Coreda
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I'm not sure how illegal it would have even been. He bought something online and put it on the internet. Don't think anything there is illegal.
I'm not sure how illegal it would have even been. He bought something online and put it on the internet. Don't think anything there is illegal.
I think, morally, the right thing to do would have been to release it publicly. After all, isn't the optimum age for Copyright something like 14 years? Or maybe 24? idfk. It's been a while since I read about it. Point is, the more stuff that's out there, the better for everyone on the whole. So, morally, giving the source code away would have been the best thing to do.
Legally, he did the right thing, and I can understand not wanting to go up against the legal army behind Blizzard.
I think, morally, the right thing to do would have been to release it publicly. After all, isn't the optimum age for Copyright something like 14 years? Or maybe 24? idfk. It's been a while since I read about it. Point is, the more stuff that's out there, the better for everyone on the whole. So, morally, giving the source code away would have been the best thing to do.
Legally, he did the right thing, and I can understand not wanting to go up against the legal army behind Blizzard.
If you released it anonymously how would anyone pay you.
They did
Maybe I don't quite have a grasp of the extent to which these mods would work, but Starcraft 1 already seems pretty modable. To what extent are we talking about changing things, exactly?
Wow, there are actually people in this thread that think he should've uploaded this to the internet, calling it the right thing to do. Interesting. I guess if you get something second-hand it's perfectly fine to share it with everyone. It's also pretty hilarious the absolute badasses saying they would've held out for a better deal from Blizzard. As if a "better deal" from Blizzard wouldn't entail a lawsuit against a fucking juggernaut. Good luck with that, should you happen upon the Diablo 2 source code or some such. I expect you to fall on that sword!
I can understand it too. And yeah, that would be neat. I think what would be more likely to happen is that Starcraft would've been ported to every system that could possibly run it, much like Doom has been. It'd be great to see more games have their source codes released. Officially, at least.I would say that giving the disk back to Blizzard is the right move, especially since Blizzard is making a remake of Starcraft, but I can definitely understand why people would want the source code uploaded to the Internet, it could lead to some amazing mods and even full games based on the source code.
People in that reddit thread are salty as fuck.
And post a pic on Reddit for rageI'd have kept the disc and used it as a coaster.
With Starcraft Remastered coming out, and the way it is multiplayer compatible with the original, this 1998 source code actually might've been disruptive if it were released. It's crazy to think about but he legitimately saved Blizzard a big headache by just giving it back.
Yep...All of that garbage swag VS a legendary piece of gaming history...
You're not thinking about a smart way to handle the situation.For those saying he should of uploaded it, how long do you really think that it stay before Ceist and Desist letters and Lawsuits would come out of the woodwork.
The most important thing that should be ensured above all else for anyone who comes across something like this is that the data gets out there, so people can do cool things with it. It just so happens that you can potentially collect a bunch of money while still doing that, so how does any living soul look at this and think the guy has done anything other than made a horrible mistake? Blizzard is not UNICEF.While I would've loved to see the contents of the disc, the guy did the right thing. Curious how the disc got out though.
Lol, who even has disc drives anymore
Getting money for selling the disc on ebay is just a bonus. If you get lucky, you get a lot, otherwise whatever. Blizzard might as well have given him nothing as far as I'm concerned. You couldn't pay me to go to blizzcon, and $250 in their stores is so close to pointless I don't see how anyone in this thread considers it a nice reward for anything. If you care about blizzard games you already own them.
People in that reddit thread are salty as fuck.
And he's rewarded big time.
Sell just the disc on ebay. Sell for way more than blizzard would have payed out, to some collector, who cares what he does with it, because...
I wouldn't let my actual name or IP address get within 100 feet of any account in any way connected to that disc, because any major games publisher should always be expected to be aggressively litigious at all times.
That's all fair. At least we're on the same page here. Devise a way to sell the original disc and make sure the data reaches the internet in a way that is not legally actionable. escrow and bitcoins maybe.No one would use eBay for this. Given step 3 it would already have too much attention and be closed early (this has occurred in the past). But let's say it was a less visible auction there may be buyers who'd want PayPal's buyer protection in case it was a scam (you'd have zero feedback remember), and PayPal has a withdrawal limit for unverified accounts (those that haven't had a bank acc./CC confirmed), not to mention PayPal locks such accounts commonly if they trip their algorithms with unusual activity. That said, I doubt either party would want to use something connected with their real identities.
It would be hard to organize payment while ensuring the buyer isn't scammed for someone selling this while trying to remain anonymous. Assuming this sold for a sizable sum the buyer would have to trust you completely with whatever payment they used.
I think, morally, the right thing to do would have been to release it publicly. After all, isn't the optimum age for Copyright something like 14 years? Or maybe 24? idfk. It's been a while since I read about it. Point is, the more stuff that's out there, the better for everyone on the whole. So, morally, giving the source code away would have been the best thing to do.
Legally, he did the right thing, and I can understand not wanting to go up against the legal army behind Blizzard.
You're not thinking about a smart way to handle the situation.
Smarter:
- Back up the disc
- Get VPN
- Create reddit throwaway to tell people about the disc. If it gets attention, that helps step 4.
- Sell just the disc on ebay. Sell for way more than blizzard would have payed out, to some collector, who cares what he does with it, because...
- Weeks or months later, if buyer hasn't done this already, upload torrent. For modders, for justice, for future generations.
People in that thread calling him selfish are some of the most entitled peasants I have seen in a while.
entitled peasants? do you see a lot of them, are you a medieval lord?
Wow, there are actually people in this thread that think he should've uploaded this to the internet, calling it the right thing to do. Interesting.
So, sorry for this probably stupid question but what is so significant with source code? What's makes part of said code and is not present on say the retail disc version?
Retail version of the game would have to be reverse engineered out of Blizzards format and out of binary format to even be functional.
This version would have all the code, how its compiled into the main game, comments by devs, trade secrets etc. The fact that you can make a mod based on the original game, or have people modify the game so it can still be run on different servers is what makes source code so significant.
However in this case, I find its not very significant at all. The IP is owned by Blizzard, the disc is stolen, it was never released to the public to begin with so no one has any right to "preserve" it or whatever excuse they come up with.
The original game is being remastered and will be supported, so people can still play that. The original game is also available to download for free. So to be fair, there is no legit reason to why it should be "preserved". The company still releases the game, they havent gone bust or anything.