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Why don't we level the playing field and whine when a PC game is exclusive to Steam?
I've been asking this for a while, but fanboys gotta fanboy.
Why don't we level the playing field and whine when a PC game is exclusive to Steam?
Time to show some receipts. Where's your evidence that Valve bought MCC exclusivity rather than being approached by Microsoft?
So Valve is awesome for buying Halo MCC exclusivity but Epic Games the devil for buying Borderlands 3 exclusivity?
And I've been asking you, show me a legit game(not developed by Valve or some asset flipping shovelware) that is Steam exclusive.I've been asking this for a while, but fanboys gotta fanboy.
So Valve is awesome for buying Halo MCC exclusivity but Epic Games the devil for buying Borderlands 3 exclusivity?
So Valve is awesome for buying Halo MCC exclusivity but Epic Games the devil for buying Borderlands 3 exclusivity?
Because Steam isn't buying exclusivity. They could've easily done this both when they were developing Steam OS and when Oculus was doing the same thing as Epic.Why don't we level the playing field and whine when a PC game is exclusive to Steam?
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/06/17/...ers-to-stop-them-taking-exclusivity-contractsSpeaking to IGN, Valve’s Greg Comer said, “you won’t see an exclusive killer app for SteamOS from us. We’re not going to be doing that kind of thing.”
This will also apply to third-party titles, Valve’s Anna Sweet told us. “Whenever we talk to third-party partners, we encourage them to put their games in as many places as possible, including not on our platforms," she said. "Because we think that customers are everywhere, and they want to put their games wherever customers are. That would go against our whole philosophy, to launch something that’s exclusive to SteamOS or Steam machines.”
“We don't think exclusives are a good idea for consumers or developers," Newell responded. "There's a separate issue which is risk. On any given project, you need to think about how much risk to take on. There are a lot of different forms of risk—financial risk, design risk, schedule risk, organizational risk, IP risk, etc... A lot of the interesting VR work is being done by new developers. That is a triple-risk whammy—a new developer creating new game mechanics on a new platform. We're in a much better position to absorb financial risk than a new VR developer, so we are happy to offset that giving developers development funds (essentially pre-paid Steam revenue). However there are no strings attached to those funds—they can develop for the Rift or PlayStation VR or whatever the developer thinks are the right target VR systems. Our hope is that by providing that funding that developers will be less likely to take on deals that require them to be exclusive."
Surprise Suprise, Epic has their Astroturfers out in full force in this thread, no need to call out the names, it is as plain as day, pathetic really.
And conveniently ignoring the responses so you can continue to bitch about it in perpetuity.I've been asking this for a while, but fanboys gotta fanboy.
The funniest part is that i can remember how much fucking hate STEAM got when it originally launched.
How about you do your fucking research and see that EGS scrapes your PC for files that it has no right to access. "Muh friend list" is not an argument when Steam has perfectly working API that you can use. But of course that API needs user to login through Steam and Tim can't have that, that would give the power to the consumer while he is all about developers.
How about workshop support or Steamworks, which means games do not relly on other servers outside of Steam and even if the publisher himself goes down, the game is still playable thanks to Steamworks.
What are you on about? MCC will also be on the Microsoft store, weirdly enough. It is in no way Steam exclusive.
Yeah pirate the game, that will show them!Man Epic is making my investment in Uploaded and Rapidgator accounts all the more sweeter with each passing day!.
Well to be fair Outer Realms is also releasing in the Microsoft Store simultaneously with the ES. If the game is the bomb I'll get it in the Microsoft Store day one, if it's just OK I'll wait until Steam gets it
Epic: You get a moneyhat! And you get a moneyhat! Everyone gets a moneyhat!Man Epic is making my investment in Uploaded and Rapidgator accounts all the more sweeter with each passing day!.
Last time i checked epic made a roadmap to better their service.Yeah, because Steam fucking sucked back then. In that last1316 years they've refined it to the point where it's synonymous with PC gaming. Epic have decided to launch a competing launcher with barely any of the stuff that's been standard in Steam for years, hence people think it sucks. What's the point you're trying to make? As long as Epic give up the exclusivity payouts and fix their shit, I don't imagine many of us are gonna care in the long run.
Last time i checked epic made a roadmap to better their service.
https://trello.com/b/GXLc34hk/epic-games-store-roadmap
You can still play the damn game and in the meanwhile epic continues to make your experience better just like steam did back in the day.
So you pirated porn before pirating games?^^^Man Epic is making my investment in Uploaded and Rapidgator accounts all the more sweeter with each passing day!.
Yeah pirate the game, that will show them!
Steam is not your friend. They where close to achieving a monopoly. This will only make steam better in the long run.
Look how fucked GPU prices are.. and how abysmall the jump was in the new RTX line. Nvidia basically has a monopoly in the high end.
I prefer steam above epic. But i like steam to change. And work harder to get those “exclusives”
Steam sales are nothing like they used to be. They where so aggressive and hungry cause they needed new users. Guess what epic will force them to do?the irony in your example is, steam is radeon and epic tries to be nvidia...
and i still dont understand why someone wants exclusives. Epic is trying to dictate the market and monopolize these games.
all you are saying is, you dont care and thats cool. but stop playing the problems down others have.
and how this competition will help, when epic is dictating everything and steam is the open platform, will still not go into my head. what exactly will competition do?
better prices?
we had those with steam. now we pay more.
better service?
steam is the better service. epic launcher is embaressing right now.
this is a shitshow and i would hope more people see it.
Can someone explain to me, in whta way steam has to do better?
and just for clarification. im using steam since 2003 and hated it. it needed to earn my trust and goodwill. And yes, i give steam props because i think they are one of the reasons, the pcmarket was saved. many people seem to forget the dark times and shit like GFWL.
Epic=GOAT ...I love how they in zero @#$% given mode, you don't like what we do..move tha @#$% on
Me/or console gamers all have to do is press A button on xbl and it starts pre-loading, or cop that at BB. Problem solved
Steam sales are nothing like they used to be. They where so aggressive and hungry cause they needed new users. Guess what epic will force them to do?
So in short.
Fuck over devs less.
Less bloat
More offers.
You know the stuff you get when they are no longer the biggest fish. Look at how much xbox gamers got thanks due sony beating them this gen.
Just think ahead and skip all the salt.
I like steam and i think there is potential in epic.
I can ask you the same. Where is the evidence that Epic Games bought Borderlands 3 exclusivity rather than being approached by Gearbox? Maybe they did so because Epic Games doesn't take their revenue away?Time to show some receipts. Where's your evidence that Valve bought MCC exclusivity rather than being approached by Microsoft?
I just need to play the first games first.
I am lucky enough to play them with the update so why not.
Also I don't care if it is only on Epic Store.
If it is good, then I am happy.
Steam is not your friend. They where close to achieving a monopoly. This will only make steam better in the long run.
Look how fucked GPU prices are.. and how abysmall the jump was in the new RTX line. Nvidia basically has a monopoly in the high end.
I prefer steam above epic. But i like steam to change. And work harder to get those “exclusives”
wow you sound like a big boiWhere the fuck did i say that Steam is my friend motherfucker? You go back and show me where i said this, no you can't? Don't put words in my mouth that i did not speak.
Now you're only thinking from the perspective of gamers. Ever thought about how game developers oppose Steam because of their revenue policies? EGS may have less features than Steam, but why should they care? Game developers make games to make money and apparently EGS is the better platform for that.
wow you sound like a big boi
I can ask you the same. Where is the evidence that Epic Games bought Borderlands 3 exclusivity rather than being approached by Gearbox? Maybe they did so because Epic Games doesn't take their revenue away?