Fudgepuppy
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What are the essential viewings before this? Ghost in the Shell (1995) and SAC?
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Ghost In The Shell (2017) Trailer
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Subpar Spatula
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Wait a second. Wasn't Micheal Pitt gonna play the Laughing Man? Now he's Kuze?
Why do I get a strange feeling this is going to be a horrible mix of all the popular scenes from the franchise?
Why do I get a strange feeling this is going to be a horrible mix of all the popular scenes from the franchise?
TDLink
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I feel like Batou and his eyes are just as iconic as Motoko for the series. I think his eyes being opaque and pupil-less are pretty significant. I wouldn't necessarily hate your idea but I feel like there would be just as many people complaining if the design was completely different. There were already people complaining about some set photos where they didn't see he had the eyes.
SuperStiltzkin
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Zach Snyder's the type of person to watch Fight Club and actually believe in the stuff Tyler Durden does and thinks it's cool. Dude always misses the point of what he tries to adapt.
ElBoxyBrown
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Yes. I never saw the sequel so I'm not sure if it's worth watching.
hobblygobbly
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I really like this cover, second favourite cover after Lacuna Coil's cover.
Hopefully the film will be pretty decent, I like the visual aesthetic for the most part.
GavinUK86
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Well, I would suggest everything personally, but yeah they seem to be the stuff this movie is pulling from.
Lacuna Coil's cover is sooo good.
TDLink
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Yeah basically. Innocence (the 2nd film) isn't as good in my opinion, and Arise is terrible.
I would say watch both seasons of Stand Alone Complex first and then go back to the 95 movie. The 95 movie basically stands on its own and is not in continuity with the series.
This new movie is allegedly adapting part of the second season of SAC...seemingly with some parts of the 95 movie.
Laughing Man was never part of it. He is Kuze. But yes I am worried about too much mixing as well. Particularly mixing from the film if they're doing the plot of 2nd Gig if it's at the cost of things from 2nd Gig like the Individual 11 and Goda.
Because the trailer pretty much confirmed that. It's got scenes and nods to everything GitS related and that's only the trailer. Imagine the full film.
SuperStiltzkin
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It should be called "Quotes in the Shell." Characters in that movie spout random quotes from philosophers throughout the movie. I wouldn't call it a bad movie though. It's still really atmospheric and creepy. But I was left a bit confused about what the overall mystery was and trying to follow the breadcrumbs. If there's one thing Mamoru Oshii seems to hate, it's have a clear defined antagonist.
Vulcano's assistant
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So far I'm cautiously optimistic, but I'm fearing that it may be the production designers carrying the team.
Pitt has always been Kuze. And this is Rupert Sanders (Snow White and the Huntsman) so it very likely could just be a GitS greatest hits collection, who knows. The production design, art design, and cinematography are all totally on point though so even if it's a soulless poorly put together movie it'll be a cool experience.
EYEL1NER
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I had very mixed feeling while watching the trailer. I've seen the original film and maybe half of SAC, though the SAC were scattered throughout the series and just randomly on while I was flipping rough channels. I don't have any huge love for the property that I am going into this with though. It just looked... Okay to me. Some of SJ's lines were robotic and emotionless which seemed like what they were going for and felt to me like they fit, but other lines seemed off. And the brief bits of plot/story that they dropped (lines about them saving her and the shots of her internals opened up) made me think 'Cool, we're getting another Robocop reboot.' The shots of the city looked interesting though.
I'll see it for sure, but probably through RedBox (or Netflix, if it isn't a 2 or 3 year wait for it) rather than in a theater.
I'll see it for sure, but probably through RedBox (or Netflix, if it isn't a 2 or 3 year wait for it) rather than in a theater.
Imperial Bishop
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I know a lot of diehard fans are dismissing this, but I'm willing to give it a chance.
I just hope SJ can surprise me in this and at least convince me she was the right choice to play the role.
Keyword: "trying"
I just hope SJ can surprise me in this and at least convince me she was the right choice to play the role.
Keyword: "trying"
New trailer with inner universe intro music tacked on...
https://youtu.be/IDkTlomNvag
Someone make one with the original movie title song!
https://youtu.be/IDkTlomNvag
Someone make one with the original movie title song!
GavinUK86
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bengraven
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I know GAF is going to hate this and the first few responses prove that, but this is sooooo much better than I expected.
I'm 110% okay with a film that feels like a 90's action sci-fi film. Dark City, The Matrix, Fifth Element, Johnny Mnemonic...
It even has Michael Wincott in that shit!
I'm 110% okay with a film that feels like a 90's action sci-fi film. Dark City, The Matrix, Fifth Element, Johnny Mnemonic...
It even has Michael Wincott in that shit!
I'm a fan of the original film's soundtrack but is slapping that track over anything really all they need to do tide people over lol?
This trailer sort of confirmed it for me. I've watched it a few more times now and the way it's been filmed feels uninspired and amateurish at some points. I don't know if I'd call it a high budget fan film like others but they're not far off.
Fudgepuppy
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I misread, I thought that SAC was a movie.
Can you stay with only the movie, or do you need to watch it all?
I used to love anime, but now I can only really tolerate anime when it's high-production value in a shorter and tighter format, as in the really big movies with beautiful visuals and animation. I just can't stand the format the tv-series are usually in.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Gross.
Subpar Spatula
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But Micheal Pitt was casted as the Laugning Man. Was it all a ruse?
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourcei...1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=michael+pitt+laughing+man
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1180089
I hate when studios do this; cast someone and cloak their role for some stupid surprise. TBH, Laughing Man would be more intriguing than some digital Jesus.
You watched the Patlabor movies, didn't you?
Yes, I absolutely loved the two Patlabor movies.
Two.
There were only two of them.
djplaeskool
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Imma give it a chance.
bengraven
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Damn, it's happening isn't it?
I'm becoming disconnected from the GAF. I started feeling this way when I actually loved Jurassic World. Must be getting younger or I'm getting more forgiving. I literally saw nothing in that trailer that worries me, except maybe a few moments of Scar's dialogue. Visually it looks better than almost anything I've seen.
I'm becoming disconnected from the GAF. I started feeling this way when I actually loved Jurassic World. Must be getting younger or I'm getting more forgiving. I literally saw nothing in that trailer that worries me, except maybe a few moments of Scar's dialogue. Visually it looks better than almost anything I've seen.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
I have no idea what's going on, but I will watch this at some point.
SuperStiltzkin
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The Patlabor cast made a cameo in some meh monster movie though which I thought was neat.
Yeah, WXIII: Patlabor the Movie 3. :-\ :-(
So, uhm, yeah. There are only two, TWO, Patlabor movies ;-)
GavinUK86
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Yeah you can do. Just the movie is fine. SAC season 1 & 2 were made into 2 movies, Laughing Man and Individual Eleven if you wanna go that route.
Ghost in the Shell (1995 film) - essential
Ghost in the Shell (original Masamune Shirow manga) - not essential
Ghost in the Shell: Innocence (sequel to 1995 film) - not essential, but recommended if you like the original film
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex S1 & 2 - essential
Ghost in the Shell: Solid State Society (OAV film sequel to SAC) - essential
Ghost in the Shell: Arise (prequel/re-imagining) - not essential.
distantmantra
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Hot. I love the combo of Yoko Kanno and Orga and so damn much. RIP.
TDLink
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The compilation films are not the optimal way to watch Stand Alone Complex. Watching all the episodes is way better. Plus if you like the series it's nice to have more rather than less anyways. The compilations not only cut down the central plot of each season, they also completely omit all of the stand alone episodes, many of which are outstanding, and the character and world development that comes with them.
Yeah this is the most correct.
Oh thanks for the link!
I normally don't hesitate to be critical about trailers (that Valerian movie looks like total trash), but everything about the art/production design and visuals here show me they really gave a shit with attention to detail in nearly every shot. I think people are just deservedly jaded about big Hollywood movies now since they almost always suck, and great trailers for bad movies is a thing that happens all the time. There's also the very studio-tested reasons for this movie being made now, between SJ being a certified BO draw and the rising Asian markets.
distantmantra
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I've got the SAC compilations solely for the reason that they and the film and are the only SAC related materials that came out on Blu-ray here. I'm mostly done buying movies/anime, but i would definitely get SAC and 2nd GIG if someone would release them on BD.
GavinUK86
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But, as they said, if they don't want to watch hours and hours of an anime series, I would recommend the cut down films. Even if they aren't the optimal way of viewing it.
KonradLaw
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This looks so much better than I expected.
But I'm a little concerned about the "stolen past". I hope they don't make her past part of a big conspiracy. I also hope this is really The Laughing Man, complete with the insignia, and not just a name swap, using TLM's name for Puppet Master's story.
Edit: By the way, I wish they'd stop using that subwoofer "Doooooooom" in every single action film trailer.
But I'm a little concerned about the "stolen past". I hope they don't make her past part of a big conspiracy. I also hope this is really The Laughing Man, complete with the insignia, and not just a name swap, using TLM's name for Puppet Master's story.
Edit: By the way, I wish they'd stop using that subwoofer "Doooooooom" in every single action film trailer.
Both irrelevant compared to Tori Amos' though
TDLink
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Where is here? Because... https://www.amazon.com/Animation-Complex-English-Available-BCXA-1097/dp/B0156BMLEU/ref=sr_1_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1479067433&sr=1-2&keywords=stand+alone+complex&refinements=p_n_format_browse-bin%3A2650305011
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0026Q8EKE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I have a similar negative opinion of anime in general but GITS SAC is one of those top tier series that really makes me make an exception. The dub is fantastic and the production values are high quality. Both seasons are highly engaging. It would be a shame to miss out on brilliant episodes like "Jungle Cruise", "Poker Face", "Trial", and others. It feels quite often like a top notch western TV show. Not your typical anime. And it's one of the few I would ever say that about.
Demoncarnotaur
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I'm not as familiar with he source material as most, but uh, wow this looks a lot better than I expected.
I didn't expect this movie to pop up on my radar like this, but I'm interested now.
I didn't expect this movie to pop up on my radar like this, but I'm interested now.
2017 is going to be great for Cyberpunk. If only there were a Snow Crash movie.
distantmantra
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Here is North America. The images in that Amazon listing are of the Japanese BD release which contains only the first half of SAC for roughly $100. The other listing is the entire series for $400. Neither season was released here on Blu-ray.
bengraven
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I think had it been an Asian actress people may be less critical. Like you said, this is one of the most visually interesting trailers I've seen in years and looks distinct from the GiTS anime but also honoring the influences like Blade Runner. I'm sold already.
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