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Godfall (PC) requires 12GB VRAM for 4K (max settings)
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GHG
Member
The same amount they must pay 90% of all other developers that don't include DLSS.
All these developers and publishers are getting rich.
Senua
Gold Member
It will. Depends on your res and texture settings, you can be smart about things ya know!
Great Hair
Banned
Yep, definitely better.
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At 1min12 to 1min13s i counted 58 frames between 2!! clear frames (I- Frames?), those 58 between both "i-frames" where blurry like after getting heavily drunk.
At one point, the whole screen was white. Motion blur and anime fans gonna like this
BlueXImpulse
Banned
Yep, definitely better.
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At 1min12 to 1min13s i counted 58 frames between 2!! clear frames (I- Frames?), those 58 between both "i-frames" where blurry like after getting heavily drunk.
At one point, the whole screen was white. Motion blur and anime fans gonna like this
Gorgeous game.
GymWolf
Member
on top of my head? 3080-3090-6800xt-6900 if we talk about TF.
ps5 is 10.something vs 30-36-i don't know amd gpus TF but they are on par with nvidia gpus so...
Wait, maybe you were talking about vram?
BlueXImpulse
Banned
None of those cards are 3x more powerful than the PS5. For argument's sake let's take the 5700XT. You think a 3080 is 3x more powerful than a 5700XT?
GymWolf
Member
They said that the game utilize amd-optimized rtx, i don't remember the name of the tech.
so maybe even with rtx on the amd cards are gonna be better?!
Great Hair
Banned
its 60fps on PS5, even at 0.25 speed it´s smooth, fluid.
GymWolf
Member
like i said, if we talk only about teraflop, 30 and 36 are triple the number of tf inside a ps5.
If you talk about vram, then no, only the 3090 is barely 2 times better.
bitbydeath
Member
Yep, definitely better.
Start of the sequence 1st i-frame
End of the sequence last i-frame
At 1min12 to 1min13s i counted 58 frames between 2!! clear frames (I- Frames?), those 58 between both "i-frames" where blurry like after getting heavily drunk.
At one point, the whole screen was white. Motion blur and anime fans gonna like this
Beautiful when you stand still.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
If you just look at teraflops like you are, then the 3090 is over 2x more powerful than the 2080ti. Except it isn't.
So you buy 3070 to play 4K, Ultra?
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Great Hair
Banned
Not as much as Nvidia paid Crytek to make AMD cards look bad in Crysis 2 by adding shit underneath the map that needed to be "tessellated" .. thus destroying the performance on AMD cards during the "Tessellation Wars"
Nvidia unofficially, officially caught cheating in Crysis 2
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21404/1 Its not official, but techreport have shown where most of the ridiculous amounts of tesselation power goes, into flat objects, or water models that aren't being shown, or concrete slabs. As techreport say, these are the most advanced flat concrete slabs...
www.overclockers.co.uk
GymWolf
Member
fair point.
I was not trying to talk shit about the ps5, i just thought that you forgot about the tf insides modern gpus.
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GHG
Member
The reality is there's not a single game out there that wouldn't benefit from DLSS since it improves image quality with no performance cost.
What is also a reality is the fact that it requires some work on the developers end along with co-operation with Nvidia to get it working and that's not something everyone wants to do.
Unless Nvidia can find a way to get it implemented across the board at the driver level we are going to continue to see just a handful of games utilising the tech.
The irony in thinking AMD are throwing money around to stop developers using features that can be used on competitor GPU's. You must have forgotten the history surrounding middleware like physx, and that's just one example.
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Calverz
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Craig...please dont embarrass yourself. I dont think i can defend you.
Mister Wolf
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cucuchu
Member
So this is VRAM allocated yeah? Not utilized, so if utilization doesn't reach above 10gb, whats the issue? (For 3080 owners) I'm at work so I can't see the content of the OP so I'm assuming that is the metric being used. Games typically use no where near the allocated VRAM. Plus the 3080 VRAM is GDDR6X with higher bandwidth than the VRAM found in the AMD cards/New consoles so total overall VRAM usage would be lower anyways...unless there is some wonky optimization of assets going on. I'm still in the camp they should of included more VRAM on the 3080 but I've yet to see real evidence in practice of the 10gb of higher bandwidth VRAM actually inhibiting performance in terms of practical VRAM usage.
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DonJuanSchlong
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Why would they? Have you not seen re2 and other games that can "allocate" more than your GPU's vram size? Check out the video a couple posts up, about the difference between allocation and utilization. They are not the same.I'm sure 3080 owners will be fine. They can just lower the texture quality.
BlueXImpulse
Banned
There isn’t one. That’s the thing.
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cucuchu
Member
I'm sure 3080 owners will be fine. They can just lower the texture quality.
If VRAM utilization is not higher than 10gb, of which 3080 has higher bandwidth memory than that of the new consoles anyways, it wouldn't matter. Games do not usually come close to eating up even 60% of the VRAM allocation. So its a complete non-issue.
Senua
Gold Member
Stop talking sense ffs you're ruining the thread.
Md Ray
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'Twas just a poke. Notice the
there. I'm aware.
Rikkori
Member
People just don't understand how held back texture quality has been in general (even many so called "HD texture packs"). To actually see 4K x 4K, that's something special and I'm very happy to see it actually happening, and when they update it to UE5 it's going to look straight up magical.
Omega Supreme Holopsicon
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but what of series x which only has 10GB fast speed ram
The newer cards have less gaming performance per teraflop.
As for vram if nvidias ssd solution aint up to par, theyll suffer, with sony the ps5 can stream dozens of GBs in mere seconds.
cucuchu
Member
I know. But I can't help but try to correct the same thing over and over. People make the same argument over and over looking at VRAM allocation vs usage and don't even take into account memory bandwidth.
SupremeHoodie
Member
4K gaming is getting close, one more generation of gpus and it’s gonna be amazing. 2022-2023 is gonna be a special year.
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nkarafo
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It's a 500$ card in 2020 so yes.
Keep in mind that VRAM limitations don't get better at low frame rates. Either it's 30 or 60fps, the moment VRAM needs to swap, you will get massive stutters. That makes the 3070 inferior to next-gen consoles at 4K, despite being more powerful. It means, it's low amount of VRAM is it's bottleneck.
MastaKiiLA
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Are PC gamers going to shit up every thread on console games that will appear on PCs? We get it. The PC will be able to handle better graphics, even if the framerate is shitty. I'm not jealous. I just don't care to invest in the improvements. And I have disposable cash. Can we separate console and PC game threads going forward? Because this is kind of annoying.
Senua
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martino
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this is a thread about pc requirements .....
Who is bringing his complex where ? i'm not wondering
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Krappadizzle
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You literally came into a PC thread to bitch about people coming into a console thread. And even so, unless the game is specifically mentioned to be running on a console, 9 times out of 10 you are almost always looking at PC footage of multiplat games.
Even still, you don't get to dictate what people can post in any thread. If you want focused video game discussion on a game, either create the thread specifically to discuss what you want, participate in the ones that are currently going, go to Gamefaqs, ignore people/post(there is a button) or shut the hell up.
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daninthemix
Member
You're an insecure fellow aren't you.
Soulblighter31
Banned
PC will handle better graphics, better framerate, better controls, better response, modding. Its just complete domination 360° Sometimes you just wanna reiterate that.
DonJuanSchlong
Banned
Are console gamers going to shit up every thread on pc version of games that are on both? This is getting annoying.
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Krisprolls
Banned
It's a mid-range card, aimed for 1440p. If you buy a mid-range card to game at 4K you need your head checked in the first place.
Krisprolls
Banned
I love how $500 is midrange now. Nvidia certainly brainwashed people pretty well. Midrange should never be more than $300, like it used to be. I paid even less for my 1070 if I remember correctly.
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GHG
Member
This is a ridiculous notion.
Ray tracing is not an Nvidia exclusive feature, nor was it created/invented by Nvidia.
Who cares what you think about prices. The reality is that mid range now is $400-500. RX 5700 Xt was a mid range card starting at $449. Looks like AMD is also brainwashing?
Your memory is fooling you because 1070 launched for $380. 970 launched for $330. See the trend?
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Krisprolls
Banned
Oh, we should care about prices. And I never said AMD did better. If we don't care they'll sell us $1000 "midrange" cards. At some point you don't get your money's worth. Sometimes it's better to wait and upgrade later. Voting with our wallet.
nkarafo
Member
No, its not midrange. That would be the 2060 or the upcoming 3060. And no, thats no low range, that would be anything from the 1650 card or lower.
Also no, i dont expect to play at 4k/ultra/60fps even with a high range card. But i should be able to play at lower fps at least. But even then the graphics need to at least fit into the damn thing.
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