Not having a map in a game like this is baffling.
Are the power-ups fun at least? All I've seen so far are various kinds of keys and a gun.
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Are the power-ups fun at least? All I've seen so far are various kinds of keys and a gun.
Santerestil
Banned
What? The unlocks were just palette swaps with a pair of different special moves. The last one, the Butterfly suit, remove some "lycra" parts to show some legs and torso (with her butterfly tatoo), but the main difference is that gives you all the special moves - and zero protection.
Sure, you can move the camera to examine better the protagonist's ass...ets, but P.N.03 is still 2000% more cool and less pandering than this shovelware.
Feminists don't play video games? That's news to me
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
I loved that game! The controls were the intial hurdle for me but once you figured out each enemies firing pattern and got used to not being able to strafe you could do backflips, cartwheels and flips around enemy fire and blast the shit out of them whilst striking a sassy pose! Thought it was a great arcade shooter, a bit repetitive at times, but fun!
EDIT: I unlocked all the outfits back in the day and don't even remember a "nudey" type outfit at all!
Candescence
Member
To my knowledge there's apparently equippables like body armor, night vision, gas mask, and a magnum and semi-auto. There's also a tool that lets you attach a wi-fi device to specific switches that lets you activate them remotely. Nothing incredible, but for a small game like this, at least there's a bit of variety.
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Deleted member 10571
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Yeah, to be honest I remember PN03 quite fondly as well. I do remember it focussing on Vanessa's backside though, but - at least in my memories - it was way more designed towards style and dancing than about oogling. Also, no high heels.
For what it's worth, Bayonetta is somewhat ugly which lessens the... "less desirable" appeal a lot. Hell, if you use a costume it's removed entirely (I can't remember the last time I played it in the default tbh).
Corronchilejano
Member
Why would anyone go apeshit over this? It's a laughable attempt at selling an objectively mediocre game. The fact that people have bought it is a testament to the diversity of maturity in the medium and another chip in the pile called "sex sells".
That's cool at least. I'll watch some more footage and see if it becomes more interesting.
Abilidebob
Member
??????????
Textbooks usually give example on a perfect environment that focus on the thing and nothing more. When a textbook explains about acceleration force, it does not includes friction even if almost every real world effects of acceleration includes friction.
That being said, this games is so insane that it actualy functions on more than one level !
The objetification on this game is SO INSANE that I was not even 1 bit surprised when I saw that the dev posted stuff on 4chan. Even games like Metal gear 5, Dead or Alive Xtreme, Bayonetta and...fuck, even Rapelay tries to gives a personality, facial features and a life behind the women they portray. This game you are LITERALY an object without anything but tits and butts. And it was the idea since the beginning considering how the "trow bodies on pits" mechanic work on this game. I simply can't even think of a game that does objetification like this game. Even GlaDos who literaly have no face and
becomes the literal object of a potato
1) Radical Feminists are not what you think it means. It is mostly used for second wave feminists. Try "extreme feminists"
2) WHAT THE FLYING FUCK is the "feminists don't actually play games" idea ? I am not sure if you are saying that women in general don't play games, you are agreeing that the videogame environment is toxic enough that makes women stay away from games (ok that probably not) or just that "people who complain about things I like can't complain about the things I like".
Its' a buzzword to catch your interest these days.
Im guessing he is referring to "radical" feminists as he typed out in his post. There is a difference between feminists and "radical feminists"
At least, that's my take on it.
EDIT: as someone posted above, the more accurate term is
Yes, you use a nameless bot character in the game, and i never claimed no objectification took place in it, it's still not a very good (let alone perfect) example of "objectification of women in gaming" as you mentioned, because it is not representative of the widespread issue at all, for the reasons i detailed more than enough.
Stone Ocean
Member
The game itself looks okay but boy I didn't expect that much fanservice lol
There's night vision and it's kinda like the first Metroid in both the right and wrong ways.
Candescence
Member
That's not to say it gets amazing later, though. It's fucking frustrating as a designer to see all these design mistakes that are supposed to make it seem hard but don't actually make it fun. Seriously, it's extremely tempting to try and one-up this dev and try to do something similar that both plays better and handles the sexuality much more meaningfully.
Corronchilejano
Member
There's a woman (apparently) as the main character... is there anything else?
Candescence
Member
There is a semi-non-linear structure with multiple available areas after the tutorial, but the problem is that you don't have a map and thus don't know where you're fucking going half the time or where you should be going to get the stuff you need to progress. You also get new equipment to go through certain areas (night vision, gas mask, etc) and occasionally help solve puzzles (a remote device that you put on any switch to activate it from anywhere in the room). It's basically Metroid 1 mashed together with Tomb Raider.
Dream_Journey
Member
Thanks for letting me know about this game, sounds very interesting.
And looks too. 
Messofanego
Banned
At least she's black, so diversity...yay?
I was wondering why OP was being vague by not showing any pictures or videos and side-stepping the elephant in the room, grand effort! XD
I was wondering why OP was being vague by not showing any pictures or videos and side-stepping the elephant in the room, grand effort! XD
partyphone
Banned
people who like this sort of bad animation and character design are super easy to pander to so this is probably a sustainable business model. and you don't have to spend hardly any money on game design or advertising.
Basketball
Member
How dare he released this game in 2016
Doesn't he know the year... it's 2016.
Any kind of sexy/titillation needs to be meaningful and MUST BE justified. We got to move the medium forward. I would be so embarrassed to play this Infront of my dog's girlfriend.
Doesn't he know the year... it's 2016.
Any kind of sexy/titillation needs to be meaningful and MUST BE justified. We got to move the medium forward. I would be so embarrassed to play this Infront of my dog's girlfriend.
Corronchilejano
Member
How dare people have opinions about things, amirite?
Man, if I knew that all it took to make a successful game on Steam was a faceless fuckdoll and some claims that it's for "Hardcore" gamers, I'd have gone into game development ages ago.
It's the lack of a face that really gets me though. People can get off to whatever they want, but just that blank white space where the face should be creeps me out when combined with her massive boobs and ass.
It's the lack of a face that really gets me though. People can get off to whatever they want, but just that blank white space where the face should be creeps me out when combined with her massive boobs and ass.
If the protagonist looked like a normal robot, or hell, the same robot but with regular proportions, I could probably enjoy the game.
But you have to do this every time you climb a ledge.
i see ya
partyphone
Banned
it's definitely unsettling.
the people who make these types of games clearly have no respect for their audience.
"these horny idiots will buy anything"
Dream_Journey
Member
I had a friend which can do fantastic bodies but always hide faces because he was really bad about that, maybe same situation?
I don't know what engine this is running on, but for something like Unity you could just grab a head model off of the asset store if that was really needed. Still, anything's possible.
A faceless sexbot would make for a powerful statement about objectification of women in games, but I doubt the dev was going for that.
I think it's harmless. I hate boob armors and needless fanservice, but I never have issue when the product is so blatant about what it's main draw is. If it pretended to not be about what it really is about, then yeah, then I have an issue. I might buy it when it goes on sale. I don't ever buy games like these but something about big butts just... I have no problem with the fact that the model has no face either.
Battlechili
Banned
That sounds very oldschool Resident Evil-y. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. I like the idea of such difficulty personally, but at the same time, it reminds me a bit of htol#NiQ: The Firefly Diary, which initially I thought sounded cool in idea but wound up extremely frustrating instead of fun.
You go through a maze-like structure of rooms where you need to find useful equipment and solve puzzles in order to progress through some rooms and get to new rooms. You also save at designated save points that you find as you progress.
what
I think you taking that much of a cynical view is kind of unhealthy, even if they did. Sometimes people want to make things like this and it's not because they want to exploit you or because they have malicious intent. Not every boob or butt in videogames was put there to tempt you or trick you.
Basketball
Member
Looks at the modding pages
damn these guys are fast
damn these guys are fast
ThanksVision
Member
do you actually believe the things you type?
Candescence
Member
On the bright side, there's plenty of nooks and crannies to explore. You can even find mines that you can use to lead robots into and they go flying. Fun.
It's a shame that the weapons feel so stupidly lacking, though. The pistol feels like an airsoft gun.
It's a shame that the weapons feel so stupidly lacking, though. The pistol feels like an airsoft gun.
pinkurocket
Member
Whaa. I enjoyed that game so much, and I thought the animations were stunning. It was awkward to control, but it was more about staying on the rhythm while dodging and shooting. It worked alright when you got into it. Anyway, that game had fanservice with the booty and that one unlockable costume (which is hard to unlock). Not nearly as blatant as Haydee with booty close-ups and jiggly boobs from the first second. Even Bayonetta starts the games being covered up, and the 'fanservice' is more cinematic rather than part of even a basic gameplay move like crouching.
QuantumSquid
Member
Bayonetta's freakishly long legs creep me out. It's the same reason why I don't find any of the female characters from Dragon's Crown appealing, their proportions are so grossly exaggerated.
partyphone
Banned
"Radical" feminists. Or Extreme feminists as another poster corrected me. Nothing wrong with being a feminist. People of all kinds play all kinds of games.
However, there's the type that'd rather scavenge gaming media to protest against boob and butt on the Internet instead of playing the games though, much as there's a sizable demographic of people who'd rather post in a message board about games instead of playing them. That is all I meant.
Acquiescence
Member
Never thought I'd see MaseratiXXX cast in the lead role of a video game.
I'm a regular old feminist and I won't be buying this game based on what I've seen. Shit's ridiculous.
I don't really see how anyone could defend it, unless there's a story reason behind the robot being like that. Which I really doubt. It seems like totally unabashed titillation. Which isn't in itself bad, but is bad when you're trying to make an evidently serious and challenging game.
it is?
"Radical" feminists I can sort of get, but you don't need to be radical to see what's wrong with this game, design-wise.
Battlechili
Banned
I think this was made to provide a challenging puzzle game to play while giving those who find such characters attractive an attractive character to play as.
Not "exploiting horny boys" so much as offering something titillating to those who enjoy it on top of a game itself.
Why?
It doesn't distract from the game aspect of it. It wouldn't make sense to me for people to play this to just look at the character or something.
But that's such a strange argument I find all the time. People who I know who can be categorized as "extreme" feminists play video games.
Maybe these "extreme" feminists are smart enough to stick away from a medium which holds one of the most misogynistic and racist people within them. So, we should probably give them credit if anything.
I mean, there are a few posts in this thread that are along those lines, and this is neogaf, where you see less of that sentiment than most other communities. I didn't say I agreed with it, but there's clearly a audience for this game that is the 2edgy4me crowd.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Gold Member
This. Listen to the man.