Samurai G0SU
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Halo 5 Launch Day Multiplayer Playlist Revealed
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The way your comment about wanting the dev to explain decisions also implies it's a matter of criticism and honesty seems like insight into your frustration.
A superficial variant among a species that's part of a galaxy-reaching coalition is one of the noteworthy criticisms you have for a studio. That doesn't sound like it needs justification on the level you're demanding. It sounds like you want things in subsequent games to always be exactly the same, even if it makes sense in that universe, and is more interesting for the people creating the art.
Thoughts:
-fuck yes to incentivizing weekend playlists and double exp again
-team doubles has far and away proved its wrote to be a permanent playlist. There's no valid excuse not to have it other than it wasn't given enough dev time. Extremely disappointing.
-no infection? Come on, that's a good playlist to have at launch. Is it even in the game?
-the lack of assault, koth, oddball etc. is far and away the biggest disappointment about this game. If it's not in by at least 2 weeks after launch the game will seriously start bleeding players. I am vey fortunate to know just how fucking incredible ctf is in halo 5, but it won't be enough to keep me around playing past 2 weeks.
-I'm okay with testing breakout in HCS
-what's the deal with radar? Is it a sprintdar?
-overall I'm disappointed with the day one playlists. This came is lacking variety and content at this point. At least acknowledge the existence of some points of concern please.
We are not far off from waiting weeks, or months till doubles, assault, koth, oddball, big team battle, and more.
I do love halo 5, having played it recently I can safely say slayer and ctf are fucking fantastic and the game is great to play, imo, but we are now trending a very dangerous line. One that is similar to 4 and mcc, all for the sake of extending engagement or because not enough time was simply put into these playlists and game types.
Sorry for the typos, on the phone.
-fuck yes to incentivizing weekend playlists and double exp again
-team doubles has far and away proved its wrote to be a permanent playlist. There's no valid excuse not to have it other than it wasn't given enough dev time. Extremely disappointing.
-no infection? Come on, that's a good playlist to have at launch. Is it even in the game?
-the lack of assault, koth, oddball etc. is far and away the biggest disappointment about this game. If it's not in by at least 2 weeks after launch the game will seriously start bleeding players. I am vey fortunate to know just how fucking incredible ctf is in halo 5, but it won't be enough to keep me around playing past 2 weeks.
-I'm okay with testing breakout in HCS
-what's the deal with radar? Is it a sprintdar?
-overall I'm disappointed with the day one playlists. This came is lacking variety and content at this point. At least acknowledge the existence of some points of concern please.
We are not far off from waiting weeks, or months till doubles, assault, koth, oddball, big team battle, and more.
I do love halo 5, having played it recently I can safely say slayer and ctf are fucking fantastic and the game is great to play, imo, but we are now trending a very dangerous line. One that is similar to 4 and mcc, all for the sake of extending engagement or because not enough time was simply put into these playlists and game types.
Sorry for the typos, on the phone.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
Thank you for adding SWAT cause I suck at regular slayer.
LegalEagleMike
Member
Oh, BigShow is back?
Nah, just dropping some knowledge bombs and then I'm out.
No meaningful discourse is going to come from 'FUCK YOU YOU RUINED HALO' as a starting point. As for the change in aesthetics, different artists and different teams want to create different things. They make what they like the most. Just because people then don't agree with that, doesn't mean 343 is being dishonest about it.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Do you want them to make you a cup of tea and give you a couple of chocolate hobnobs whilst they go through there development analysis with you?
I bet you Frankie knows how to makes a great cup of tea, its how we Scots have always resolved our differences, that and the odd Glasgow kiss when needed.
lol ur dum
ViewtifulJC
Banned
good
LegalEagleMike
Member
I recoiled in disgust.
They've explained the reasons behind the playlist decisions. They've been posted in this thread... There's no reason for folks to be acting like snobby little jerks...
Folks can provide constructive criticism without the poor attitude... 343i welcomes it...
As far as your aesthetic issues... Chalk it up to having new artists... Bungie is gone, 343i is here... A jackal is a jackal. Shoot them all in the face, and then they'll all look the same...
You call that knowledge? Lol
TheOnlyMook
Member
I'm really excited to jump in Day 1. The amount of maps that are on disc will be enough to learn and keep me going for the first few weeks/months. I obviously think the launch playlists could use some slight tweaking (maybe no Breakout in Team Arena, even though I'm personally really excited for Breakout), but for the most part are completely acceptable. Some of you asking for separate Grifball and Ricochet playlists on day one are delusional.
343i are implementing these launch playlists based on more than just throwing darts at a dartboard blindfolded. They are basing their launch playlists off of population numbers as well as pro-team and community feedback. Obviously these playlists will rotate in and out frequently and we'll see the return of Infection, Doubles, Team Snipers and other favorites that I'm looking forward to as well. It would be nice to have all these playlists day one, but it just splinters the user base further and to be honest I would rather just spend the first few weeks getting acclimated to all the new maps and features.
Halo is a billion different things to a billion different people. Trying to satisfy everyone is a task I don't envy at all.
343i are implementing these launch playlists based on more than just throwing darts at a dartboard blindfolded. They are basing their launch playlists off of population numbers as well as pro-team and community feedback. Obviously these playlists will rotate in and out frequently and we'll see the return of Infection, Doubles, Team Snipers and other favorites that I'm looking forward to as well. It would be nice to have all these playlists day one, but it just splinters the user base further and to be honest I would rather just spend the first few weeks getting acclimated to all the new maps and features.
Halo is a billion different things to a billion different people. Trying to satisfy everyone is a task I don't envy at all.
NoLongerALurker
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Warzone Assault does sound pretty wicked, but with Oddball & CTF being my mainstays since Halo 3, I'm hoping an Objective Playlist will be added. Also, it's odd that an Infection/Flood Playlist is absent.
DanteThePyro
Neo Member
10/10 post, Frank.
Can we get an idea on what the window will be for other game types to be introduced? Are we talking weeks before Koth, Oddball, etc are rolled out or longer?
They could, you know, release a breakdown of what went wrong with MCC like they said they woul-
Oh wait, they'll never be finished patching it. Guess we'll never see it.
Bits N Pieces
Member
Got em.
Now go back to patching the MCC; I'm assuming it's you doing it because, well...
Hmm yes because 343 Reach, Halo 4 and MCC all had great playlist management. Looks like they are continuing their stellar pedigree with Halo 5.
I think they're going to start talking about schedules soon but I've been told "soon" for stuff like Doubles, so definitely weeks rather than months.
Are you happy that the thread is now about you instead of playlists?
Gnome Scat
Member
A little bit light on the objective playlists, but it'll do for launch.
What are we going to talk about in regards to the playlists? All the gametypes that aren't there?
DanteThePyro
Neo Member
Cool, thanks for the info.
PetulantChild
Banned
I'm not insulting them, and that's not really a good or mature thing to do in my opinion, but the people hurling insults or complaining in angry ways shouldn't just be told to "suck it up" either in most cases. People who complain like that are most likely huge fans and that's why they are reacting that way. The best way to go about it is to understand these peoples problems, explain the reasons things are the way they are, and then speak with them about possible alternatives or compromises, not to dismiss them as "toxic". Also, the reason I think 343 needs to explain these things is because they came into a universe that they didn't create and changed a bunch of things that had been consistent for the most part without giving good reasons why they decided they should be changed. It would be like JJ Abrahms making the Milennium Falcoln smooth and shiny and then when Star Wars fans ask why he just says "we felt like it".
draughn101
Member
Half full are you kidding me? 39 free maps. That's a joke of a comment.
Again
R6 11 no SP
Battlefront 12 No SP
COD BO 3 6 maps revealed.
You are getting above and beyond content for 2015. It's just not the content you want.
I love the playlists. I want to play everything exactly the way they have it. It's all great. If they change it to what you want I'll pitch a fit and decry the games content.
Steelyuhas
Member
We could talk about lightly carbonated canned grapefruit soda instead.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Christ people, how about we get back on topic. This is why we can't have nice things.
BigShow, don't buy the game, as people have told you about Halo games since Halo 2, as you've told us a thousand times everything past Halo CE sucks for you.
The playlists are a bit sparse here, but my guess is it's a way to keep the population together until they know where it's going to sit. Also for "game working-ness" sake they don't want 50 playlists at launch in case servers go down. It seems the playlists people want that are missing will be out in a few weeks, so until then I guess we can all finish campaign and check out what is actually there, or wait a few weeks to buy.
BigShow, don't buy the game, as people have told you about Halo games since Halo 2, as you've told us a thousand times everything past Halo CE sucks for you.
The playlists are a bit sparse here, but my guess is it's a way to keep the population together until they know where it's going to sit. Also for "game working-ness" sake they don't want 50 playlists at launch in case servers go down. It seems the playlists people want that are missing will be out in a few weeks, so until then I guess we can all finish campaign and check out what is actually there, or wait a few weeks to buy.
Stinkles, do you think we will see any info about theater before launch?
ElzarTheBam
Member
Who are you again?
This thread was always going to be by far the craziest. Playlists are super divisive and have caused numerous GAF civil wars over the years.
We do a lot of data driven changes and inclusions and weirdly this is one of the things that makes people mad - that they feel that large populations will "bully" the direction of the playlists, and we will make sure the popular ones are always represented, but we do want to make sure cult and niche stuff gets an airing.
We have better tools, and learned (despite BigShow's somewhat understandable refusal to believe it) a lot from the failures of H4 - but I'd also say those were more matrixed flaws than simply matchmaking content.
We do a lot of data driven changes and inclusions and weirdly this is one of the things that makes people mad - that they feel that large populations will "bully" the direction of the playlists, and we will make sure the popular ones are always represented, but we do want to make sure cult and niche stuff gets an airing.
We have better tools, and learned (despite BigShow's somewhat understandable refusal to believe it) a lot from the failures of H4 - but I'd also say those were more matrixed flaws than simply matchmaking content.
That's a pretty good lineup for day one! I liked the way Splatoon staggered modes upon release a whole lot, and halo has many more options to start.
Also I'd love to see infection and grifball be double exp community playlists again, I was a huge fan of that setup in halo 3!
Imo, there's more than enough options to satisfy my cravings at launch, and I pretty much only played BTB in past halo games
Also I'd love to see infection and grifball be double exp community playlists again, I was a huge fan of that setup in halo 3!
Imo, there's more than enough options to satisfy my cravings at launch, and I pretty much only played BTB in past halo games
Im_So_Pringles
Member
I don't like Breakout being included with other Arena gametypes. It looks so stupid. I was hoping I could play regular objective gametypes without subjecting myself to the crap that is breakout. Oh well.
Edit: Wait wait wait, I just noticed that Breakout has it's OWN playlist and is STILL in the arena playlist!? What the FUCK. Ugh.
Edit: Wait wait wait, I just noticed that Breakout has it's OWN playlist and is STILL in the arena playlist!? What the FUCK. Ugh.
Any chance for in-game voting for the playlist cycle? Like a prompt where a message from the dev might be, but it's a call for votes on the next month's playlist options? It feels like a good way to get direct feedback from active players.
MarauderShields
Member
When are you guys revealing the full game type list for the game? Or do we now know it?
According to a lot of posters on this website I am not a true halo fan because I like Muse in the launch trailer. Rip, I guess.