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Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective |OT| Spoiler: The Main Character Dies
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Versipellis
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Ending spoilers:
zigg said:
The fact that the shard is still inside Sissel's body and he remembers everything is much likely a sequel tease. Or at least doesn't rule out a sequel, even though the story ends without leaving anything unexplained.
Caution: Yet more ending spoilers!
My interpretation is that
Versipellis said:
My interpretation is that
the cat didn't die, but its body became immortal due to the shard becoming lodged into it the same way it became lodged into Yomiels in the original timeline. The powers of Yomiel's, Missile's and Sissel's souls manifest themselves when they die in proximity of (a shard of) the meteor. The effect it has on Yomiel's and Sissel's bodies is that they are frozen in time (in terms of their physical state). This effect is material and manifests itself only in bodies in which a meteor fragment becomes lodged.
The difference is that Yomiel was killed by the impact of the meteor - thus setting free his 'ghost powers' at the same time his body is rendered immortal -- the body thus becomes an empty, but nevertheless ageless and indestructible, shell. Sissel was only rendered unconcious, so he remains a living soul inside a now immortal body. The brief flash showing Sissels burning soul in the 'ghost world', at the very end, doesn't show any other cores in proximity, so at this point Sissel might not even be able to move out of his body -- presumably because he's not dead.
At least, that's what I think. I guess we'll only know for sure if there's ever a sequel.
The difference is that Yomiel was killed by the impact of the meteor - thus setting free his 'ghost powers' at the same time his body is rendered immortal -- the body thus becomes an empty, but nevertheless ageless and indestructible, shell. Sissel was only rendered unconcious, so he remains a living soul inside a now immortal body. The brief flash showing Sissels burning soul in the 'ghost world', at the very end, doesn't show any other cores in proximity, so at this point Sissel might not even be able to move out of his body -- presumably because he's not dead.
At least, that's what I think. I guess we'll only know for sure if there's ever a sequel.
Versipellis
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ending spoilers!
IIRC,
Farmboy said:
IIRC,
They explain the immortality of Yomiel's body with the meteor's power to bring something back to 4 minutes before its death. Maybe I just misread that part - it didn't sound too convincing, though.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I wanted to play more so badly today, but I decided to save the rest for my six hour train ride tomorrow. I'm itching to dive back in though.
Crumpet Trumpet
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Why don't you have it?!?Boney said:
Crumpet Trumpet
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I see. Almost there, though!Boney said:
ShockingAlberto
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HOLY SHIT CHAPTER 15
cosmicblizzard
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Very early in, but I can already tell Missile is gonna be the best character.
Turnstyle
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Oh God, am I being really dumb here?
I've just started chapter 5, I'm totally stuck. I have no idea what to do!
I've just started chapter 5, I'm totally stuck. I have no idea what to do!
I've been tooling around in the Supers office, but I can't seem to do much aside from put the lid down on the kettle 
/ Can anyone give me a small hint to help me along?
/ Can anyone give me a small hint to help me along?Just Finished Chapter 9, nothing to amazing plot twisty story wise, just some puzzling and setting up. I am going to make one guess though about something.
For Chapter 5, three words.
If you aren't even at that part though, where you have to stop the machine, I am not really sure how to help.
The Main character is the guy who was in the now empty cell. Its a thought. Still think the guy in the office is the Justice Minster, but he may also be someone with the military or other high office.
Or, for an alternative, after finishing 9, I think the main character could of been the one shot 10 years ago, but that has a bit to many plot holes to jump to that conclusion yet. More likely, the lamp may of been the man shoot 10 years ago
For Chapter 5, three words.
Tennis Ball, Timing.
If you aren't even at that part though, where you have to stop the machine, I am not really sure how to help.
Turnstyle said:Oh God, am I being really dumb here?
I've just started chapter 5, I'm totally stuck. I have no idea what to do!
I've been tooling around in the Supers office, but I can't seem to do much aside from put the lid down on the kettle
There's a bunch of things you can do there, i'm not sure at which point you're at though
You gotta do something to get the officer to look at Lynne's diary, I'm pretty sure. If not... uh... use the steam to attract his attention?
Turnstyle
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Thanks everyone.
I just figured it out.
I was rushing around too much I think. Tip for anyone starting to play the game - make sure you wait for each scene to play out before trying to do anything!
I just figured it out.
I had to wait for the officer at the police station to pin a note to the wall so I could manipulate it.
I was rushing around too much I think. Tip for anyone starting to play the game - make sure you wait for each scene to play out before trying to do anything!
I beat it today, what an AMAZING experience!
It got me terribly hooked: during the last 3-4 days on every free moment i turned on my DS just to breathe that kickass universe and to perform a few ghost tricks.
The art direction is top notch, the atmosphere's amazing, the characters have great, zany personalities and even if the gameplay is a little peculiar (i'd even say "stiff", from a certain point of view), i loved every single moment of it.
Beatiful, beautiful game... i hope it sells well, even if i fear it will kinda bomb.
PS: IMHO the ending here is far more surprising and satisfying than the true ending of 999.
It got me terribly hooked: during the last 3-4 days on every free moment i turned on my DS just to breathe that kickass universe and to perform a few ghost tricks.
The art direction is top notch, the atmosphere's amazing, the characters have great, zany personalities and even if the gameplay is a little peculiar (i'd even say "stiff", from a certain point of view), i loved every single moment of it.
Beatiful, beautiful game... i hope it sells well, even if i fear it will kinda bomb.
PS: IMHO the ending here is far more surprising and satisfying than the true ending of 999.
Tricky I Shadow
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Mdk7 said:PS: IMHO the ending here is far more surprising and satisfying than the true ending of 999.
Wooow! Hype increased by 5 million! Thursday really can't come soon enough! Can't wait to dig in!
Chapter 14 was a total bitch, imho.
It was an awesome turning point in the game, but to give you such a dastardly puzzle was quite harsh.
It was an awesome turning point in the game, but to give you such a dastardly puzzle was quite harsh.
First of all, I had an issue with the fact that you could not swap the balls with the spinning globe shape - that didn't make much sense. Second, the fact that you can open the umbrella AFTER it says "damn, that was close." The whole thing was a little misleading. Anyway now on to chapter 15 which everyone seems to be raving about.
The Main Event
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v0yce said:
Why is that?
Picked it up yesterday. Awesome so far!
So guys, what's your favorite track from the OST?
I have to give it up for The Last Desperate Struggle.
I have to give it up for The Last Desperate Struggle.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Don't have the OST, but I love whatever plays when the Inspector is around. I hope it goes on sale at some point, I really want this OST.ZealousD said:
Versipellis
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It has an enormous spoiler of one of the best puzzles in the game. Thankfully I've watched it after completing the game.stupei said:
stupei said:
It's pretty safe. I'd say the only "spoiler" in it relates to a character that's revealed in the first couple chapters. It shows the "solution" of one puzzle but not the steps to get there. There's a single line of dialog that's from the end of the game, but the background, setting, and involved characters are obscured so you lack any sort of context for it.
I will be shocked if there is no Sequel (Heck, I will be surprised if Capcom doesn't do a 3DS upport)zigg said:
The Blue people were left more or less a mystery, their plot was never really tied up. The Lady having a 6th scene most likely implies that the nation was doing other paranormal research, so likely their nation will be addressed again. Plus, the Scoth guy or how ever they spelled it the one time they said his name escaped with the fragment, I bet you he died and gained some sort of powers. I also expect some elaboration of the Digging guy's whole hook up in the cell, and maybe even some idea of where the Rock Kid went during his Escape. Plus, I want to know who was in the empty cell, there is that one line that more or less went "Well, the only dangerous one it gone now"
Versipellis
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I assume you finished the game, so:Drkirby said:
Let's assume the Blue Nation were doing some paranormal research. The reason they should do it? The "deal" Yomiel proposed to them and his human manipulations (which gave the Blues some hints about his powers). The "general" fled with the fragment, ok. But whose fragment was that? Yomiel's.
The problem is, in the "new" present, Yomiel never proposed a deal to the Blues (no revenge is sought out) and Yomiel never got hit by the meteor. Thus, probably, the "new-present" Blues don't know a thing about the meteor, and the "general" never stole the fragment, since he never had the opportunity to do so. The idea of him dying (why? his mini-sub seems 100% functional and the second torpedo is launched a lot of minutes after his departure) and somehow altering the new timeline is a bit farfetched.
The problem is, in the "new" present, Yomiel never proposed a deal to the Blues (no revenge is sought out) and Yomiel never got hit by the meteor. Thus, probably, the "new-present" Blues don't know a thing about the meteor, and the "general" never stole the fragment, since he never had the opportunity to do so. The idea of him dying (why? his mini-sub seems 100% functional and the second torpedo is launched a lot of minutes after his departure) and somehow altering the new timeline is a bit farfetched.
And there's the snazzy spoiler thread now: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=418942
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