It is pretty cool but vast majority of "fans" blow it way WAY out of proportion. I don't know if it is some inferiority complex but 40k fans are insanely obnoxious to talk with mostly. Constantly belittle other sci-fi and talk about how 40k is the best at everything and how it isn't even debatable. Practically 40k is the only decent diesel punk we got (since Mutant Chronicles can't make its big break) so beggars can't be choosers.“Hey guys, ever heard of 40K, I heard it it’s pretty cool and...Never mind”
You shouldn't talk that much to teenagers who never read any books other than genre fiction or lore for tabletop gaming systems not that there's anything wrong with genre fiction, but it's clear that much of 40k has been "borrowed" from other sources. Borrowed well in some cases (Tyranids are neat and I like the "Roman Empire in Space" idea of 30k, albeit not the biggest fan of it's execution), not so much in others (I guess GW would like to forget the "Massacre at Big Toof River" for example, where they casually equate Zulu with sentient mushrooms that know only war). And since they've been borrowing from so many places it's then really easy to see superficial similarities almost anywhere. I'm not sure why you classify 40k as diesel punk though, since the aesthetics are much more WW1 and Gothic architecture (the spaceships are literally gothic cathedrals with nuclear engines and guns) with a sprinkling of Lovecraft, rather than anything from the 50ies?It is pretty cool but vast majority of "fans" blow it way WAY out of proportion. I don't know if it is some inferiority complex but 40k fans are insanely obnoxious to talk with mostly. Constantly belittle other sci-fi and talk about how 40k is the best at everything and how it isn't even debatable. Practically 40k is the only decent diesel punk we got (since Mutant Chronicles can't make its big break) so beggars can't be choosers.
Diesel punk isn't just 50s. Diesel punk is pretty much WW1 and WW2 with high tech. Very little computers but high amount of extremely advanced technology in spite of that. 40k fits that description. Mechs with chimneys/stacks are a staple (like Sentinels) as well as powered exoskeletons, heavy artillery, trench warfare, super advanced WW2 fighters, esoteric energy sources, very bulky designs etc. etc. look at Leman Russ for example, it is pretty much just Mark V tank from WW1 with a turret.I'm not sure why you classify 40k as diesel punk though, since the aesthetics are much more WW1 and Gothic architecture (the spaceships are literally gothic cathedrals with nuclear engines and guns) with a sprinkling of Lovecraft, rather than anything from the 50ies?
My misunderstanding then, I had diesel punk registered in my brain as 50ies style with some high-tech elements. Like Crimson Skies, the Rocketeer or Fallout. But yeah the lack of electronics does sound like 40k, they rather glue a lobotomized human brain of a convict to a gun turret as targeting system, instead of getting electronics to work.Diesel punk isn't just 50s. Diesel punk is pretty much WW1 and WW2 with high tech. Very little computers but high amount of extremely advanced technology in spite of that. 40k fits that description. Mechs with chimneys/stacks are a staple (like Sentinels) as well as powered exoskeletons, heavy artillery, trench warfare, super advanced WW2 fighters, esoteric energy sources, very bulky designs etc. etc. look at Leman Russ for example, it is pretty much just Mark V tank from WW1 with a turret.
Cogitators, as far as I know, are purely mechanical and very powerful to boot. They are responsible for running the massive factories on forgeworlds and provide firing solutions on artillery batteries (the weakest models) and warships (very advanced models). They can also be used to charter a course through the ever fluctuating immaterium so you can jump around without a navigator. But I'm getting a bit side tracked here.My misunderstanding then, I had diesel punk registered in my brain as 50ies style with some high-tech elements. Like Crimson Skies, the Rocketeer or Fallout. But yeah the lack of electronics does sound like 40k, they rather glue a lobotomized human brain of a convict to a gun turret as targeting system, instead of getting electronics to work.
Funny about this movie, everyone I know and see likes it, but it has a 27% on RT... what? Was not expecting that.
Cogitators, as far as I know, are purely mechanical and very powerful to boot. They are responsible for running the massive factories on forgeworlds and provide firing solutions on artillery batteries (the weakest models) and warships (very advanced models). They can also be used to charter a course through the ever fluctuating immaterium so you can jump around without a navigator. But I'm getting a bit side tracked here.
Wrong. I'm sure every ore, worker, food, garbage transport in the Imperium has a navigator lol.Reliable warp travel is nigh impossible without a navigator for the imperium. Navigators use the Astronomican as a beacon to chart their bearings through the warp to read potential warp storms. Due to the warp being psychic in nature this is the only reliable way for the imperium to traverse the warp.
I loved this movie so much. I can't think of a better genre than a space horror/mysteries. Movies like Pandorum, Sunshine, Moon, Interstellar etc... are the best. If anyone likes these kinds of movies, I highly suggest the netflix short which is part of the "love death and robots" series called "Beyond the Aquila RIft". I've watched that episode like 20 times. It's so good. If anyone can recommend other similar things I'd appreciate it.
I haven't seen the other three you listed, but Sunshine is so fucking good. Some have issues with the final third of the film, and yeah it's kind of a tone shift but I think it works and is still very well-executed. And the ending is terrific.
I always thought, what if something like Event Horizon happened in real life? Some new NASA probe to Proxima Centauri opens some kind of weird chaos dimension that we can't comprehend. Also the movie script describes what the hell dimension sort of looks like and it has alot more dialog and exposition that wasn't in the movie. For example, there is a scene where Weir discovers that the Event Horizon's computer still thinks it's 2040. I want to see the longer version of this movie so bad.