Or he got told by his bosses that they would be sticking with series tradition because the NX launch rides on this game and they don't want to shake the foundations of the series too hard and risk losing long time fans.
It seems like they were open to the idea of Zelda getting a chance as a main character, but were likely too afraid of fan backlash from having Link take a backseat. I have a hard time believing that Nintendo would think of this decision as weighing in on gender politics in games. It just made the most sense to them from a business perspective, rightly or wrongly.
nintendo continually allows you to rename the character, gives no real characterization, admits that he's just an avatar, and shoves skyward sword's shitty reincarnation throwaway ending down people's throats. Sounds like it is their fault.isn't Nintendo's fault
We should start a trend on Twitter - maybe something like... #LinkCould ?
Let's be clear, I wasn't being vague when I said pandering because that's what it would've been and I would've been okay with the decision had they done it. I still like the Zelda led Zelda game idea more.But don't you see, Link's character gets diluted!
/s
It'll probably come down to some vague statement about pandering.
Übermatik;207070404 said:If you don't understand the reasoning by now, there's little I can to do spell it out for you.
The 'Divine' rule is that Link is a character. A character integral to the narrative of the game. Link is Link as Samus is Samus as Tom Sawyer is Tom Sawyer.
It's just how it is. People are focusing on a lost cause here and really should be considering the far more critical issues in the industry holding back equal gender representation.
Ah okay, I thought you were upset at something I had said! Shit I should have been in on that bet. Could have fed my soda addiction for a week with that kind of money!
I would never want Samus or Lara Croft to be anything other than a female. Why do people demand Link change?
That's..
Wow.
Because Link to them is not male as a rule
Because Link to them is not male as a rule
Well atleast in this game the Narrator says his name. You not naming nobody.nintendo continually allows you to rename the character, gives no real characterization, admits that he's just an avatar, and shoves skyward sword's shitty reincarnation throwaway ending down people's throats. Sounds like it is their fault.
Amen.
Aonuma buddy, listen to me....do you and your team not possess that magical thing storytellers like to refer to as an imagination? A means to imagine a story that could easily differentiate itself from the kind of story you've told us about a hundred times before? I mean, for example, if you seriously wanted to make Zelda the main character of the series for a change....
-Link could have been....a childhood friend, who would travel with Zelda as a travelling companion in her journey across Hyrule (whether as a dual-protagonist or an unplayable sidekick).
-Link could have been....a celebrated prince of Hyrule who would get kidnapped or imprisoned by Ganon (with Zelda having to rescue him, in a reversal of the traditional LoZ dynamic)
Link could have beena beloved royal protector who Princess Zelda has become particularly fond of, only to mysteriously disappear one night when dark forces steal into Hyrule Castle, thus speaking off Princess Zelda's adventure out into Hyrule as she is determined to learn the truth about his disappearance.
-Link could have been....an older character from what we're normally used to, a seasoned adventurer, who would serve as a metaphor figure for a younger Zelda.
-Link could have been...Zelda's father, a retired adventurer who hung up the green tunic long ago, but who quietly encourages his daughter's fierce rebellious streak as she goes out into the world to have her own adventures.
In my eyes, Aonuma's words here don't so much speak to his staggeringly lack of creativity and imagination when it came to the task developing a new kind of story for this game, but his inability to envision a narrative that would exist out of the traditional rescuing hero/damsel in distress dynamic that has become so ingrained in the series as a whole, which only serves to speak as a fundamental failure on his part as a storyteller.
Because Link to them is not male as a rule
Most Metroid games you don't ever see her gender, so why does it matter?
Like Nintendo recently specified this, or the general consensus in gaming society as of late has taken to this school of thought, that Link is not male or female?
Wow, first Alison Rapp and now this. Nintendo really hates women.
Isn't is disgusting when people care about gender in a video game? It's perfectly okay to not want to buy a game for it's level design, story, art style, gameplay, control, graphics, music, etc.
But not wanting it because of reasons related to gender? sickening. blasphemous. obviously these people are not REAL gamers. /s
I'd prefer to see a new female character then make an existing one male. Link is pretty much a blank slate as it is. Would there be any point just sticking some boobs on him?
Most Metroid games you don't ever see her gender, so why does it matter?
Aonuma buddy, listen to me....do you and your team not possess that magical thing storytellers like to refer to as an imagination? A means to imagine a story that could easily differentiate itself from the kind of story you've told us about a hundred times before? I mean, for example, if you seriously wanted to make Zelda the main character of the series for a change....
-Link could have been....a childhood friend, who would travel with Zelda as a travelling companion in her journey across Hyrule (whether as a dual-protagonist or an unplayable sidekick).
-Link could have been....a celebrated prince of Hyrule who would get kidnapped or imprisoned by Ganon (with Zelda having to rescue him, in a reversal of the traditional LoZ dynamic)
Link could have beena beloved royal protector who Princess Zelda has become particularly fond of, only to mysteriously disappear one night when dark forces steal into Hyrule Castle, thus speaking off Princess Zelda's adventure out into Hyrule as she is determined to learn the truth about his disappearance.
-Link could have been....an older character from what we're normally used to, a seasoned adventurer, who would serve as a metaphor figure for a younger Zelda.
-Link could have been...Zelda's father, a retired adventurer who hung up the green tunic long ago, but who quietly encourages his daughter's fierce rebellious streak as she goes out into the world to have her own adventures.
In my eyes, Aonuma's words here don't so much speak to his staggeringly lack of creativity and imagination when it came to the task developing a new kind of story for this game, but his inability to envision a narrative that would exist out of the traditional rescuing hero/damsel in distress dynamic that has become so ingrained in the series as a whole, which only serves to speak as a fundamental failure on his part as a storyteller.
Let's be clear, I wasn't being vague when I said pandering because that's what it would've been and I would've been okay with the decision had they done it. I still like the Zelda led Zelda game idea more.
Has Emily responded to this?
The bottom line about what #LinkCould have done is that no one interested in playable Zelda really cares. Whatever #LinkCould, that's just an ancillary concern. They're a bajillion times more interested in what #ZeldaCould. Better off with that I think.
Yep. Again, that's exactly what I said. You're really putting words into peoples mouths with these posts.
Nintendo making a female Link and pushing out the new Zelda game with a cool character because they want to = awesome.
People expecting/demanding that this be the case and getting mad when it doesn't happen = not awesome.
One less game to buy. Thanks for saving me money Nintendo.
Because it's not the same character dumbass. Who said anything about Link having gender identity issues? They're not changing EVERY OTHER Link's gender. Why is it so hard to accept ONE Link out of TWENTY being a girl? Sexist much?
Because Samus stands out as one of the few iconic female character in a long history of mostly male icons. Changing Samus's gender would be balancing the scales even further in favor of the demographic that already dominates video games. It's not at all comparable to making a male character female, especially a mute avatar-like character such as Link.
Pretty much how I see it. It appears really simple to me.
Apparently, it's much easier to say that Nintendo is evil, and has an agenda to keep women down.
I play women whenever they are available, in just about any game. Should Nintendo have more female leads? Sure. But that doesn't mean a long time male character suddenly needs to be female to check a box. I'm sure Nintendo is listening. There will probably be a side game starring Zelda sometime. But, then people will just complain that it isn't the main Zelda series. Oh well.
I really hope that this is a joke.
Fine, I'll trade you Samus for Link. That way it'll be even. Deal?
You actually get these kind of responses often when people decide to cancel their pre-order over one singular issue. And that second part of your post really isn't necessaryIsn't is disgusting when people care about gender in a video game? It's perfectly okay to not want to buy a game for it's level design, story, art style, gameplay, control, graphics, music, etc.
But not wanting it because of reasons related to gender? sickening. blasphemous. obviously these people are not REAL gamers. /s
But that's not the point I was replying to. I was replying to your assertion of "Wow" that somebody might not want to buy this game if they can't play as a girl.
There's quite a few of these kinds of posts throughout the thread, which makes it all the more disturbing that these kinds of drive-by rage comments are considered a valid part of the conversation. Nintendo is one of the most female friendly/gender neutral of the console makers, so if Nintendo hates women I can hardly wait to hear the verdict on Sony and Microsoft.
Ah here we go, the ol I can't make a good argument so I'm going to lead with calling the poster a name technique. Keep it up junior...
I actually think a female Link would be kind of cool. It's not hard for me to accept a female Link and nothing about what I wrote would indicate that. all I did was ask why people EXPECTED A femalw link. there are no threads bitching about why the new Kratos isn't female. I don't see anyone pushing for a female Mario for the next game. No threads pushing for a male Samus.
Lots of people avoid discussing topics like this because of your juvenile knee jerk reaction. Maybe comprehend what you read before you respond next time.
Good. I cant imagine zelda going to rescue link..
Übermatik;207070404 said:If you don't understand the reasoning by now, there's little I can to do spell it out for you.
The 'Divine' rule is that Link is a character. A character integral to the narrative of the game. Link is Link as Samus is Samus as Tom Sawyer is Tom Sawyer.
It's just how it is. People are focusing on a lost cause here and really should be considering the far more critical issues in the industry holding back equal gender representation.
A playable female link wouldn't be wrost thing in the world.
You can play female characters in Mario how is Zelda any different?
It'll take a lot more gender swaps than just Link for men and women to be "even" in video game representation.