Good point on the response time.All fighting games are better on pc. Mainly due to the 1ms response time.
If you think denuvo and worse settings than the original release plus worse performance on things like re2 are good, you may be a fanboy.Like what? All MTF and RE engine games run better on pc from the jump.
Honestly, I'm not sure. I don't currently own a PS5, but I would imagine it's SSD loads matches pretty fast. The main thing is the input lag that is just naturally longer on a TV. I wonder myself if you had a PS5 but hooked it up to a 1ms response time monitor...does it make a difference. Good question.Good point on the response time.
But also, question: I've largely stopped playing fighting games myself, but when I watch gameplay videos, I see that sometimes console versions can have a lot of loading between matches. (Immediately thinking Tekken 7 here, but might be misremembering.)
Is this something that's improved on PC, with a SATA/NVMe Solid State Drive, for example?
RE2remake still ran at 120fps on pc and also looked better, so it looked and ran better than any console release from day 1. There seems to be a TAA bug on the RT update for it, but the game still runs the same as the console versions, which can also drop even below 30 fps in RT mode.If you think denuvo and worse settings than the original release plus worse performance on things like re2 are good, you may be a fanboy.
I have nothing to prove or argue, I have a high end PC. You want to pretend every PC release is great, be my guest.
?If you think denuvo and worse settings than the original release plus worse performance on things like re2 are good, you may be a fanboy.
And that would be such easy money, 'cause design wise, the game is more than up to dateDeus Ex 1
Unfortunately, the PS2 port is shitty.
I would soooo LOVE a remaster/remake on current gen!
Great pointSince a lot of ground has already been covered, I'll take the retro perspective.
A lot of popular retro games, when played on RetroArch, have Xbox/Steam/PS-style Achievements. So if you're into that, that's a way in which PC is superior.
If you own the games and original hardware, you potentially need either a CRT, or upscaling hardware to make the game decently presentable on a modern TV set. On PC, you need just... the PC. The amount of visual options (scanlines, shaders, etc) for pixel games is staggering. So many options.
Of course, there's the case of some retro/classic games, like the first 3 classic Resident Evils, having PC versions that with mods are orders of magnitude superior to any console version ever produced. Even console versions, like the GameCube versions of Resident Evil 2 and 3, have mods on the Dolphin emulator that for example do AI high def upscaling, and the results are pretty decent.
3D games of 5th and 6th gen (the PS1 and PS2 generations) look absolutely fantastic on PC. Not to mention that if you, for example, hate a particular controller (whether it's the DualShock 2 or the GameCube controller or the horrible Dreamcast controller), you can play with any controller you want. I booted the Dreamcast version of Soulcalibur on an emulator and permanently put away my physical Dreamcast copy, as I'll likely never play it on Dreamcast again. At 1440p native on my monitor, this 1999 game looks absolutely PHENOMENAL.
The possibilities on PC are almost endless.
I think only thing going for console is different experience due to big TV + controller feel.
I play a lot of action and adventure games on PC with a controller.I think only thing going for console is different experience due to big TV + controller feel.
I think only thing going for console is different experience due to big TV + controller feel.
How those sub 720p games with limited to 60fps with drops, pathetic FoV, higher input lag and gunplay on dual stick controller with pathetic semi auto-aim and paid online were better???Why don’t we do the reverse since it’s more rare? 360 era call of duty was better on the 360 than PC.
If only you could somehow connect your PC to a big TV and control games using a controller. Imagine that.
I think sometimes games can be so badly optimized for PC, on release, that some people consider the console versions better. I know that Batman: Arkham Knight had an initially horrible PC release and people said the console version was better. I didn't play it then, but by the time I got around to playing it on PC, it was fixed enough that it was better than the console versions.Better question would be any games that are better on console?
(not that I can think of any).
Right? What many of these "pc elite" forget to mention is many of their graphics cards alone cost more than a PS5.What PC?
One with an Nvidia 3090 or a 486
lol. Few people do that but most, may be 99% use monitor and a desktop instead.
Right? What many of these "pc elite" forget to mention is many of their graphics cards alone cost more than a PS5.
Just putting your statements in context when you compare the 2.Here we go again. Consoles are cheaper. Yes, you cracked the case Sherlock. We're on an enthusiast gaming forum. In this thread we're discussing the best, not the cheapest.
Yeah Batman sucked balls, think Forza Horizon 3(?) was fucking horrific on release as well, but thankfully days of really shit PC ports (seem) to be behind us. Although Elden Ring runs like crap on my rig, was tempted to get it on PS5 as well but fuck double dipping because of that reason.I think sometimes games can be so badly optimized for PC, on release, that some people consider the console versions better. I know that Batman: Arkham Knight had an initially horrible PC release and people said the console version was better. I didn't play it then, but by the time I got around to playing it on PC, it was fixed enough that it was better than the console versions.
lol the number of people that do that is irrelevant for those who do that.lol. Few people do that but most, may be 99% use monitor and a desktop instead.
His Ferrari still runs better regardless. Your analogy sucks.Just putting your statements in context when you compare the 2.
Your Ferrari will go faster than my pinto. Your car cost $700,000 to my $700 shit box. The analogy is sound.
So does your mom but who cares? Comparing a $2,000+ pc to a $500 console is asinine and reeks of little penis syndrome.His Ferrari still runs better regardless. Your analogy sucks.
Just putting your statements in context when you compare the 2.
Your Ferrari will go faster than my pinto. Your car cost $700,000 to my $700 shit box. The analogy is sound.
Yeah Batman sucked balls, think Forza Horizon 3(?) was fucking horrific on release as well
His Ferrari still runs better regardless. Your analogy sucks.
I'm using both. I have a 65'' OLED in my living room and 42'' OLED on my office desk. I prefer to game on my desk as the TV is right in my face and it just feels more immersive but there's no problem connecting HDMI cable to living room TV if I want that sofa experience.
How do you know how many people do that? If it's possible, it's possible. That's the beauty of gaming on a PC.
lol the number of people that do that is irrelevant for those who do that.
lol I never said you can't do it. There could also be small % of console gamers who use monitor instead. I am talking in general terms people you console with a TV and PC with monitor. Not sure why some are getting triggered by it.
You won't be disappointed. It's hard to believe this game came out like almost a decade ago.
Check this out:
Playing Vanquish with gyro aim with a steam config. Was such a blast to play. Unlocked God Hard mode yesterday so I'll try that.
lol. Few people do that but most, may be 99% use monitor and a desktop instead.
Yeah seriously, I think the thread was going really well but then some people came in to shit on the thread with their combative attitude and now it's derailed a bit.Guys, this thread wasnt made to discuss if PC gaming is better than consoles
I'm aware that 99% of games run better on PC for obvious reasons. Thats not what I intended here.
My intention was to find games that have huge differences in terms of graphical features (RT GI, for example) or exclusive gameplay features and etc (like moding DQ XI soundtrack) that makes these versions the definitive ones.
I know that for many 60 FPS + 4K and all that can be transformative, but thats not what I meant
Talking about on launch fella, to the guy i was responding to. Probably runs fine now, I never went back to check. Still in the back log.
I never had any problems with it. It's probably my most played PC game, ever. It's one of 5 games that I have permanently pinned to my task bar. 4.5 out of 5 stars on PC XBOX app so I guess it works for other people too.