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Has a AAA game ever been sent out to die like Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League?
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AmuroChan
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Anthem and Avengers yes. Gotham Knights was the 17th best selling game in 2022 according to NPD, and it came out in November. So although nobody here played it, it sold very well to the normies.
Mister Wolf
Member
Everyone knew Forspoken was going to be a turd.
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Let's be fair. 16 is only bad because GILGAMESH isn't in it. Suicide Squad is just legit bad and is coming out one day after Granblue Fantasy. The game is toast.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
Avengers wasn't really sent out to die either, they were beholden by disney's schedule for movie/tv show tie-ins, but then a bunch of shows got delayed, which delayed the content, and then they fucked themselves over by delaying even more content (the first major expansion) after chadwick boseman's death; by this time the damage was already done because they failed to deliver a bunch of promised content with all these delays, which led to people leaving because there was nothing to do.
Avengers really only had one job to keep people playing, and that was to steadily release new content, and they had planned a lot of it, but they completely failed doing so. In part by disney's schedule, but heck you can still come up with clever content yourself in between delays; the only explanation is there was only a skeleton crew after launch that was incapable of making more content that wasn't dictated by disney
Avengers really only had one job to keep people playing, and that was to steadily release new content, and they had planned a lot of it, but they completely failed doing so. In part by disney's schedule, but heck you can still come up with clever content yourself in between delays; the only explanation is there was only a skeleton crew after launch that was incapable of making more content that wasn't dictated by disney
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Anthem
Last Hearth
Member
It did okay, had a good first weekend but the legs were kind of weak. Given the budget it wasn't a huge money maker, which is why they kinda rebooted it instead of doing a sequel.
MiguelItUp
Member
I never paid attention to GK's numbers, that's awful. I just assumed its massive and quick price drop was proof that it wasn't doing so well.
Stuart360
Member
Nah it was big. 325mil US, and 750mil worldwide off a 175mil budget.
Thats big by DC standards, especially taking into account it wasnt a sequel, and had terrible reviews (26% Tomato rating).
A lot of superhero films these days wish they could make those numbers.
Hemingwayoffbase
Gold Member
One of the points the IGN article makes is something I’ve thought since I heard the title:
“Kill the Justice League”
Fuck that! I don’t want to kill my heroes, even if they are possessed. Not to mention the fact that there’s no way they’re ACTUALLY going to kill them, which means the entire story is going to have some dumb time reversal, Deus Ex Machina that just brings them back to life and makes the whole thing pointless anyway.
It really just seems like a case of a bad initially idea that no amount of delays or money could ever make good.
“Kill the Justice League”
Fuck that! I don’t want to kill my heroes, even if they are possessed. Not to mention the fact that there’s no way they’re ACTUALLY going to kill them, which means the entire story is going to have some dumb time reversal, Deus Ex Machina that just brings them back to life and makes the whole thing pointless anyway.
It really just seems like a case of a bad initially idea that no amount of delays or money could ever make good.
vaibhavpisal
Member
I enjoyed the beta.
Plays like a new game, brand new mechanics.
What do you want from a new game? 3rd person action adventure with free flow combat?
Plays like a new game, brand new mechanics.
What do you want from a new game? 3rd person action adventure with free flow combat?
Shut0wen
Member
Naah athem actually sold well because people were hyped for it at the time, id say metal revengence was sent out to die more then anthem
Spitfire098
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Lord Malachite
Member
Gotham Knights was also selling for $35 on PSN three weeks after launch. I can't speak if this sale was on PC and Xbox too though I wouldn't be surprised if it was. Mostly I remember seeing that 50% discount and going "Wow, WB is waving a white flag on this game already?!"
kyussman
Member
It's literally called Suicide Squad......what did you expect,lol.
On a more serious note......Anthem,Avengers.......you would think they would have learnt something from those high profile failures but I guess these games are a long time in development so it's hard to pivot once they are well into making the game......it's either cancel it or plow on till the bitter end.
I wonder how many of these Sony have in development,lol......they must be shitting themselves right now.
On a more serious note......Anthem,Avengers.......you would think they would have learnt something from those high profile failures but I guess these games are a long time in development so it's hard to pivot once they are well into making the game......it's either cancel it or plow on till the bitter end.
I wonder how many of these Sony have in development,lol......they must be shitting themselves right now.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
Mass Effect Andromeda
No way it went through testing and the feedback they got wasn't: Kill it with fire.
No way it went through testing and the feedback they got wasn't: Kill it with fire.
MonkeyClaw36
Member
Marketing won't decide if a game is AAA or not. Where did you get this nonsense? Content/ quality decides status. Not advertising.
The Fuzz damn you!
Gold Member
Babylon’s Fall
Outriders
Avengers
I wouldn’t put Forspoken, Guardians of the Galaxy or FFXVI in this category, but they were knocking on the door.
Square-Enix could give a masterclass on this.
Outriders
Avengers
I wouldn’t put Forspoken, Guardians of the Galaxy or FFXVI in this category, but they were knocking on the door.
Square-Enix could give a masterclass on this.
YeulEmeralda
Member
Then, the damage to DC and WB is much bigger and chronicle than we thought.
Wildebeest
Member
AAA doesn't define quality or content at all. It is all about money.
Lord Malachite
Member
I'm not sure this is such a terrible thing anymore. Don't get me wrong, I'm not rooting for anyone to lose their jobs. But Rocksteady has bled talent for years because of the direction it's gone in. At the end of the day, Rocksteady is no longer the developer that turned out Arkham Knight the better part of nine years ago. That Rocksteady is gone.
While there will likely be layoffs and downsizing, and I empathize with hard-working individuals who may lose their jobs and wish any who do a speedy unemployment and new, better prospects for them; I don't really have any empathy for Rocksteady as an entity. It's a corpse of its former self. If this is to be the end of it, let it go. Let's remember it for the great Arkham titles it put out and not this live service travesty.
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Mobilemofo
Member
It was sandwiched between both games. It was fuckin suicide. Brand new, £20. Yet, it was better than both mainstream games. Great single player, and magic multiplayer.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Streets remember…
That game was awesome. Still have friends who talk about it all the time. Overwatch killed it.
kiphalfton
Member
Yeah, lots of ripe opportunities.
Like somebody else said in another thread, make a game based on the Batman animated series. Or Michael Keaton's Batman.
diffusionx
Gold Member
the game:
MonkD
Member
That's one of those where they thought they had produced a turd and just wanted it out of their house. I'm guessing this game might be the opposite of that?
And just screw any game that time-gates their content. I understand that it probably gives you a higher initial player engagement, but won't it put people of when they learn that older content is unobtainable? The battlepass/seasonpass for this game looks like utter shit to begin with, just a bunch of bloat that no one gives a shit about. Why would I want emotes in a (co-op)game like this, are we pretending that voice chat was never invented or is it for roleplaying?
Hudo
Member
Sygma
Member
Its funny because most of the previews are actually positive, in particular this one :
Game itself has been good in tests for a long time, people are just overly emotional about the content
its fine if they dont like looters, as far as im concerned for once that this genre has money injected in it I ain't gonna pass on it. Classic gear sets are enabling vastly different playstyles from one character to another, in case anybody is interested
Game itself has been good in tests for a long time, people are just overly emotional about the content
its fine if they dont like looters, as far as im concerned for once that this genre has money injected in it I ain't gonna pass on it. Classic gear sets are enabling vastly different playstyles from one character to another, in case anybody is interested
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AmuroChan
Member
That's fine. I'm not arguing that it made a ton of money or that it was well received. I'm just saying that it actually sold ok and that WB did market the game. So it wasn't "sent out to die" quite like a lot of the other examples mentioned here.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Huh? It was a big exclusive for PS5. The only loss of hype was from people with multiple platforms and competition with Diablo. They clearly thought they had something great with it, but it wasn't. First mainline FF that I bought and didn't finish. I should see if I can roll through the last couple of hours.
Putonahappyface
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Gambit2483
Member
Redfall. They knew the game was unfinished trash and still shipped it.
Some of the devs were even hoping it would've been cancelled.
Some of the devs were even hoping it would've been cancelled.
DaGwaphics
Member
I feel like Superman has the potential to be a great game. No one has gotten it just right yet though.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Based on the interview Spencer did after the game's release, I am not sure they knew it was trash, which is even more worrying.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
Avengers actually had some last minute optimism as the media got to play (the best parts of) the campaign and enjoyed it.
Suicide Squad has had kind of the opposite effect after the media got their hands on it.
The Last of Us Part II
The game had been leaked and everyone on gaming forums despised it on every level. They said it has a terrible story, it’s woke, it’s a betrayal of the fanbase, that the game would be dead on arrival.
But then it released and was a success on every imaginable level.
The game had been leaked and everyone on gaming forums despised it on every level. They said it has a terrible story, it’s woke, it’s a betrayal of the fanbase, that the game would be dead on arrival.
But then it released and was a success on every imaginable level.
MiguelItUp
Member
Oh yeah? I guess I missed that.
I know there's some positives said about Suicide Squad in the previews, and that's neat. But I definitely feel like for what it is, there should be a lot more positive comments out there. I've already seen quite a bit about the controls, the UI, and just the overall flow of the game just feeling a bit messy.
Gambit2483
Member
I should have clarified, the devs knew it was trash being sent to die. Phil was clueless...which is, like you said, just as worrying
tomato shrub
Member
nial
Gold Member
Not AAA.Knack 2
