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[Busty]

This is what happens to all Halo-Killer shooters. You know which game is next

You're only 14 posts into your GAF account and your already hitting out with stuff like this?

 

[makingmusic476]

I was expecting 6-8s, with an average around a 7. I have a hard time believing this game is worse than Blacksite, Turning Point, etc.

 

[SpokkX]

Hmm, thats an interesting and original take on Haze.

yeah can you observe a pattern? maybe there is something to it

 

[ymmv]

oh shit 4.5?!

The game never looked good to begin with and the demo was very generic. I expected mabye 6.5 but I guess the game is even worse than I thought

Or maybe IGN was overly harsh. The demo I played didn't bowl me over, but it certainly wasn't 4.5 material. Even if the single player is lacking, the game still should have received a 6-7 score if the multiplayer options were decent.

 

[RoH]

I think I'm going to give up on big review sites, I see a game like RB6v2 come out with a crap story and all sorts of bugs, and it gets good to great reviews. But the same site that would look over these things for one game, rip games like Haze apart for much less. Does this bad review turn me away from the game? yes it does, in the long run will I play it and like it? probably.

 

[Francias Castiglione]

It's supposed to be a critique of how war is portrayed in videogames.

Unfortunately they seem to critique the fact that war can be "fun" in videogames by doing the opposite.

 

[randomwab]

Could someone PM me the IGN review text. I would like to read over this and see just what they said.

 

[makingmusic476]

Could someone PM me the IGN review text. I would like to read over this and see just what they said.

'Tis done.

 

[JCBossman]

I think it really took a hit for the poor quality Visuals, because if a MGS series can do alright score wise with a story like that, ANYTHING can do ok as long as looks good and plays well. Funny thing FR was one of the best in the visual dept. last gen.

 

[antiloop]

4.5 Presentation
A bland story with weak characters and simplistic commentaries on serious topics, Haze is a generic tale at best about war.
4.0 Graphics
Tons of visual issues abound within the game, from texture tears and non-descript environments to pop-in and odd animation problems.
5.0 Sound
Dialogue is hokey and repetitive regardless of what side you're on. Sound effects are good, but that's not enough to make you turn the volume up once you've hit mute.
4.5 Gameplay
A creative concept hampered by gimmicks, a weak story and poor AI, Haze is a disappointment from a developer well versed in shooter mechanics.
4.5 Lasting Appeal
Two player split-screen and four player co-op helps put a minor spin on the campaign, but it won't extend the replayability of the game much. Nor will multiplayer modes and its useless merit system.
4.5
Poor OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

Oh well. At least it got a 5.0 for sound. But they are still telling us to mute it. :lol

 

[randomwab]

'Tis done.

Thanks.

Reading through the review, it seems that whoever wrote it really didn't like Nectar. He spends most of his review complaining about it. It also seems like he has pretty high expectations for Haze due to Free Rad's past games (not that we can really blame him).

 

[squicken]

Didn't the FR guys call out Halo as a children's game compared to the bold and compelling narrative they were weaving with Haze?

Anyway, to me it sounds like FR just overstepped their capacities in trying to do this epic, serious game. They were better off doing the quirky shooter that didn't try to reinvent the wheel or change the world.

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/h...a-20070515105934503025/g-20060510152410594044

 

[Huggers]

yeah can you observe a pattern? maybe there is something to it

Ha I think I do see a pattern immerging. I just thought everyone was all generic-ed out comment wise, seems you had at least one more left in you

 

[Sibylus]

http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/h...a-20070515105934503025/g-20060510152410594044

Damn, this must be really hard on the guy. He's obviously passionate about what he does and had a lot of high goals in mind, but it sounds like the final product didn't really meet the vision stated in the interview.

 

[acm2000]

just to make haze even bigger disappointment, it has a 4GB mandatory install

 

[test_account]

Pity for Free Radical After working that long on the game and then only receive 4.5 out of 10 :\ I hope for their sake that the game sell relatively well atleast.

 

[Truant]

just to make haze even bigger disappointment, it has a 4GB mandatory install

Probably all the unused high-rez textures.

 

[DC R1D3R]

So IGN gave Haze a 4.5 huh? Not a good look :[

Well seeing as GAF sites IGN as one of the least biased sites out there, the game must be pretty poor and I've now really gotta question EDGE's rather "glowing" preview of Haze (as opposed to the rather negative preview of NG2) in last months issue. I'll be eagerly awaiting their final scores cos something just doesn't add up.

 

[Speevy]

Is this the lowest rated game ever to receive an official thread?

 

[Totobeni]

WOW 4.5 , the demo was bad but not this bad , where is your money Ubi ?

I think it really took a hit for the poor quality Visuals, because if a MGS series can do alright score wise with a story like that, ANYTHING can do ok as long as looks good and plays well. Funny thing FR was one of the best in the visual dept. last gen.

oh welcome back , i thought you got permabanned since it's a whole year since your nonsense and we still don't pay monthly fee for PSN :lol

Is this the lowest rated game ever to receive an official thread?

was there an official thread for God Hand ? also LAIR got the same scores and got official thread

 

[antiloop]

just to make haze even bigger disappointment, it has a 4GB mandatory install

At least they understood the point with a harddrive in every PS3. It has almost no load times. (just one in the beginning?)

I would say that's a big step for next-gen even if the rest of the game sucks.

 

[Speevy]

At least they understood the point with a harddrive in every PS3. It has almost no load times. (just one in the beginning?)

I would say that's a big step for next-gen even if the rest of the game sucks.

Perhaps they based the entire game around having no load times.


"Okay Bob, we made absolutely sure there were no load times. Can we test some of these levels now?"


"Nah, send out some glow sticks instead."

 

[Speevy]

was there an official thread for God Hand ? also LAIR got the same scores and got official thread

Yeah, Lair is pretty low, but God Hand's IGN review was actually way off the mark from its final Gamerankings score.

 

[pswii60]

Looking at other pretty crappy FPS lately, I think they were overly harsh on Haze. They gave Blacksite a 6.2 and Turning Point Fall of Libery a 5. Based on the demo of Haze alone, plus the fact that it's got some new ideas even if IGN think they're gimmicky, coupled with 4 player co-op and what is undoubtedly better controls and aiming than the said games, should have given it at least a higher score than these other titles. IGN are a too harsh on PS3 exclusives at times.

Yeah, do you reckon MS has paid them off on this one? Seems a bit suspect to me.

At least they understood the point with a harddrive in every PS3. It has almost no load times. (just one in the beginning?)

I would say that's a big step for next-gen even if the rest of the game sucks.

Uncharted didn't have any visible load times.

 

[Rainy Dog]

At least they understood the point with a harddrive in every PS3. It has almost no load times. (just one in the beginning?)

I would say that's a big step for next-gen even if the rest of the game sucks.

Uncharted had no load times either and that required no mandatory install, just enough free space for temp caching.

 

[nofi]

Yeah, do you reckon MS has paid them off on this one? Seems a bit suspect to me.

:lol

No.

Edit: Apparently all UK reviews are embargoed until Friday...

 

[pswii60]

:lol

No.

It was a joke dude. You must have seen these nib95 threads:

Game Rankings showing 360 bias?
Gametrailers Credibility hit! GRID PS3 vs 360 Demo Comparisons found to be "fudged"

:lol

 

[Speevy]

It would be funny if Sony won some sort of bidding war for this game.

 

[antiloop]

Uncharted had no load times either and that required no mandatory install, just enough free space for temp caching.

ND vs FR. I don't think that's fair.

Uncharted's way of using the harddrive is optimal. But maybe FR:s streaming engine isn't up to the task of using a temp cache.

 

[Huggers]

So IGN gave Haze a 4.5 huh? Not a good look :[

Well seeing as GAF sites IGN as one of the least biased sites out there, the game must be pretty poor and I've now really gotta question EDGE's rather "glowing" preview of Haze (as opposed to the rather negative preview of NG2) in last months issue. I'll be eagerly awaiting their final scores cos something just doesn't add up.

I agree, something really doesn't add up. Looking forward to getting the new issue

 

[pswii60]

It would be funny if Sony won some sort of bidding war for this game.

I think they got the exclusive by offering to pay for the marketing. Apparently Sony have already started advertising it on the TV, although I've not seen any ads yet here in the UK.

To be fair, it's doing well on pre-order charts at online retailers everywhere, so it'll be a hit regardless, at least in the shortterm. GAME started 'committing' pre-orders yesterday too (so you can't cancel them), which is two days earlier than usual. I wonder why :lol

 

[Keyser Soze]

Apparently all UK sites have now got their reviews embargoed until the day the game releases

 

[FightyF]

Is this the lowest rated game ever to receive an official thread?

I'm sure LAIR had an official thread...I'm pretty sure Sonic the Hedgehog (next gen) had it's own thread as well...

 

[Blimblim]

Apparently all UK sites have now got their reviews embargoed until the day the game releases

Maybe it's like AC and only the 9+ score can be posted before

 

[Totobeni]

It would be funny if Sony won some sort of bidding war for this game.

it went from Multi to PS3 only so ..

but i guess Sony and Phil ( as SCEWWS boss at that time ) put their money and trust on FRD awesome trackrecord , no one can blame them for that .

 

[King_Slender]

Hmm, weird. 1UP has it listed as an "A", but there is not review up yet. I thought that might just be a placeholder, but I looked up GRID, which hasn't released, and it's just rated as HOT.

Something fishy going on here.

 

[Kingsora]

AC didn't get a 4,5 of IGN

And what's up with the high Famitsu score then???

 

[Kandrick]

AC didn't get a 4,5 of IGN

And what's up with the high Famitsu score then???

Its Famitsu.

 

[Kingsora]

Hmm good point

 

[JCBossman]

So whats the deal, is this back on for the 360 too?

 

[pswii60]

Hmm, weird. 1UP has it listed as an "A", but there is not review up yet. I thought that might just be a placeholder, but I looked up GRID, which hasn't released, and it's just rated as HOT.

Something fishy going on here.

"Average User Rating"

 

[antiloop]

So whats the deal, is this back on for the 360 too?

Probably.

 

[Busty]

So whats the deal, is this back on for the 360 too?

No.

Spoiler

Yes. It's a third party multiformat title. All the doubt came from Sony PR desperately trying to back peddle from the crappy job that Ubi and FR's PR folks did

 

[Kabuki Waq]

I am sure Europeans will buy this game. They seem to love every crappy game by UBI.

 

[Keyser Soze]

AC didn't get a 4,5 of IGN

And what's up with the high Famitsu score then???

Famitsu submit their reviews to publsihers for approval dont ya know!

 

[pswii60]

I am sure Europeans will buy this game. They seem to love every crappy game by UBI.

Yeah, but they don't love the good ones, like BG&E. Besides, Ubi are only publishing this. If it really is as bad as IGN make it out to be, then it's all down to Free Radical.

 

[eznark]

doesn't the game come out today, why are there only two reviews up on metacritic?

 

[Forsete]

What a letdown.

 

[Keyser Soze]

doesn't the game come out today, why are there only two reviews up on metacritic?

In Summary:

The game is a pack of dog shit, and Ubi are trying there best to hide it

 

[Lince]

Uncharted had no load times either and that required no mandatory install, just enough free space for temp caching.

Uncharted needs more praise as ND first effort on the PS3 tricky hardware, truly underrated. On the other hand FR's own effort seems amateurish at best, fuck it even that lonely coder at Capcom did a better job porting DMC4 for the PS3.