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Godfall (PC) requires 12GB VRAM for 4K (max settings)
- Thread starter SantaC
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You have turned this into completely different topic now.
Krisprolls
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Ok, sorry for the off topic, that wasn't intended.
1650 is entry level. You clearly have no idea how these products are categorized.
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DonJuanSchlong
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The 50/50 ti is low range, 60/70 is mid range 80/80 ti is enthusiast (which it seems like there is no 3080 ti, so the 90 is the replacement for it, and possibly for titan as well.
Insane Metal
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And Godfall uses 12GB? Lol
VFXVeteran
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No surprise here. I mentioned a few months ago when I showed Crysis Remake, Marvel Avengers, Horizon Zero Dawn, and other games that VRAM allocation was quite large. Memory bandwidth is going to be a BIG thing going forward and beyond. The shortcut hacks won't be able to sustain the complexity of assets coming through the pipe. Here is yet again, proof of what I've stressed over and over.
VFXVeteran
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And Godfall uses 12GB? Lol
Don't know what kind of texture resolution sizes WD has.
SantaC
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Watch dogs were developed for ps4/xb genereation.
And Godfall uses 12GB? Lol
GHG
Member
Developed by Nvidia, no DLSS.
Must have been paid off by AMD.
Then there's COD where there's no DLSS.
And F1 2020 which is a codemasters game with an AMD marketing partnership but yet... Miraculously it has DLSS support.
Your point stands... Exclusively in your own head.
marquimvfs
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Now you know how an AMD buyer feels when Nvidia "partners" with devs. (Even if isn't clear if that's really the case here)
VFXVeteran
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Everything else about the game looks to be really clean and typical of all other games out. The added 4k textures are, of course, more detailed than any console equivalent game..
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Mister Wolf
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ChuckeRearmed
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Absurd. Why? Too many 4k textures or something?
GHG
Member
What category is that? The one where AMD paid them off to not have DLSS or the one where they didn't?
How do you explain F1 2020 having DLSS despite codemasters already having a deal with AMD? Did AMD's cheque bounce?
Krappadizzle
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Not really proof of anything tbh. It's more speculation, and you've still really yet to "prove" that VRAM in the 3080 and below will be an issue. You've constantly talked about allocation, but that's not proof, that's just that, allocation. I'd like to see actual "use" in-game, not hypothetical "allocation" that show's nothing. You could allocate a ton of memory for a ton of different programs, doesn't mean the game/program/etc actually needs it. I say all this in the nicest, non-condescending way possible. What does your overlay say is actually physically being used for memory in all those games you mentioned?
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geordiemp
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And Godfall uses 12GB? Lol
Watch dogs has textures ?
Valued Gamer
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Will be interesting to see how much better optimized the consoles will be memory wise, with their SSDs and MS with SFS and XVA.
VFXVeteran
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You will be hard pressed to find articles of actual usage of VRAM in a game. In fact, I wouldn't even try to expect that you'd get these kinds of readings unless you have a special tool to monitor that.
Games will allocate based on a logical reason that they may use it. Maybe not all at the same time as you'll definitely dump pointers when not in use. Allocation of memory showed less with my 2080Ti than with my 3090 with the same game. That's not for nothing.
I do think 3080 may suffer from 10G VRAM usage but we'll need someone to benchmark that to really tell. I mean it is obvious that some games will go past the 10G VRAM this generation - swapping will slow performance.
VFXVeteran
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They aren't going to be better memory wise. They'll just use less of it. Instead of 4k texures you'll get 2k textures. That's not a good thing.
Krappadizzle
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I hope that becomes a standard measurement going forward as it may have an impact on people's purchases. I do think memory will be an issue eventually, I just don't think it'll be an issue for a few years and well after the next round of cards come out.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
I don't, I got a 3070 and I can't care less about this. 1440p is where it's at for me. I just find it funny and a bit pathetic (whoever does it). Incidentally, AMD "partners" with devs just as much as Nvidia and always does.
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Oppoi
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I'd love to hear the opinion from someone who leave the wiping to themselves and not one of their servants.
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ClosBSAS
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they are yes....if a 3080 is twice as powerful as a 2080ti, ps5 has equivalent of 2080....so yes, at least, LEAST, 3 times more powerful in raw computeing power than ps5.
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Monkeygourmet
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Why all the whinging?
Are you not a Master Race?
Are you not a Master Race?
Mister Wolf
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All races have infighting.
BluRayHiDef
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Then get a 3090.
Monkeygourmet
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A new console generation is *the* worst time to get a new GPU.
You need to let the new consoles lead and see what develops.
I still remember getting burned buying a GTX 780 on release when the PS4 was settling in. Because Sony got 8gb of DDR5 in the PS4 even my build with a 780 and 16Gb couldn’t run newer titles as well as it should due to the insufficient memory on the card itself.
Shortly after the TI cards started getting released to make up for this but it was a complete waste.
The same will happen this gen, as always. 3080 is a stop gap for the real next gen cards coming next.
You need to let the new consoles lead and see what develops.
I still remember getting burned buying a GTX 780 on release when the PS4 was settling in. Because Sony got 8gb of DDR5 in the PS4 even my build with a 780 and 16Gb couldn’t run newer titles as well as it should due to the insufficient memory on the card itself.
Shortly after the TI cards started getting released to make up for this but it was a complete waste.
The same will happen this gen, as always. 3080 is a stop gap for the real next gen cards coming next.
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Mister Wolf
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No way in hell there wont be a 3080 Super in response to the performance and PRICE of that RX 6900.
GreyHand23
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Bookmarked. This won’t age well.
BluRayHiDef
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The following is relevant for those who own or are interested in the RTX 3080.
Here's a screen-capture of the benchmark results for Watch Dogs: Legion running on the RTX 3080. Don't mind that the data displayed by MSI Afterburner/ Rivatuner designates the GPU as the RTX 3090; I didn't relabel the data entries when I had the RTX 3080 installed. Anyhow, notice that the amount of VRAM that's listed as having been used by the benchmark is 10.13 GBs out of 9.84GBs. Is this an error or did the benchmark pull the additional 0.29 GBs from general system RAM (10.13 GBs - 9.84 GBs = 0.29 GBs)?
What makes me think that the benchmark did this is the amount of system RAM that's listed as having been used when the benchmark ran on the RTX 3080 relative to when it ran on the RTX 3090 with the same settings: 7.32 GBs vs 6.06 GBs, which is a difference of 1.26 GBs. Obviously 1.26 GBs is more than 0.29 GBs, but I'm assuming that the benchmark needed to duplicate the 0.29 GBs of data in order to minimize the amount of time that it took to find the data since system RAM is much slower than VRAM.
What do you guys think?
By the way, Task manager confirms the benchmarks use of more than 10 GBs:
Here's a screen-capture of the benchmark results for Watch Dogs: Legion running on the RTX 3080. Don't mind that the data displayed by MSI Afterburner/ Rivatuner designates the GPU as the RTX 3090; I didn't relabel the data entries when I had the RTX 3080 installed. Anyhow, notice that the amount of VRAM that's listed as having been used by the benchmark is 10.13 GBs out of 9.84GBs. Is this an error or did the benchmark pull the additional 0.29 GBs from general system RAM (10.13 GBs - 9.84 GBs = 0.29 GBs)?
What makes me think that the benchmark did this is the amount of system RAM that's listed as having been used when the benchmark ran on the RTX 3080 relative to when it ran on the RTX 3090 with the same settings: 7.32 GBs vs 6.06 GBs, which is a difference of 1.26 GBs. Obviously 1.26 GBs is more than 0.29 GBs, but I'm assuming that the benchmark needed to duplicate the 0.29 GBs of data in order to minimize the amount of time that it took to find the data since system RAM is much slower than VRAM.
What do you guys think?
By the way, Task manager confirms the benchmarks use of more than 10 GBs:
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BluRayHiDef
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Why, it'll still look better on PC.
BluRayHiDef
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But how soon? As of now, an RTX 3090 is his best option.
M_A_C
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Not if I don’t wanna upgrade my PC for thousands of doll hairs.
rnlval
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Watch Dog Legion is a cross-generation game e.g. PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X and Series S, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, Google Stadia, and Microsoft Windows.
And Godfall uses 12GB? Lol
Godfall is only available for PS5 and Windows.
rnlval
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I wouldn't buy RTX 3080 with 10 GB of VRAM when my current MSI RTX 2080 Ti Gaming X Trio (AIB OC) has 11 GB VRAM.
RTX 3090 is priced like a Titan RTX. I rather wait for RTX 3080 Ti with 20 GB-to-22 GB of VRAM.
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Senua
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inflation
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They cracked the same problem with different methods. If you watch The Road to PS5 or follow some of the patents discussion here days ago, you would know more.
xPikYx
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Bu****it, I played modded games like the witcher or fallout 4 plenty of 4k or even 8k textures and never heard of a problem like this, this is simply marketing
rnlval
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20 GB config leads to a 320-bit bus configuration.
Note that I have two gaming PCs (with RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 2080 respectively) and one of them doubles as a Blender 3D hardware RT rig. I plan to buy RTX 3080 Ti AIB OC and RX 6800 XT AIB OC.
BluRayHiDef
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Contrary to what others have said, this game looks incredible with those 4K x 4K textures. It looks truly next-gen; I'm definitely getting this for PC.
Great Hair
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nkarafo
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You are wrong. There are lower tier cards than the 1650 but whatever, even if everything you say is correct, this game still makes the 3080 10GB obsolete. Is that a high enough level card for you?
BluRayHiDef
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It should be great for 1440p, but not for 4K.