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[Jack The Nipper]

Do we still get halo online player count numbers?

Honestly don't believe these btb maps will do much, especially after a week.

 

[Fat4all]

Do we still get halo online player count numbers?

Honestly don't believe these btb maps will do much, especially after a week.

Do much to what? It's not like they are running ads for BTB.

 

[blue_phazon]

I love how the video shows just how hilariously bad H5 is compared to H3, but go on, 343 needs your white knighting skills yo.



Chapter 1, page one of the blindly defend XYZ developer handbook.

You're the one being blind in this argument considering you haven't played the game. You don't know how the aiming feels in the context of the gunfights.

You know nothing.

 

[Leyasu]

first of these was an update to the “One or more members of your fireteam has high latency to the dedicated server” error message. Previously, this message blocked players in error, preventing you from playing with the other player(s), and we’ve now removed this restriction. Also, we’ve been keeping an eye on feedback from international players regarding Warzone matchmaking, and found that we were a bit too aggressive in filtering players during matchmaking. After reviewing the current parameters, we’ve made adjustments that will allow Warzone matchmaking to not only allow players to find matches quicker and easier, but also allow for improved matchmaking for players across the globe, thanks to updated searching parameters that also better prioritize players in your region. Today, thanks to your reports, we were able to confirm that the changes did indeed improve matching for players across multiple regions. We need to do some additional tests to ensure that the changes don’t negatively impact any playlists, so we’ve temporarily disabled the changes, and will be re-adjusting the parameters once these changes are verified.


Am I the only person who thinks that they contradict themselves here? So they deactivated the ping restrictions on parties, made changes that will find games even quicker (shudders), but then say it will prioritize players in your region.

Its already clear that they didn't give a fuck for match quality when they prioritised matchmaking speed. Now they are opening it up to make it even faster?? What the fuck am I reading?

How about disclosing the fucking parameters so that the people who are affected can decide whether or not they should keep this game. Where can we give feedback? I am in the feedback program, but surely that is not their only measuring device??

Time to suck it international players. I'm off work next week, ill probably end up with an American accent by the end of it. Fucking 343

 

[AllIsOneIsNone]

Halo really brings out the best in people lol

I honestly don't know why people defend against H5/4

It is perfectly reasonable to like the game, their maps, their forge maps and clamber ideas.


There is nothing wrong with liking the game, but what about those of us who want a more halo experience? Can we not voice our concerns?

Reasonable concern is reasonable concern. Yelling at no non-existent clouds is something else.

 

[Hockeymac18]

Do much to what? It's not like they are running ads for BTB.

I'm guessing the "do much" is concern ("concern") about player count. As long as there is significant population to fill all online matches (which there certainly is), I don't get why there is so much discussion about this.

And with how much better Halo 5 seems to be in the MP end of things, I think there will be a good core community for a long time. And that's all you need.

 

[Emperor Bohe]

I don't need to play the fucking game...

C'mon son

 

[Jack The Nipper]

first of these was an update to the “One or more members of your fireteam has high latency to the dedicated server” error message. Previously, this message blocked players in error, preventing you from playing with the other player(s), and we’ve now removed this restriction. Also, we’ve been keeping an eye on feedback from international players regarding Warzone matchmaking, and found that we were a bit too aggressive in filtering players during matchmaking. After reviewing the current parameters, we’ve made adjustments that will allow Warzone matchmaking to not only allow players to find matches quicker and easier, but also allow for improved matchmaking for players across the globe, thanks to updated searching parameters that also better prioritize players in your region. Today, thanks to your reports, we were able to confirm that the changes did indeed improve matching for players across multiple regions. We need to do some additional tests to ensure that the changes don’t negatively impact any playlists, so we’ve temporarily disabled the changes, and will be re-adjusting the parameters once these changes are verified.


Am I the only person who thinks that they contradict themselves here? So they deactivated the ping restrictions on parties, made changes that will find games even quicker (shudders), but then say it will prioritize players in your region.

Its already clear that they didn't give a fuck for match quality when they prioritised matchmaking speed. Now they are opening it up to make it even faster?? What the fuck am I reading?

How about disclosing the fucking parameters so that the people who are affected can decide whether or not they should keep this game. Where can we give feedback? I am in the feedback program, but surely that is not their only measuring device??

Time to suck it international players. I'm off work next week, ill probably end up with an American accent by the end of it. Fucking 343

great, didn't realize that.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

I'm guessing the "do much" is concern ("concern") about player count. As long as there is significant population to fill all online matches (which there certainly is), I don't get why there is so much discussion about this.

And with how much better Halo 5 seems to be in the MP end of things, I think there will be a good core community for a long time. And that's all you need.

the concern is I can't get my friends to play with me cause of the designs 343 have implemented. I'd rather like to play with my friends than just find new friends lol

Off ourse if it's 20,000 or 10,000 isn't a big deal but it can start getting hard to find matches in certain playlists if things get too bad.

 

[Fat4all]

the concern is I can't get my friends to play with me cause of the designs 343 have implemented. I'd rather like to play with my friends than just find new friends lol

Off ourse if it's 20,000 or 10,000 isn't a big deal but it can start getting hard to find matches in certain playlists if things get too bad.

Well, if they have Halo and you have Halo you can plan what you want to play with them. That's what I usually do in party groups.

 

[tuna_love]

the concern is I can't get my friends to play with me cause of the designs 343 have implemented. I'd rather like to play with my friends than just find new friends lol

Off ourse if it's 20,000 or 10,000 isn't a big deal but it can start getting hard to find matches in certain playlists if things get too bad.

Do you really want to keep playing anyway?

 

[Hatchtag]

I want to love this game, but forge-only BTB maps is fuckin' stupid.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

Do you really want to keep playing anyway?

Honestly, if they had some good maps I would probably play more. But with the things are looking I will be losing more and more interest.

 

[Jumeira]

I love how the video shows just how hilariously bad H5 is compared to H3, but go on, 343 needs your white knighting skills yo.



Chapter 1, page one of the blindly defend XYZ developer handbook.

Your making wild claims about no skill without playing the game, your coming across as obnoxious rather than critical. The community wouldn't be asking for additional aim sensitivity tools of the game was killing for you.

 

[The Flash]

You know nothing.

Jon Snow

 

[Fat4all]

Jon Snow

 

[Gwyn]

Would it be possible for 343 to update(textures and shit) for these maps later on?

I mean it's cool we get btb like 1 week after launch and i can't wait to play some games i just wish they were properly made

I am curious, how many of the halo games didn't have btb day 1 along with team doubles

Tbh i don't know.
I have fun playing Warzone but i understand some people don't like it

 

[Jack The Nipper]

Would it be possible for 343 to update(textures and shit) for these maps later on?

I mean it's cool we get btb like 1 week after launch and i can't wait to play some games i just wish they were properly made

I am curious, how many of the halo games didn't have btb day 1 along with team doubles

 

[Pez]

I have to wonder if 343 thought this would be a PR win, but instead people are upset about it.

Is that just the reaction on GAG?

 

[Fat4all]

I have to wonder if 343 thought this would be a PR win, but instead people are upset about it.

Is that just the reaction on GAG?

 

[Sniffynose]

Huh this might keep me around, the aim and latency were massive sources of frustration for me so if that gets fixed good!

BTB is very welcome as is more maps even if most look like Mario kart tracks instead of battlefields /sighs

I wonder if they can fix AI and do something to make warzone feel random and more alive regarding boss spawn locations and timings, and also make some point based system instead of the last shot wins bs on bosses.

I made it to rank 31 and was ready to toss in the towel.

I'd also like to see MY character in all modes not just FFA, people are proud of their unlocks and custom Spartans but the red blue shit makes us all the same and ugly. Why not just highlight us in red or blue and let us wear our custom colours?!

I'm glad they are working on feedback at least, since I'd like to have this as my go to shooter.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

Just give me Adrift and Haven again and make them SWAT exclusive maps and I'm good.

 

[Fat4all]

Just give me Adrift and Haven again and make them SWAT exclusive maps and I'm good.

SWAP maps, oh man, don't tease me!

 

[Cuzco]

I hate to say it, but the maps in 5 pale in comparison to any previous halo effort. Rig and eden are alright, and so is fathom. Orion is awful, Coliseum is terrible. Nothing is great. We dont have a lockout, or a blood gulch, or even an ascension or zanzibar.

 

[Bru]

Are you fucking kidding?

Go try the same shit in Halo 3 or Halo Reach.

Just because Halo 2 and the 4 was bad, doesn't mean it needs to stay this awful.

Did you play those games through YouTube too?

Sorry, I really couldn't resist but feeling the control changes rather than simply observing them might change your mind.

There's always been an element of bullet magnetism in Halo but I've found it to be much less of a problem with 5. The modified aim assist really has upped the skill required to land accurate shots IMO. You should try it for yourself, you might be pleasantly surprised, I know I was.

 

[SolarMystic]

Really impressed with the post launch support, plus the extreme customization options on controls.

 

[Glass]

Did you play those games through YouTube too?

 

[Caayn]

Nothing about disconnection issues? Welp, looks like I need to wait longer before I can play this game.

Worthless update.

 

[Herbs]

Woohoo Headlong!

 

[Theorry]

COD has taken the #1 spot on XBL most played list and I don't see it changing, even with this.

What has this to do with anything in this thread?

 

[ebullientprism]

All those BTB maps look like they were made in Forge. :/

 

[Goldfishking]

All those BTB maps look like they were made in Forge. :/

They were, read the post it says they were made by experienced forgers who got an early look at forge. Then they were tweaked by 343.

 

[Leyasu]

Nothing about disconnection issues? Welp, looks like I need to wait longer before I can play this game.

Worthless update.

Worse than worthless if you are not a resident of the USA by the sound of it.

 

[MysteryM]

Just because Halo 2 and the 4 was bad, doesn't mean it needs to stay this awful.

Wow. Time to step away from the keyboard for 5 minutes. Seriously though venting negativity for a game you haven't played yet is crazy.

 

[JoeDanny]

Yeah.

I'm happy with the colors and lighting options being added to Forge, but what in the world is up with how plain all the pieces look? It's so hard to navigate, and just plain ick looking.

Reach at least had some texture:

And with modes like Breakout (which looks really nice IMO) being built from Forge, surely they could have livened up these pieces a little bit more.

This is a joke, right? You're not ACTUALLY defending Reach's forge color pallet and textures, are you?

 

[Leyasu]

This is a joke, right? You're not ACTUALLY defending Reach's forge color pallet and textures, are you?

Halo 5 is going to turn into a forge multiplayer fest like reach I feel

 

[JigglesBunny]

The visuals look straight up shitty.

Why can Forge maps never be visually competent?

 

[Footos22]

I'm not on a high horse, I just think there's an expectation for maps from a high-profile release on a modern console to not look like this:

More, free content is great, especially this close to launch, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that that looks rough.

Fresh out of tearaway Unfolded.

 

[Jack The Nipper]

The visuals look straight up shitty.

Why can Forge maps never be visually competent?

far cry did decent on xbox (og xbox ) ....

 

[Sordid]

thanks to updated searching parameters that also better prioritize players in your region.

so we’ve temporarily disabled the changes, and will be re-adjusting the parameters once these changes are verified.

Bah, please 'verify' these changes and match me exclusively into European servers 343. You're game is great but the server selection is rubbish.

 

[DeadOnions]

I wouldn't mind forge maps if they didn't look rubbish. Will we have BR starts?

They need to add a couple of warzone maps though as doing the same 3 over and over gets annoying.

 

[Archpath1]

The problem with those forge shapes is that they all look so smooth, no rough texture, designs, they look so out of place

 

[Final Verdict]

If forge maps is what it takes to get BTB out quick then I'm fine with this, but I expect the vast majority of those promised maps to be actual new maps...

 

[Jack The Nipper]

If forge maps is what it takes to get BTB out quick then I'm fine with this, but I expect the vast majority of thirsty promised maps to be actual new maps...

3 years wasn't enough in development? can't understand your idea.

 

[Blueblur1]

I really hope that Aim fixes works because I am really sick of the game feeling like aiming is actively working against me.

Same here.

 

[RichiRamjag]

Fresh out of tearaway Unfolded.

Lol, it really is that bad. I'm sorry, I know I sound like I'm hating, but that's awful (to me at least). I was so so excited for BTB and this took a bit of the wind from my sails. Asthetics do make a different for me. Don't feel like I'm being a graphics nut or anything, halo 5 graphics aren't that great, yet I find them pretty enjoyable, but these need a bit more time in the oven.

 

[Human_me]

The problem with those forge shapes is that they all look so smooth, no rough texture, designs, they look so out of place

This is exactly my thought as well.
Those maps do not look like Halo.

They look like they are the early productions of a map that still need proper texturing, filling out and detail.

 

[Akai__]

If forge maps is what it takes to get BTB out quick then I'm fine with this, but I expect the vast majority of those promised maps to be actual new maps...

They also promised 6 Warzone maps at launch and not 3. What makes you think that those Forge maps don't already count towards the map count? We have 7 Forge maps already counting towards the inflated launch map count.

 

[Lettuce]

Any news on an option to removal or changing the Opacity on the helmet HUD??

 

[superNESjoe]

This update is killing it for me. The amount of content in the game is embarrassingly low. BTB only taking place on Forge maps is a joke. Every Halo game before 343 has managed to launch with a longer campaign, more maps, more custom game features, more game types, more everything!

I have always had Halo as my "stability" game. I play it a ton when it comes out and then leave as new games arrive, only to return to fill in release gaps or as a consistent multiplayer game with friends. I have played each Halo consistently from the day it's released to the launch of the new one. Halo 4 dropped the ball on that hard. Halo 5 is at least leagues better (in multiplayer) but so laser focused on a small handful of maps and modes that it loses all sight of what Halo actually is. I cannot believe I am so bored of this already.

343 has NO idea what Halo actually is, what makes it special, and how to build a game that lives up to that. That team needs a serious restructuring if this franchise will ever get another entry actually deserving of the IP.