Leafhopper
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Are you telling me this is "The Grinch" with murder?Maybe that's the twist. If you walk out and don't shoot anyone, everyone is really nice to you and warms your hateful heart.
Are you telling me this is "The Grinch" with murder?Maybe that's the twist. If you walk out and don't shoot anyone, everyone is really nice to you and warms your hateful heart.
Drake is no different than an action hero like Indy or Han Solo. Likeable guys who kill bad people in fun action movies.
It's not the same as an utterly grim and very graphic murdering the innocent people sim.
Yep, and to add to that, Nathan Drake doesn't go around killing unarmed harmless civilians either. Why is he even being brought up here anyway?This thread is going to get stuck in a infinite loop because people can't tell the difference
Well, that's ok then. Right?
No Russian didn't bug me either but this did. Again No Russian had context.I always thought I am a emotionally jaded person as No Russian did nothing to me.
But I am glad that this trailer showed me otherwise.
I don't know.Why is he even being brought up here anyway?
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that it looks really fun.
I can't see how this is different to slaughtering NPC's in any game. (GTA, TombRaider, Uncharted, COD etc).
It's a game.
There are people out there, serial killers, who have killed just to experience taking a life. These people are fucked up, but not everyone needs a backstory to make them fit into the theory that they must be driven somehow by an external situation.
What is wrong with a game that has brutality for brutality's sake?
Exactly.
The problem that I have is the fidelity in which you're being shown the cause and effect. I've not played GTA, but in HM, you're not shown super detailed imagery of women begging for their lives before having a pistol inserted into their mouth and then executed in cold blood. Part of what makes the brutality in HM easier to stomach is that it's obfuscated by the presentation, just like how in an Uncharted game, Drake's witty quips distract you from how horrible of a human you really are for killing so many people and then (him) laughing about it.
I don't have a problem with this game getting made and released but I won't personally play it.
That said, you seriously don't see the difference between this and GTA, Tomb Raider, Uncharted? Seriously?
"How the Grinch Stole Hundreds of Lives!"Are you telling me this is "The Grinch" with murder?
Not sure I see the difference between this game and something like Quake multiplayer, where you are essentially killing others to blow off steam.
Not sure I see the difference between this game and something like Quake multiplayer, where you are essentially killing others to blow off steam.
Well, for one thing, those people are killing you right back.
"Dr Suess has out done himself in this new modern children's classic.""How the Grinch Stole Hundreds of Lives!"
Really?Not sure I see the difference between this game and something like Quake multiplayer, where you are essentially killing others to blow off steam.
Not sure I see the difference between this game and something like Quake multiplayer, where you are essentially killing others to blow off steam.
Nathan Drake kills people trying to kill him. They generally shoot first, and let's face it, none of these people are hired to do any good (like letting lose a swarm of sealed zombies, gaining the power of a tree, or hell, just using the powers of a lost city for some illusory bio-weapon). Hell, Drake goes out of his way to not kill innocents, as seen in UC2's first level.
Context is what separates defending yourself Indiana Jones style and being an Edgemaster 5000.
Edit: I'm not saying games like this can't exist, because then we'd go down a slippery slope of what's acceptable and what's not. But I can make fun of how overly edgey it's trying to be and how it reminds me of that kid in high school who just hated everyone.
I'm going to go against the grain here and say that it looks really fun.
I can't see how this is different to slaughtering NPC's in any game. (GTA, TombRaider, Uncharted, COD etc).
Exactly.
I guess I am not very thin skinned about this stuff... I've seen dozens of games that do this sort of thing over the years.
I feel like if everyone was wearing a turban in this game, no one would be flinching.
That's not a judgment... if this particular disturbs people, that's understandable, but it seems like a matter of degrees when comparing this to most other violent games, at best, to me.
I guess I am not very thin skinned about this stuff... I've seen dozens of games that do this sort of thing over the years.
I feel like if everyone was wearing a turban in this game, no one would be flinching.
That's not a judgment... if this particular disturbs people, that's understandable, but it seems like a matter of degrees when comparing this to most other violent games, at best, to me.
Not sure I see the difference between this game and something like Quake multiplayer, where you are essentially killing others to blow off steam.
Nathan Drake kills people trying to kill him. They generally shoot first, and let's face it, none of these people are hired to do any good (like letting lose a swarm of sealed zombies, gaining the power of a tree, or hell, just using the powers of a lost city for some illusory bio-weapon). Hell, Drake goes out of his way to not kill innocents, as seen in UC2's first level.
Context is what separates defending yourself Indiana Jones style and being an Edgemaster 5000.
Edit: I'm not saying games like this can't exist, because then we'd go down a slippery slope of what's acceptable and what's not. But I can make fun of how overly edgey it's trying to be and how it reminds me of that kid in high school who just hated everyone.
People from that thread about playing a serial killer should be happy.
Is there a character creator for the civilians?
I guess I am not very thin skinned about this stuff... I've seen dozens of games that do this sort of thing over the years.
I feel like if everyone was wearing a turban in this game, no one would be flinching.
That's not a judgment... if this particular disturbs people, that's understandable, but it seems like a matter of degrees when comparing this to most other violent games, at best, to me.
Well for one Quake is a fantasy sci-fi setting, but more importantly I'm pretty sure the people you're blowing up in Quake are rocket jumping around trying to blow you to bits also.
This game is going for a gritty, realistic look and outside of the police (who are trying to defend the town) it seems as though you are hunting down masses of innocents
At least in my mind there is a difference between a competitive fantasy based shooter and a realistic mass-murder sim.
Interesting. First Postal was intruguing because it aproached it's theme with straight face, while the two sequels went for farce