yankeehater
Member
In Overrun you and a group of people cooperate to stop another group of people from competing an objective. Even though you have to work as a group it is definitely competitive. Each side is competing to see who can finish faster.
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Gears of War: Judgment Review Thread
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In Overrun you and a group of people cooperate to stop another group of people from competing an objective. Even though you have to work as a group it is definitely competitive. Each side is competing to see who can finish faster.
symphonask
Member
Wall tagging is cheap. You can still take down 4 players on your own without having to resort to wall tagging. In fact, you'll probably get a greater sense of satisfaction that way. Add to that that everyone spawns with one grenade this time and keeping wall tagging in would mean ruining the game. You can still tag other players if you want, that's more than enough.
Some of favorite MP memories come from taking down 3+ players on my own in Gears 1 using the sniper and gnasher combo.
I would love a remake of the Fuel Depot map from Gears 1 to be included in one of the future Judgment map packs.
Overrun is competitive.
ChristianS
Neo Member
SquirrelNuckle - OverRun is a competetive mode. Also people seems to forget that GoW:J MP maps are bigger and are not symetrical in the design as they were in previous GoW games.
Gears of War: Judgment Multiplayer Modes:
•OverRun: OverRun marks the first time that class-based competitive multiplayer has been introduced into the “Gears of War” series. Think of it as a combination of the popular Beast and Horde modes pitted against each other. OverRun is a 5v5 attack/defend game type, where the COG are always defending, and the Locust are attacking… and you have an opportunity to play both as attacker and defender to determine the winning team.
•Team Deathmatch: In this returning fan-favourite, two teams of five players start with a shared pool of respawns. The goal is to take out your opponents and deplete their respawns before your own pool is gone. Perfect for “Gears” veterans and new recruits alike, Team Deathmatch has everyone battling to be the last squad standing.
•Free-For-All: Free-For-All is an “every player for themselves” Deathmatch mode. No teams mean shoot anything that moves. The perfect mode for relieving some stress.
•Domination: Domination is a 5v5 team based competitive multiplayer mode. Teams will compete over three rings placed throughout the map. Control the ring to earn points; the first team to 250 points wins the match.
ALL are Competitive modes,to include Execution, which has always been known as such.
ok thanks for the info... I just don´t get why they seperate the maps between the modes..? are the maps designed so that they fit the different gametypes..?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
That's right. So if you only care about one or the other, then you get half the maps to play with.
yankeehater
Member
The overrun maps are huge and they wouldnt work at all for modes like TDM. They are stressing verticality now in the mp, and the overrun maps are basically flat.
gaming_noob
Member
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Yes. Overrun is basically like Rush in Battlefield so they need large maps that can be progressed through.
ahh then I understand the reasoning behind that.
yankeehater
Member
They should have done this just so the number of maps would have been bigger but even if they made them smaller they would have sucked for TDM. They are asymmetrical and they have huge open areas with no cover at all.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
How is this getting 9+ reviews when it comes with 4 maps for MP. You can never trust reviews from AAA games especially from big publishers.
....And the fact still remain that Gears of War: Judgment will still ship tommorow with 8 competitive Multiplayer maps regardless of whether people pass on the title.
Because it's shipping with 8 and not 4.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Maybe they really liked Overrun
yankeehater
Member
Maybe those 4 maps are really good, and all the changes to mp and sp really improve things, and maybe the campaign is fun. Heck maybe the reviewers just loved Overrun and decided to give it a high score since that mode is so much fun.
Vire
Member
My mistake, sorry I was only going on what was said in this thread. Where is the confusion coming from?
Also, I'm not passing on the game because of the amount of maps, I'm not invested enough into CMP to care about that stuff.
Domstercool
Member
Depends how you look at it. They might really enjoy the way the single player is now, or that other multiplayer mode. Depends how deep they are into the multiplayer.
Same as BF3 and it's crappy single player, but awesome multiplayer. Still got great scores, but should it have gotten those scores because the single player sucked?
It just depends what you see in the game I guess.
It only got 9+ from two sites. Looks like this 9.2 from IGN hurts a lot of people feelings.
I didn't see this thread earlier, so I'll reiterate.
Overall, these are remarkably poor reviews given the previous high standard of the Gears of War series and what it has delivered in the past. There is no excuse, really. A lack of game modes, maps, and the short campaign suggests that PCF did not receive enough time to make this game, poor management from whoever is responsible.
With Nintendo, Sony and various other publishers all putting out superior titles this year, you have to question Microsoft's exclusive capability going forward.
Overall, these are remarkably poor reviews given the previous high standard of the Gears of War series and what it has delivered in the past. There is no excuse, really. A lack of game modes, maps, and the short campaign suggests that PCF did not receive enough time to make this game, poor management from whoever is responsible.
With Nintendo, Sony and various other publishers all putting out superior titles this year, you have to question Microsoft's exclusive capability going forward.
quickwhips
Member
Trolls Keep on Trolling. I love this guy though.
NullPointer
Member
This game sounds like good news for campaign fans at least. That's rare these days, but I'm so damn in. 
Outside of Left 4 Dead what other campaigns are even close to this?
A short campaign is OK when you consider the scoring and dynamic spawns. Its made to be replayed for different encounters, high scores and declassified objectives, and that's where the campaign innovations lie.
Outside of Left 4 Dead what other campaigns are even close to this?
He's reviewing the game itself in front of him. Not prospective DLC.
'Hey guys, this game is alright but it kind of lacks content... don't worry though, there's gonna be 2 free maps in a months time that I'm sure will be fabulous'
Hmmm, so it got Ascensioned too.
I definitely wouldn't want them to include a review of future content, but thinking any of these guys have a good idea of what public matches will be like with real people over the internet is crazy. Even if they play 5 to 10 hours, it's usually in a super controlled environment with a bunch of press. I don't think any review outlet devotes enough time to reviewing the quality of multiplayer. Discussions about multiplayer invariably come down to number of maps, number of modes, etc. It's never number of quality maps, weapon balance, quality of connection/lag, speed/quality of matchmaking or anything that truly matters for an online game.
Future PhaZe
Member
lol it has 8 maps
damn
The maps aren't really the problem. Lack of TS/FFA integration with Gears 3 maps are so bizarre though.
yankeehater
Member
This has already been answered in this thread but the campaign isnt shorter then the other Gears games. When you factor in the aftermath campaign and in having to do the declassified missions to unlock aftermath it is as long or longer.
Yea exactly, lol. I bought Ascension so I'll probably pick this up, especially for the multiplayer.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
No game has come out this year that I would give anything higher than a 3/5 except MGR. I would say he is spot on so far.
WorthPlaying Review = 7/10
The dynamic spawns introduce some minor variation, but nothing major. As for the "declassified" objectives, those just tweak the current mission to be more difficult. They don't actually change the mission or the story path.
Aftermath isn't a campaign. It's more or less a cut level from Gears of War 3. Also, I'm not in front of the game right now, but I don't believe you have to do any declassified missions to unlock Aftermath. You simply have to earn 40 stars in the main campaign (which isn't that difficult to do).
Having played through all the the prior Gears games, Judgment certainly felt shorter to me. It's easy enough to blow through the campaign in an afternoon.
WorthPlaying said:
This game sounds like good news for campaign fans at least. That's rare these days, but I'm so damn in.
A short campaign is OK when you consider the scoring and dynamic spawns. Its made to be replayed for different encounters, high scores and declassified objectives, and that's where the campaign innovations lie.
Outside of Left 4 Dead what other campaigns are even close to this?
The dynamic spawns introduce some minor variation, but nothing major. As for the "declassified" objectives, those just tweak the current mission to be more difficult. They don't actually change the mission or the story path.
Aftermath isn't a campaign. It's more or less a cut level from Gears of War 3. Also, I'm not in front of the game right now, but I don't believe you have to do any declassified missions to unlock Aftermath. You simply have to earn 40 stars in the main campaign (which isn't that difficult to do).
Having played through all the the prior Gears games, Judgment certainly felt shorter to me. It's easy enough to blow through the campaign in an afternoon.
NullPointer
Member
Would you say its comparable to Left 4 Dead?
Hmm, sounds promising. That sounds hilariously bad with the berzerker though. Can't believe that one missed QA. Are we 100% sure that only flame weapons can damage it in Judgment?Worth Playing Review said:
So it's basically Left 4 Dead competitive MP?
EDIT: Beaten.
You know, this game seems a lot like Left 4 Dead. They've taken cues from the AI director, for instance, for the campaign. Too bad there isn't local co-op only Overrun. That'd be sweet. I wish more people would learn from Payday, which does Left 4 Dead way better than Left 4 Dead does Left 4 Dead.
It's been forever since I last played Left 4 Dead, but I didn't really get that kind of vibe from it at all. The game is comfortably within the Gears style of play.
I did go through two sections repeatedly to test the spawn system and, from what I can tell major enemies are always present in the same locations. Minor enemies may change, but the game appeared to choose from a limited sample size (as in there are two or three sets and it chooses from one of those) when deciding what to populate.
In sections where you are escorting an AI and there are multiple paths, it will randomly choose one or the other.
They aren't major differences, but there is variation.
As for the Berserker, yeah you need to light her on fire with the Scorcher before you can damage her. In fact, the game even tells you this by way of your squad mates. It's also noted in the declassified brief for that section that you'll need to scavenge a Scorcher. So when the flamers didn't appear it was kind of a showstopper. Everything was dead except for the Berserker and there was no way to damage it.
NullPointer
Member
Oh man... still makes me laugh but that is just horrible.As for the Berserker, yeah you need to light her on fire with the Scorcher before you can damage her. In fact, the game even tells you this by way of your squad mates. It's also noted in the declassified brief for that section that you'll need to scavenge a Scorcher. So when the flamers didn't appear it was kind of a showstopper. Everything was dead except for the Berserker and there was no way to damage it.