Pinko Marx
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I thought it was called Ironsights...
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Halo 5 beta clips leak (sprint, ADS is *not* COD-style) (more clips and info added)
- Thread starter DopeyFish
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lol people saying they'll remove it
Halo 4 was trashed because it was getting close to Halo 4. 343 said that they are listening and learning from their mistakes.
Then this happens. So... where was the listening? Sprint made the game shit. ADS will make the game even more shit.
Halo 4 was trashed because it was getting close to Halo 4. 343 said that they are listening and learning from their mistakes.
Then this happens. So... where was the listening? Sprint made the game shit. ADS will make the game even more shit.
If only evolve wouldn't mean "become like any other shooter out there." Halo has plenty of room for evolution, however evolution shouldn't be misunderstood as giving up your identity.
Jessie.Bristol
Member
As I said previously, I don't mind 343i exploring new ideas for Halo 5 as long as there is Classic Playlists. What I saw of that leak looked like gameplay straight out of Destiny. It's probably a good thing they are having a Beta so early. But I feel that they can keep those changes as long as they're relegated to their own playlists. Best of both worlds I feel could be best.
I don't get why it's so commonplace either. The gunfights I've had in Halo were 100x more exciting than any COD MP scenario I've encountered.
ADS caters to people without skills?
Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
Games need to change. Don't see the issue, these are standard and Halo has had spirit for a while.
BLUElightCory
Member
My feelings as well. Kind of shocked at the melodrama and outrage on display in here, but I'm also not a Halo fanatic. It is the proper way to fire a weapon and a lot of shooter players appreciate the ability to do it.
Altered Juice
Member
didn't frankie let players spill the beans about sprint a few weeks back? not surprised but as for ads....no...no!
Latvian Hitman
Member
Could they remove it? Sure. But 343i already knows fully well that core fans of the series don't want sprint or ADS in the game, yet here they are. So.......I wouldn't hold my breath.
They've been making it pretty clear for the last few years that they're simply not interested in catering to longtime fans of the series with the new titles. They're going to chase the COD crowd into the grave and the rest of us can go fuck ourselves.
At least we get the MCC....
soulassssns
Banned
I play Halo and still do not get why it is offensive. No what?
FunkyLounge
Member
COMBAT EVOLVED
iconoclast
Member
This. I thought they finally understood what made Halo great considering they've done so much right with the MCC. Guess I was wrong.
Oh well, at least we'll be able to play Halo 1, 2, and 3 online for the rest of the generation.
Look at the Halo 3 multiplayer drop off, and the Halo 4 drop off. Guess which one lasted longer?
Hint: The one that didn't try to be Call of Duty and gave fans what they want.
Nobody cares about that gata. You know how it is.
Feels like a zoom. Sights are just in view. Who cares I guess. Willing to give it a shot.
This is exactly why I don't understand how Titanfall's mechanics made it through QA. How do they create an arena shooter, then force everyone to completely stop to fire? Defies all rational thought, except that they have to target a certain demographic at the expense of good game design.
Arguments hold true for Halo as well, which was originally designed as an arena shooter for consoles.
Significantly easier to aim when you and your opponent are rooted in place.
Easton Dark
Member
I wonder if 343 really doesn't get it, or if they're being forced to change.
PhoenixDawn
Member
Well at least we have MCC as one last good reminder of what Halo actually was. Sad to see it turn into a COD game in space, but I guess that was expected given what we already saw in Halo 4.
SDCowboy
Member
I don't play it anymore, but I certainly did for years. I much prefer aiming down sights.
because it allows shitty players to have a better chance at hitting things
it's the trend in gaming and people support this shit. more coddling, more hand holding, more ways to appease horrendous players who get annoyed they can't acquire the skill sets to compete, and so they ruin it for the rest of us who actually want exciting and engaging skill-based combat.
Not sure why people are mad.
I don't play Halo, but what's wrong with ADS...? It's not like you're forced to use it.
And it's all of a sudden a cod clone? Because it has ADS? The fuck?
And sprinting? That's... That's a bad thing? You guys do realise you don't have to sprint either right?
So lost...
I don't play Halo, but what's wrong with ADS...? It's not like you're forced to use it.
And it's all of a sudden a cod clone? Because it has ADS? The fuck?
And sprinting? That's... That's a bad thing? You guys do realise you don't have to sprint either right?
So lost...
iron sights are a type of sighting device
dancrane212
Member
Going to hope the ADS was just a reskin of scoping from the old game. This is really disappointing news if it's as bad as it sounds.
It lets people who aren't very good at moving and shooting while aiming at a fast moving target shooting back do better, because it removes most of what I just described.
Thank you.
This whole time, I'm rewatching it for advertisements, but couldn't find anything. -_-
theSlacker
Member
Not having ADS isn't some archaic game design relic from the past thing. It is a gameplay choice that makes a game play completely different then games that do use an ADS system.
Beelzebufo
Banned
And adding ADS shouldn't be misunderstood as giving up your identity lol. I'm guessing you bought Halo way back when because of how much you loved it's use of hip firing?
BabyFaceKillah
Member
ADS and Sprint huh.... Yeah I ain't fucking with it I guess ill just stick with the MCC
Stopmotionkai
Neo Member
I should clarify. I meant judging the quality of the game itself and not features like sprint or Ads. My apologies.
legacyzero
Banned
Oh. Well this would be surprising if they actually adhered to this, knowing how many betas worked last gen.
Yes you are. ADS typically means hip-fire is pitifully inaccurate and players need to drastically slow down their movement in order to hit anything.
On the off chance this is just the visual appearance of zoom as it works in other Halo games, then they only half-ruined it by keeping sprint.
Poodlestrike
Banned
In all fairness, Sprint was pretty far down the list of Halo 4's problems compared to stuff like loadouts, random weapon spawns, etc.
Elginer
Member
WTF. Dis aint gonna end well.
Codeacious
Banned
I'm sure anyone would agree with that, but the way it's evolving seems like a very hard swing from the traditional pace and feel for Halo, which will both drive away fans and perhaps result in a game that feels awkward overall if 343's trying to go for a 'middle ground' between Halo and CoD/BF/etc.
Let's not freak out too much until we see more of it.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
That's it, I'm writing a fucking letter. Where is my stationary.
SoapNickTavish
Member
Halo...
...it's finished?
...it's finished?
BibiMaghoo
Member
It's certainly a feature that makes sense and is justified from my perspective. People do aim down weapon sites, and have done since the creation of the firearm. It makes less sense to exclude it than include it. I think there is too much adversity to adopting features in games that are popular and common, because by extension, it generally means a mechanic is successful, and wanted. I cannot speak to the way this may change a Halo game, as my experience with them is extremely limited.
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