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Gyakuten Saiban 5 (Ace Attorney 5): Limited Editions announced, boxart, 7/25 release
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AA4 is the only game Takumi worked on with most of people still working on this series, unlike the first three that he clearly had complete control over. He might not be a god, but this series is clearly so loved because of him.
I think the main thing that will suffer with Takumi's absence is the strength of the characters. My biggest letdown with AAI/2 was the dull characterization of everyone (minus maybe Calisto Yew?). Kokone (with her dull mechanic) is shaping up to be a continuation of that trend.
Takumi's dialogue is generally stronger too.
Earlier news showed Phoenix as the sole defense attorney, and Apollo's reveal (in the injured/Raiden outfit) also seemed to suggest that he was going to be taking more of a side role for the game. New screens seem to confirm that he's the player character for at least one case.
Edit: I guess that's not what that person was getting at, but... Oh well.
Takumi's dialogue is generally stronger too.
Earlier news showed Phoenix as the sole defense attorney, and Apollo's reveal (in the injured/Raiden outfit) also seemed to suggest that he was going to be taking more of a side role for the game. New screens seem to confirm that he's the player character for at least one case.
Edit: I guess that's not what that person was getting at, but... Oh well.
Takumi was not involved with the writing for AAI. He was involved with AA4, but I think there were others as well. (Wikipedia lists three writers for Apollo Justice, while Takumi was the sole writer for AA 1,2, and 3.)
In any case, the early backgrounds (trope-laden Japan village?) are definitely giving me more of an AAI vibe than an AA vibe, which is depressing. I want to be excited for this game but I wish they had brought Takumi in.
Hours Left
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Not a single AA game has bombed in the US despite Capcom trying to falsely throw AAI under the bus. Not one.
And if it bombs...
This game will do just fine. Capcom needs to show a bit more faith in a series that has such a dedicated fan base. Just because this doesn't pull in RE type sales doesn't mean it's not worth it.
I'm hoping that they will soon realize this and finally give us the missing piece of the puzzle, AAI2.
As a side note, PW vs Layton is entirely in Level-5's hands. Hopefully they'll get on board.
Oh I know, I remember Sven saying AAI sold less than Okamiden. I know it didn't sell badly but...well I dunno how to put it. It's like some of the best things just randomly tank or are just forgotten.
Besides that there was this is as well http://www.siliconera.com/2012/09/17/ace-attorney-5-sales-forecasts-are-aggressive-say-capcom-usa/
What's sad is that RE has only gone downhill since 5 (Except Revelations) but it's still more relevant than AA... I need AAI2 Capcom
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
I seriously don't understand why they haven't Kickstarted an AAI2 localization. It's guaranteed to rake in the cash and will generate interest and excitement for the future of the series, ie free publicity.
I can dig it.
But lmao the prosecutor's hair. I know lots of people have had goofier hair but never a prosecutor. Not even the ~rock god~ prosecutor looked so goofy. Klavier was actually pretty conservative for a rock star prosecutor.
But dude...your hurr. Get that shit trimmed.
Edit: Also, still hoping the writers can come back from the terrible AAI, but AAI was so bad, I don't have much hope. Will play, regardless, and wish for the best, though.
But lmao the prosecutor's hair. I know lots of people have had goofier hair but never a prosecutor. Not even the ~rock god~ prosecutor looked so goofy. Klavier was actually pretty conservative for a rock star prosecutor.
But dude...your hurr. Get that shit trimmed.
Edit: Also, still hoping the writers can come back from the terrible AAI, but AAI was so bad, I don't have much hope. Will play, regardless, and wish for the best, though.
Hours Left
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Considering the Darkstalkers Resurrection situation, it would seem that Capcom has unrealistic expectations for everything.
Actually, I intended to get at both ideas, though the resulting post was too bland to suggest much, since the sarcasm was too hard to detect. I was also not expecting to have another character being playable as an investigator for segments of the game outside of the courtroom.
I want to believe. That art isn't an exact replica of the pose, but I'm sure Zero has done that pose once he's cleared stages in the PSX games.
Oni Link 666
Member
This guy reminds me of Edgeworth.
timetokill
Banned
Soooo awesome. I can't wait for this to come stateside
charlequin
Banned
Honestly, I think AAI2 (which is really more of a strategic platform decision than anything else) is giving people a wrong impression here. I don't really foresee a world where AA6 doesn't see a US release, absent a very different reception for this game than its predecessors. Every Ace Attorney game has easily sold enough in America to justify the localization.
I hesitate to speculate as to the motives behind this statement, but as discussed elsewhere in the thread, this was actually just not really true.
There are two absolutely baffling non localizations at the end of the DS era; AAI2 and Fire Emblem 12. Both weren't even that late in the time frame and would have easily beaten out the last monster selling title (Black 2/White 2) by a year or more. Both games had same engine prequels that people assume weren't big sellers but in fact did in line with the rest of the series if perhaps a bit lower.
Hours Left
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There is nothing stopping them from porting AAI2 to something else besides the DS. A 3DS compilation, an eShop release, even an iOS release. Just get it out somehow.
I've made this comparison before, but it's really like they removed a book from a series. Every single game has been connected to past titles in some way. This is an ongoing story. And as it stands right now, fans outside Japan are at a disadvantage.
But having said all that, I still think we can get AAI2 in English. I'm hoping that the hype and support for AA5 will reinvigorate the fan base into letting Capcom know that we still want the whole series. (What I'm really hoping for is that some characters/plot elements from AAI2 will feature prominently in AA5, bringing even more attention to the situation.)
Complete and totally laziness. Sadly, both NoA and Capcom like to skate by on the least amount of effort possible. Thankfully, that seems to be changing lately (more so for Nintendo), but they still have a lot of mistakes to remedy. AAI2 and FE12 being chief among them.
Auron_Kale
Member
I almost want to import the figure bundle but since I don't have a JP 3DS... Yeah, I think I'll wait to see what Capcom USA does first.
Still, can't wait for this game to come out... It's beautiful.
Still, can't wait for this game to come out... It's beautiful.
OmnipotentO
Member
Oh god! I need dis!! This will be a day 1 for me when/if it comes to the US.
Hours Left
Member
It's already announced for the US.
Shadow Ranger
Member
Awesome! Waiting for places to open with pre-orders...
Missed the AAI2 one with Edgeworth but will be on this! Just want that figure.
Meanwhile, I will continue to play Apollo Justice (just started it after a massive delay in AA games).
Missed the AAI2 one with Edgeworth but will be on this! Just want that figure.
Meanwhile, I will continue to play Apollo Justice (just started it after a massive delay in AA games).
mullet2000
Member
I don't think so. They probably could get it out around November if they wanted to, but considering pokemon and a bunch of other big 3DS games are around there, plus all the next gen excitement sucking money out of people's wallets, that would probably be a bad idea.
I could see a February release or something close to that, if I had to guess.
giancarlo123x
Banned
This game makes me want a 3DS.
Risk Breaker
Member
Takumi IS God, not interested in this until after it comes out. AA1+2+3 vs AA4 and Investigations is EXACTLY the reason I'm not expecting this to be really great without Takumi.
Magicpaint
Member
Can't wait etc. That prosecutor looks badass etc. Gimme the game etc.
Personally I was hugely disappointed with Ghost Trick and Takumi was still involved in 4 and 2 which weren't faultless by any means. Though 1 and 3 are exceptional, sure. That doesn't mean this won't be great when there is a consensus that AAI 2 is fantastic too.
Personally I was hugely disappointed with Ghost Trick and Takumi was still involved in 4 and 2 which weren't faultless by any means. Though 1 and 3 are exceptional, sure. That doesn't mean this won't be great when there is a consensus that AAI 2 is fantastic too.
slaughterking
Member
Phoenix looks so business. I love that.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
You probably shouldn't count the Pokemon games as the DS's end of viability point. NoA couldn't avoid releasing them, even if they wanted to. It's not just their decision and no other series can match its popularity.
AAI2 was mostly screwed by timing. Capcom seemed to make a very conscious corporate decision to abandon the DS for the 3DS and rushed their last two DS titles to market in March 2011. Having released in Feb. 2011, AAI2 was kinda screwed.
Fire Emblem 12 definitely had time to release before the 3DS, but Nintendo seemed to have lost confidence in the series and probably diverted resources to the Dragon Quest games they were forced to published. It doesn't help either that NoA had suffered several RPG games bombing in a row, likely convincing them that the genre was no longer viable on the DS.
Otherwise, the two series were in very similar places: Series in niche genres whose sales had been declining steadily since the original release and were not generating the same enthusiasm as previous titles. Add recent game bombings to that and you can see that NoA and Capcom had no confidence in those two franchises selling. Nintendo was obviously proven wrong with Awakening so the best hope is that same happens with AA5 and Capcom.
cj_iwakura
Member
What the heck would he be up to if not this? It's as baffling as Kaneko not doing SMTIV.
Nocturnowl
Member
I knew that I wanted this game but I didn't realise just how much I wanted it until now, the waiting game is going to be painful.
He was working on the Layton crossover. That game and AA5 were both in development at the same time.
I wish the Layton crossover looked as good as this game does.
Wonder why he would choose to go with PL vs. AA instead of AA5.
Magicpaint
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Jacksonlee
Member
anyone else notice the quality of the 3d models in contrast with the PW VS PL ?
i was disappointed with the recent layton game for the 3ds because of that.
i was disappointed with the recent layton game for the 3ds because of that.
From the first trailer it was immediately obvious that AA5's 3D models were significantly better and faithful to the original games than PL vs. AA's (which actually look relatively bad in comparison).
Apollo was the weakest for me.