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I'm 6'3" so I've never experienced "heightism", but I can't say I've had any noticeable benefits. I mean I can reach high up things, but I don't think my height has affected how people view me. Friends of mine who are "short" would probably say it's had some effect, but not much. Overall I don't think it's a big deal.
 
At least shorter people can fit everywhere. Some vehicles and public seating are ridiculously cramped for tall people.

There's also less choice for clothing purchases. Smaller sizes are much more abundant than larger sizes.
 
Parch said:
At least shorter people can fit everywhere. Some vehicles and public seating are ridiculously cramped for tall people.

There's also less choice for clothing purchases. Smaller sizes are much more abundant than larger sizes.
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I have to rent a car next week and all because I am too tall for most compacts I will have to rent a larger sized Vehicle and be charged more.
 
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Short people don't necessarily have it easier on public transportation. On the subway I'm at armpit level with every sweaty dude in the joint, and on buses/planes/trains people assume that because I'm small, they are entitled to at least half of my seat. There are places where being short is an advantage but I've never encountered it in public transport unless I get blessed with an open seat next to me, which is rare.
 
Parch said:
At least shorter people can fit everywhere. Some vehicles and public seating are ridiculously cramped for tall people.

There's also less choice for clothing purchases. Smaller sizes are much more abundant than larger sizes.
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Not really. If your height is not in the average range of 5'9 - 5'11, you'll have problems finding clothes that fit unless you're ultra thin. Even slightly muscular or fat and 5'6 - 5'7 means good luck finding pants that aren't too tight or too long. This also applies for broadly built people at that height. Only small frame peeps can buy clothes without having to get the clothes hemmed.
 
Parch said:
There's also less choice for clothing purchases. Smaller sizes are much more abundant than larger sizes.
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I think you're comparing an extreme end of height to simply the lower end of average. I don't know how it is for women, but as a short man it is very difficult to find clothing that fits properly. Are you thinking "size small, those are for shorties" and there are plenty of them so you assume it's all good? Let me tell you, often that size is not short enough, and if it does match the height in terms of top-to-bottom length, it very rarely gets the rest of the ratios correct.

mugurumakensei said:
Only small frame peeps can buy clothes without having to get the clothes hemmed.
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Only if we like to wear tents and boxes.
 
Dice said:
I think you're comparing an extreme end of height to simply the lower end of average. I don't know how it is for women, but as a short man it is very difficult to find clothing that fits properly. Are you thinking "size small, those are for shorties" and there are plenty of them so you assume it's all good? Let me tell you, often that size is not short enough, and if it does match the height in terms of top-to-bottom length, it very rarely gets the rest of the ratios correct.

Only if we like to wear tents and boxes.
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Very true--I think part of it though is that men's clothes in the U.S. are cut unfashionably large anyway (unless you can afford to shop at high-end, boutique retailers).

You'd enjoy shopping in Korea--I'm also 5'7 and everything fit me right off the rack. It was fantastic.
 
RagnarokX said:
Correlation does not imply causation.
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Nice try at being more clever than everyone but there have been plenty of studies done with this in mind as well. It is a legit social stigma/bias. As someone said in here earlier, being a short guy is like being a fat girl.
Except a fat girl can eat better and exercise to lose weight.

Tristam said:
You'd enjoy shopping in Korea--I'm also 5'7 and everything fit me right off the rack. It was fantastic.
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Definitely one of the things I'm looking forward to.
 
Trey said:
Tall for no reason people are comical to me.
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Care to explain? I've heard people say this to me a few times.

It's not like I don't play basketball from time to time, but I'm not even good at the amateur "d-league" level. What would be one's reason for being tall?
 
I'm 5'7.5'' at 14 years old, my dad's 5'7'' and my mom's 5'1'', what height could I possibly grow to? Anybody else ever been in such a situation?
 
Dice said:
I think you're comparing an extreme end of height to simply the lower end of average. I don't know how it is for women, but as a short man it is very difficult to find clothing that fits properly. Are you thinking "size small, those are for shorties" and there are plenty of them so you assume it's all good? Let me tell you, often that size is not short enough, and if it does match the height in terms of top-to-bottom length, it very rarely gets the rest of the ratios correct.
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What pants size do you wear? We are the same height yet I have never had problems with finding pants that fit me.
 
Caelus said:
I'm 5'7.5'' at 14 years old, my dad's 5'7'' and my mom's 5'1'', what height could I possibly grow to? Anybody else ever been in such a situation?
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My family is similar, but my Mom is more around 5'4. I'm only slightly taller than my father at 5'8.
 
In Europe I feel a lot more comfortable walking around since most people in Europe seem to be my height. I'll go out to all the clubs in Ibiza and Greece and feel like everyone's height which is great compared to the giants in NYC. It's crazy that girls in heels are the tallest people in the clubs.
 
Im a little bit under 5 6.

It doesn't hold me back or whatever because I don't sit and bitch about it. This looks like a bootstraps post but really Jesus the whole world isn't out to get you. Get over it. All these isms you keep bringing up are so minuscule. Right afterwards you'll claim that racism is small fries compared to it.
 
SteveWinwood said:
Im a little bit under 5 6.

It doesn't hold me back or whatever because I don't sit and bitch about it. This looks like a bootstraps post but really Jesus the whole world isn't out to get you. Get over it. All these isms you keep bringing up are so minuscule. Right afterwards you'll claim that racism is small fries compared to it.
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I love you.
 
Caelus said:
I'm 5'7.5'' at 14 years old, my dad's 5'7'' and my mom's 5'1'', what height could I possibly grow to? Anybody else ever been in such a situation?
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Get the bones of your hands checked out by a pediatrician. They can wager or even calculate how tall you are going to become.
 
No evidence of this, but i ve always felt that on tv and movies the the main character is usually never the tallest of the core characters, and often has the most personality. There often seems to be a taller person that can range from more awkward to being the incredibly attractive one, at least in stories about groups of friends or students. Wonder why that may be
 
Future said:
No evidence of this, but i ve always felt that on tv and movies the the main character is usually never the tallest of the core characters, and often has the most personality. There often seems to be a taller person that can range from more awkward to being the incredibly attractive one, at least in stories about groups of friends or students. Wonder why that may be
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You're basing this off Movies and Television shows?
 
Caelus said:
I'm 5'7.5'' at 14 years old, my dad's 5'7'' and my mom's 5'1'', what height could I possibly grow to? Anybody else ever been in such a situation?
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My dad was 6'1", my brother is 6'3" and I'm 6'5". I know plenty of people who have out grown their parents.
 
Dice said:
Nice try at being more clever than everyone but there have been plenty of studies done with this in mind as well. It is a legit social stigma/bias. As someone said in here earlier, being a short guy is like being a fat girl.
Except a fat girl can eat better and exercise to lose weight.

Definitely one of the things I'm looking forward to.
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Did they control for external variables?

Presidents and CEOs are taller than average men. Are they chosen because they are tall or are there variables related to their tallness that make them more attractive to others? Short men are more likely to be discriminated against in athletic/physical/mating endeavors and that would affect things like their personality. If you had an election between 2 men, keeping everything else constant, do you think the election would turn out significantly differently if just their heights were exchanged?
 
neptunes said:
You're basing this off Movies and Television shows?
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Basing what? Has nothing to do with reality, it's just interesting to me how the cast in a show or movie portrays these height differences among their cast. You might think that if tall people are considered the most desirable, that they'd be the lead.

Might be just me, cuz as said no evidence of this. When I was a kid, I grew taller faster than peeps in my class and sometimes wished I was shorter due to how taller people were portrayed in what I watched day to day. All the cool people seemed short.
 
being 5'7 I feel like i'm too tall for those dudes who only goes for the cute short women.

Personally I prefer people around my height, not too tall and not too short.
 
mugurumakensei said:
Not really. If your height is not in the average range of 5'9 - 5'11, you'll have problems finding clothes that fit unless you're ultra thin. Even slightly muscular or fat and 5'6 - 5'7 means good luck finding pants that aren't too tight or too long. This also applies for broadly built people at that height. Only small frame peeps can buy clothes without having to get the clothes hemmed.
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Eh. I'm 5'7" and 125 pounds and this is basically true for me; I can buy most things off the rack and have them fit me pretty well. They don't look tailored or anything, but they don't look like they were for someone 2" taller or 20 pounds heavier or lighter. And yes, the latter is possible.

Caelus said:
I'm 5'7.5'' at 14 years old, my dad's 5'7'' and my mom's 5'1'', what height could I possibly grow to? Anybody else ever been in such a situation?
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... I didn't know there were GAFfers who were that young.

And I think I was around 5'2" - 5'4" at that age; my father is 5'11" and my mother is 5'; I ended up being 5'7".

Did that sound ageist?
 
For basic sizes the stores around my parts have a huge number of Small, Medium, and Large choices. They might have a few XL. If you need 2XL or bigger, you'll need to find a speciality store.
 
man...i'm like in a bubble then.

i never really think about my height. if i cant pull a particular chick, i figure she saved me some time...i honestly can't remember the last time i ever thought a taller guy had it easier, but if i did, i think that would be a self-fulfilling kinda mindset.

literally the only time i feel a disadvantage is reach in boxing, and even then, very few tall people (6'+) have had any idea what to do with their height; they tended to move clunky & swing downward, where i train to aim a bit higher cause it's easier to compensate when you're ready.

i get that there's studies, and a lotta anecdotal stuff all around (mine especially) but it feels like you're setting the stage a certain way before you perform. put on a little bit of muscle, and your short ass will look better than a bunch of lanky (or fat) taller guys, for one.

Ken Masters said:
Tall girls can only be with tall guys
short-medium girls wish they were with tall guys

that's the break down
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you can't be serious, this is not a hard and fast rule man
ive dated/hooked up with < 5' and amazon chicks taller than you, talk to more people
 
CrazyDude said:
What pants size do you wear? We are the same height yet I have never had problems with finding pants that fit me.
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Well that depends on the type of pants you're talking about. I guess in general, ideal would be 31 inseam. For some stupid reason, that is almost always matched with a very wide waistline, so I'm always stuck choosing between 30 or 32 inseam, and there often seems to be no thought put behind how the ratios with the rest would change with someone of that height, so things like how high the waist is or how low the crotch is affect the true length of the pant aside from the inseam measurement. The less you are working with overall, the bigger effect these sort of changes have, so clothes have to be more precise the smaller the person is.

So 30 gets the rest correct, but then the bottom is hovering at the top of my ankles, so it only looks decent with a tall shoe (which look bad on short legs) but then 32 not only overshoots a bit on the inseam, but those cuts most often add extra in the top which messes up the fit there while also pushing the rest lower. The best fitting jeans I have are 28/30 "1969" low rise slim fit from Gap, though they still sit a bit too high at my ankles. I like to wear them barefoot. Second best are some 501 shrink-to-fit Levis I got online. I got a 30/34, which shrinks to 29/31. That means I need a belt to keep them up in place (the waist is a bit high for my tastes, it's an old school cut) for that 31 to land where it should, but otherwise they are awesome.

As for slacks, I believe the best I had were some khakis from Gap, though I forget what specific cut they were. Overall, while finding well-fitting pants is very annoying, dress shirts are much more of a nightmare. I have managed to find a handful, but overall I have taken to t-shirts for summer and thermal layers for fall and winter because the cuts on dress shirts are completely awful (even most normal-type sweaters are very boxy) unless you go to some ridiculously expensive boutique shop.

Parch said:
For basic sizes the stores around my parts have a huge number of Small, Medium, and Large choices. They might have a few XL. If you need 2XL or bigger, you'll need to find a speciality store.
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Come to the midwest. It is a land of giants.

Caelus said:
I'm 5'7.5'' at 14 years old, my dad's 5'7'' and my mom's 5'1'', what height could I possibly grow to? Anybody else ever been in such a situation?
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You could grow more any time even to 20 years old. The height of your parents can be some general clue, but really a lot of kids these days are growing taller than the previous generations. My cousin grew sooo much from 13-16 and her parents (and their parents) aren't tall. I also have a friend who grew like 10 inches taller in highschool.
 
strobogo said:
... Poor choice to make a serious topic over. No one cares about this, including short people...
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I do not know about that, it is a pretty pervasive form of discrimination in society (atleast in my view and I apologize to anyone offended by this discussion). I am not equating it to sexism or racism in this topic and have admitted the error of my ways in saying lookism and heightism are as bad.
However does a form of discrimination have to be as large as the two big forms of discrimination commonly discussed to be considered a worthy topic for discussion?
i-Lo said:
Although not professionally, it has burned me personally. And then I come to this thread and see cocky comments about being tall and "looking down". Height is one of those things you have no direct control over.

Ironically, one of my good friends is 6'6" has never made fun of me despite the awkward difference in our height. Making fun of me for my height does hit a nerve even though I have grown comfortable with how tall I am over the last 4 years.
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Well society encourages rather than conditions condemnation of discrimination based on height.

danwarb said:
Most popular actors seem shorter than average.
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I do not know about that, plenty of actors are taller and I would say relative to the population the tall are preferred in that industry as well (I do not know if this is correct or not just going off of IMDB searches I have conducted).

Lancehead255 said:
If you're tall and get preferential treatment, is it considered discrimination?
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It is positive discrimination, if you are hired because of your skin color over an equally qualified candidate for instance that is positive discrimination right?

Note: I am not equating racism and heightism just providing an example.
 
Why are people being so pissy about this thread?

It's kind of funny that everyone seems to be jumping at the OP for no reason and he's got a Zoidberg avatar though.
 
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