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[Ezquimacore]

"hello guys this is John, the game runs at 6k and 60 fps, buy it and aloy is cute too"

 

[Chiggs]

^^^^^^^^^^^
“Lavish, lush, rich, and bespoke”

 

[Sinthor]

You all are killing me with these mockups. Just too funny! Amazing how many talented people there are that can produce such things so quickly too! Now, if we could see a re-do of the game trailer but with THIS character model...THAT would be hilarious and amazing.

 

[Dacon]

She’s not a super model no, and that’s just fine.

Would love to see how the wives of many members on NeoGAF look like, it would be an incredibly interesting thread.

The lady they modeled her after is beautiful, but the weird Uncanny Valley that Guerilla Games' character live in makes her look strange.

I never understood this argument. I just assume it was some light hearted trolling.
Looks like an actual flesh & blood woman.

What does that even mean? What looks off about her?

Look at the way her face blows up whenever she's talking. Not to mention she strangely looks like a less attractive version of the woman they modelled her after. If she wasn't specifically modeled after a real life woman who is very beautiful I think there'd be less of this.

I don't think they did it on purpose mind you, GG just has some weird issues with animating and modeling faces. The first Horizon had this problem big time whenever people were talking to Aloy. It was like watching manikins talk to each other. The faces look better here, but they still all look fucking weird.

 

[Krappadizzle]

You all are killing me with these mockups. Just too funny! Amazing how many talented people there are that can produce such things so quickly too! Now, if we could see a re-do of the game trailer but with THIS character model...THAT would be hilarious and amazing.

Just go to a Wal-Mart on Black Friday in the South and you'll see plenty of women that look just like that battling for survival.

 

[Sinthor]

I guess he would know which games we should be masturbating to since he was bragging about playing AO games earlier too.

I don’t understand why this is controversial. I really don’t. She’s a little chubby in the face. That’s true. Chubbier than the first game? Yes. It’s obviously intentional. It couldn’t possibly be her age “showing” when you take Dr. Sobeck into consideration. The devs made the conscious choice to make her face a little chubbier. Talking about it isn’t sexist or insensitive because she’s not real. Will it make the game less fun? No. It will probably make the cutscenes a little funnier than they need to be. If that sentiment makes you feel uncomfortable than.. I don’t know.. grow up? I’m not going to let her looks dissuade me from buying the game, but I’m also not going to pretend like I don’t prefer my video game characters, men and women, to be beautiful.

I don't think this IS controversial at all. Some people had just noticed the change and commented on it while some others offered some possible technical explanations for it and then some other people lost their minds that anyone would even ask such questions. THAT's the only controversy. Heck, I don't think even that has penetrated beyond internet forums and the like.

 

[Sinthor]

The lady they modeled her after is beautiful, but the weird Uncanny Valley that Guerilla Games' character live in makes her look strange.


Look at the way her face blows up whenever she's talking. Not to mention she strangely looks like a less attractive version of the woman they modelled her after. If she wasn't specifically modeled after a real life woman who is very beautiful I think there'd be less of this.

I don't think they did it on purpose mind you, GG just has some weird issues with animating and modeling faces. The first Horizon had this problem big time whenever people were talking to Aloy. It was like watching manikins talk to each other. The faces look better here, but they still all look fucking weird.

I agree with this. I won't try and pretend to know that GG has some kind of motive for this at all. If they ANNOUNCE they did something on purpose, then fine. Till then I agree that the most likely explanation is just technical issue and/or how the studio handles facial animations. I don't think they have the experience at that, that a team like Naughty Dog does for example.

I don't think it's bad at all anyway. The character looks a bit different and I just thought when I looked at it that she looked good but that she just looks a few years older now. No big deal. The game looks amazing and I hope the story is really well done too!

 

[Virt McPolygon]

Fuck all of the haters. This gives me hope that Doughnut Drake will return.

 

[Hoya Destroyer]

Aloy is a very plain looking girl. Not ugly, but not a face I would look at twice in the real world.

 

[llien]

Cmd+F "incel".

First result

Thank you so much for this post!

Just what this thread, where people married for decades are posting, oh enlightened one.
Surely, one cannot NOT join certain folks in their quest against female beauty and "fat acceptance" unless one never managed to get laid.

So brightly insightful, it blinds.

 

[rofif]

I would not notice it... it's just unfortunate camera angle since in other shots she looks ok

 

[Von Hugh]

Thank you so much for this post!

Just what this thread, where people married for decades are posting, oh enlightened one.
Surely, one cannot NOT join certain folks in their quest against female beauty and "fat acceptance" unless one never managed to get laid.

So brightly insightful, it blinds.

 

[ZywyPL]

Make a believable character and make him/her make sense and I'm all in, whether she/he looks super beautiful or average/ugly.

That's the point. We have for example Control, where the main character isn't a 10/10 either, but is much more believable, well written, perfectly fits the world and surrounding events, whereas Aloy seems out of place since the very day they revealed the game.

Heavenly Sword has been thrown into discussion in the other thread, and again, very believable, likeable character, despite somewhat potato face. And on the other end of spectrum there's Quiet from MGS5, where you just have to ask yourself wtf is wrong with this chatacter, why it's even here.

So the looks is just a tip of the iceberg, it does help obviously, they might tweak Aloy to be more acceptable, acclaimed, just sticking to the actual real life model would be enough, but instead they make her even less likable with that punchable face, the only thing lacking is her yelling "I want to speak with the manager!"...

if it was a male character=no one would complain about looks=no thread on neogaf=problem solved

That's the thing - why purposely put a female character as the lead role only to make her look like a dude anyway? And yes the game would've been better received if you were a dude blasting throught dinos like in Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, Turok etc.

Or just add a simpl character creation tool like everyone who makes open-world RPG is. Problem solved.

 

[davidjaffe]

Aloy is a very plain looking girl. Not ugly, but not a face I would look at twice in the real world.

I am sure the women of the world are super concerned about passing your 'look twice' test.

Unless you look like a fucking rock star.

I literally saw John Stamos (walking with some woman, not RRS) at Disneyland and I LITERALLY had never seen such pretty people in my life. No Photoshop, not lighting. They LITERALLY looked like they do on magazine covers. It was so fucking impressive and unique.

So yeah, if you look like that, you get a pass for your insulting, sexist, super embarrassing statement. I'll give you a public apology AND a 50 PSN gift card.

Please upload your picture to this thread so we can judge you? I'll put a poll on twitter and if your looks rate 9 or above the video apology AND the gift card are yours!

JAFFE

 

[Winter's End]

I would not notice it... it's just unfortunate camera angle since in other shots she looks ok

She looks off in every shot in the video it's not just camera angles.

 

[rofif]

She looks off in every shot in the video it's not just camera angles.

hmmm.,.. maybe now that I look back on the video... nothing drastic though.. the super long smelly dreadlocks are kinda more off-putting though

 

[Hoya Destroyer]

I am sure the women of the world are super concerned about passing your 'look twice' test.

Unless you look like a fucking rock star.

I literally saw John Stamos (walking with some woman, not RRS) at Disneyland and I LITERALLY had never seen such pretty people in my life. No Photoshop, not lighting. They LITERALLY looked like they do on magazine covers. It was so fucking impressive and unique.

So yeah, if you look like that, you get a pass for your insulting, sexist, super embarrassing statement. I'll give you a public apology AND a 50 PSN gift card.

Please upload your picture to this thread so we can judge you? I'll put a poll on twitter and if your looks rate 9 or above the video apology AND the gift card are yours!

JAFFE

Aloy would still fall into the "plain" category for me, whether I was the best looking or the ugliest guy on the planet. My looks aren't relevant to how attractive she is.
Your post reads like something from Reset.

 

[Haggard]

I can't believe a thread like this already has 13 pages.....

 

[cormack12]

I am sure the women of the world are super concerned about passing your 'look twice' test.

Unless you look like a fucking rock star.

I literally saw John Stamos (walking with some woman, not RRS) at Disneyland and I LITERALLY had never seen such pretty people in my life. No Photoshop, not lighting. They LITERALLY looked like they do on magazine covers. It was so fucking impressive and unique.

So yeah, if you look like that, you get a pass for your insulting, sexist, super embarrassing statement. I'll give you a public apology AND a 50 PSN gift card.

Please upload your picture to this thread so we can judge you? I'll put a poll on twitter and if your looks rate 9 or above the video apology AND the gift card are yours!

JAFFE

Do my own teeth need to be in said picture? I've loaned them to cousin merle who is attending a wedding this weekend. And it means I'll have to turn up and ask for them back. Which would be awkward.

 

[The Cartographer]

I can't believe a thread like this already has 13 pages.....

Large girls get large threads.

 

[Dick Jones]

I am sure the women of the world are super concerned about passing your 'look twice' test.

Unless you look like a fucking rock star.

I literally saw John Stamos (walking with some woman, not RRS) at Disneyland and I LITERALLY had never seen such pretty people in my life. No Photoshop, not lighting. They LITERALLY looked like they do on magazine covers. It was so fucking impressive and unique.

So yeah, if you look like that, you get a pass for your insulting, sexist, super embarrassing statement. I'll give you a public apology AND a 50 PSN gift card.

Please upload your picture to this thread so we can judge you? I'll put a poll on twitter and if your looks rate 9 or above the video apology AND the gift card are yours!

JAFFE

I'm the spitting image of Rock Hudson

Spoiler

post AIDS

Pay up Jaffe

 

[EviLore]

Have I been summoned to post pics of myself

 

[Fredrik]

And yes the game would've been better received if you were a dude blasting throught dinos like in Cadillacs and Dinosaurs

Thanks for that nostalgia inception I loved that game!
You could actually play as a lady there too, not as covered up as Aloy though, it was a different era

 

[OmegaSupreme]

Amy Schumer must be a big deal at Guerrilla Games.

 

[DonJimbo]

You all are killing me with these mockups. Just too funny! Amazing how many talented people there are that can produce such things so quickly too! Now, if we could see a re-do of the game trailer but with THIS character model...THAT would be hilarious and amazing.

She Looks Like the mother of the Guy who wanted money for a dialyser But Used the Money for drugs

 

[OZ9000]

Do you have problems with playing as a male character

I don't believe in this new trend of stupidity with turning dudes into girls, and girls into dudes.

 

[Birdo]

Does anyone else find the lighting really odd in this game?

It looks like that Nintendo lighting where everything is rim-lit, but it's on realistic looking models.

 

[INC]

Must be her time of the month, making her face look fat

 

[Julius Ibidus]

I am sure the women of the world are super concerned about passing your 'look twice' test.

Unless you look like a fucking rock star.

I literally saw John Stamos (walking with some woman, not RRS) at Disneyland and I LITERALLY had never seen such pretty people in my life. No Photoshop, not lighting. They LITERALLY looked like they do on magazine covers. It was so fucking impressive and unique.

So yeah, if you look like that, you get a pass for your insulting, sexist, super embarrassing statement. I'll give you a public apology AND a 50 PSN gift card.

Please upload your picture to this thread so we can judge you? I'll put a poll on twitter and if your looks rate 9 or above the video apology AND the gift card are yours!

JAFFE

Have I been summoned to post pics of myself

Spoiler: SPOILER

please don't ban me KTHANXBYE!

 

[KungFucius]

Wouldn't someone that had to hunt for food look a little fatter when the weather is nice?

 

[ZywyPL]

Does anyone else find the lighting really odd in this game?

It looks like that Nintendo lighting where everything is rim-lit, but it's on realistic looking models.

It does remind the infamous WiiU Zelda reveal:

 

[Birdo]

 

[cormack12]

 

[killatopak]

Horizon is clearly NOT trying to be a masterbatory fantasy for you, pal. There's lots of games- and other things- on the net you can find to get your rocks off. Horizon clearly ain't supposed to be that.

 

[strange headache]

I am sure the women of the world are super concerned about passing your 'look twice' test.

Unless you look like a fucking rock star.

I literally saw John Stamos (walking with some woman, not RRS) at Disneyland and I LITERALLY had never seen such pretty people in my life. No Photoshop, not lighting. They LITERALLY looked like they do on magazine covers. It was so fucking impressive and unique.

So yeah, if you look like that, you get a pass for your insulting, sexist, super embarrassing statement. I'll give you a public apology AND a 50 PSN gift card.

Please upload your picture to this thread so we can judge you? I'll put a poll on twitter and if your looks rate 9 or above the video apology AND the gift card are yours!

JAFFE

 

[NahaNago]

I don't believe in this new trend of stupidity with turning dudes into girls, and girls into dudes.

She doesn't look like a dude though and neither is Sony treating her as a dude. They simply decided not to make her a super attractive female. Aloy tends to wear skirts to cover her behind when wearing pants and wears a vest to cover her chest so Sony is very clear that she is female and wants to avert the male gaze. The majority of her outfits in the last game are like this.

 

[OZ9000]

She doesn't look like a dude though and neither is Sony treating her as a dude. They simply decided not to make her a super attractive female. Aloy tends to wear skirts to cover her behind when wearing pants and wears a vest to cover her chest so Sony is very clear that she is female and wants to avert the male gaze. The majority of her outfits in the last game are like this.

I'm all for characters that wear appropriate clothes, but Aloy looks feminine in Zero Dawn. In this sequel, she looks like a fat dude.

 

[Julius Ibidus]

 

[NahaNago]

I'm all for characters that wear appropriate clothes, but Aloy looks feminine in Zero Dawn. In this sequel, she looks like a fat dude.

I've never liked the way she looked and yes they did make her look even worse.

 

[papersleeves]

Could definitely see this thread turning into a Flame War Theater episode from Mega64...

 

[llien]

Guerilla made her cheeks puffie

And her body in general wider, ZD was too skinny I guess:

 

[llien]

JL was thrashed for this:

#taliban

Seriously, is this some JRPG or something? Why are dudes so dressed, while lady is so... well, not covered with clothing?

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

JL was thrashed for this:

#taliban

Seriously, is this some JRPG or something? Why are dudes so dressed, while lady is so... well, not covered with clothing?

I don't understand how the taliban and jennifer lawrence are connected to this...yet.

 

[Coolwhhip]

Yeah she should look more like the actress...

 

[The Chairman]

JL was thrashed for this:

#taliban

Seriously, is this some JRPG or something? Why are dudes so dressed, while lady is so... well, not covered with clothing?

lol yeah i remember this, she made a long Facebook post cursing the SJW's that said she should cover up like the men

 

[TheGodfather07]

umm... why does a thread about aloy being a little chubbier have like 13 fucking pages? what are you guys talking about exactly?

 

[Coolwhhip]

umm... why does a thread about aloy being a little chubbier have like 13 fucking pages? what are you guys talking about exactly?

Her chubby face.

 

[Dampf]

Chubby faces are cute. I hate these skinny model faces. I'm glad she looks the way she does here...

 

[TheGodfather07]

Her chubby face.

13 pages is alot of discussion about a chubby face. or has it turned into an evil sony thread again?

 

[Coolwhhip]

13 pages is alot of discussion about a chubby face. or has it turned into an evil sony thread again?

Memes too of course. But really, a chubby face doesn't make sense on some athletic warrior goddess that swings from tree to tree all day.