: Human Revolution is not a very good game and isn't deserving a 15th spot let alone a 1st, but it would be an interesting win.
EDIT: In fact if I do the (non-)math in my head of lists that mattered to me the GotY of "GoodGAF" is either Hard Corps: Uprising, Akai Katana, or Muchi Muchi Pork/Pink Sweets. (I think my vote is the one that messes up the latter two lol. Completely unfair since I played neither.) None of which can possibly get higher than 20th place in the overall "NormalGAF" list.
Any "voter's choice" GotY seriously doesn't matter and NeoGAF is no exception. You'd have to have a very distorted outlook on the arts/entertainment to think it does.
If anything I'd like to see Dark Souls win because it would be unexpected. I could say the same thing for games I didn't like. Like Deus Ex: Human Revolution is not a very good game and isn't deserving a 15th spot let alone a 1st, but it would be an interesting win.
EDIT: In fact if I do the (non-)math in my head of lists that mattered to me the GotY of "GoodGAF" is either Hard Corps: Uprising, Akai Katana, or Muchi Muchi Pork/Pink Sweets. (I think my vote is the one that messes up the latter two lol. Completely unfair since I played neither.) None of which can possibly get higher than 20th place in the overall "NormalGAF" list.
jim-jam bongs
Member
I'm in the same boat as Rez. The best thing to come out of these threads are actually the similarity stats, last year I started paying more attention to several posters because of how closely our tastes aligned. Not that I exclusively pay attention to those posters of course, but if they recommend something I can feel confident in giving their opinion more weight than a random.
EmCeeGramr
Member
the best way to determine goty is to find a champion for each title in the top 10 voted for, and drop them all on an island. last one alive seizes GOTY for the game of their favor, but they must stay on the island for the rest of their lives and defend themselves to keep another from claiming victory for their game of choice. Good Posters™ can send them weapons or pray to the blood god of their choosing for protection in battle.
simple.
simple.
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