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Hypothetical: Say Nintendo Vs Capcom Becomes A Reality...

Neoxon

Junior Member
And hoping for anyone from Golden Sun or Advance Wars is a fool's dream (;_;). I'd say the same for TW101, but their window of opportunity is only at sunset rather than complete darkness like the other two. For reference, Splatoon is seeing a sunrise of opportunity & God Nintendo will never let the sun set on them at this rate.

Ace Attorney characters. All of them.
We almost got Franziska von Karma in TvC along with Phoenix Wright (who obviously got into UMvC3), so there's that.
 
Ooh, I hadn't even considered bosses. I wanna have a fight with Giygas, Sigma, and an original character.

And hoping for anyone from Golden Sun or Advance Wars is a fool's dream (;_;). I'd say the same for TW101, but their window of opportunity is only at sunset rather than complete darkness like the other two. For reference, Splatoon is seeing a sunrise of opportunity & God Nintendo will never let the sun set on them at this rate.


We almost got Franziska von Karma in TvC along with Phoenix Wright (who obviously got into UMvC3), so there's that.

I'm really sad that nothing's happened with Franziska yet. She's really likely as it stands considering that she's a more viable fighter than Phoenix and doesn't have the limitations that once existed.
 

Platy

Member
There are also other things to consider.

  • Kenji Inafune hand-picked Zero over X to represent the MMX franchise in MvC3, so they may use that as a standard for who represents what branch of Mega Man.
  • Zero in general isn't far from X in popularity
  • Classic Mega Man is more synonymous with Nintendo, & this would theoretically be a Nintendo crossover. Plus Classic Mega Man was in Smash, not X.
  • Odds are they'd port over UMvC3 assets for the Capcom cast, so it'd be easier just to port over Zero to cover the Mega Man X franchise as a whole (assuming they go with the whole "One Character Per Branch of Mega Man" thing).

For these reasons, I have a gut feeling that it'll be Classic Mega Man, Zero, & Tron Bonne for the Mega Man representation if NvC happens.

Marvel vs capcom had classic, tatsunoko had volnut, onimusha BW had EXE, SNKvsC:C had Megaman Zero and MVC3 had Zero.

Capcom thinks X deserves a costume only in MVC3 and Smash

We might get Xover or something like that =P
 

Beth Cyra

Member
There are also other things to consider.

  • Kenji Inafune hand-picked Zero over X to represent the MMX franchise in MvC3, so they may use that as a standard for who represents what branch of Mega Man.
  • Zero in general isn't far from X in popularity
  • Classic Mega Man is more synonymous with Nintendo, & this would theoretically be a Nintendo crossover. Plus Classic Mega Man was in Smash, not X.
  • Odds are they'd port over UMvC3 assets for the Capcom cast, so it'd be easier just to port over Zero to cover the Mega Man X franchise as a whole (assuming they go with the whole "One Character Per Branch of Mega Man" thing).

For these reasons, I have a gut feeling that it'll be Classic Mega Man, Zero, & Tron Bonne for the Mega Man representation if NvC happens.
This would be the most suicidal thing they can do.

Niitsuma got hellish backlash because they tried to do that. They said early on that X fans would be happy and then used Zero and they got major backlash to the point Niitsuma came out and said that he didn't follow Rock closely and underestimated the desire for X. Not Rock and not Zero.

Using Zero and claiming that he is done to please X fans a second time would make things even worse.

Rock for Smash has no baring on X in a capcommdeveloped game.
 

Azure J

Member
This would be the most suicidal thing they can do.

Niitsuma got hellish backlash because they tried to do that. They said early on that X fans would be happy and then used Zero and they got major backlash to the point Niitsuma came out and said that he didn't follow Rock closely and underestimated the desire for X. Not Rock and not Zero.

Using Zero and claiming that he is done to please X fans a second time would make things even worse.

Rock for Smash has no baring on X in a capcommdeveloped game.

On top of this, if what Neoxon details happens, what happens to the Z series? Also Bass.EXE is great and should be the Battle Network rep in the event that another blue Megaman takes the main role.
 

Gartooth

Member
This would be the most suicidal thing they can do.

Niitsuma got hellish backlash because they tried to do that. They said early on that X fans would be happy and then used Zero and they got major backlash to the point Niitsuma came out and said that he didn't follow Rock closely and underestimated the desire for X. Not Rock and not Zero.

Using Zero and claiming that he is done to please X fans a second time would make things even worse.

Rock for Smash has no baring on X in a capcommdeveloped game.

Zero's pretty popular. I don't think people had a problem with Zero being in the game, it was that Zero was the "Mega Man" of MvC3.
 

Jay RaR

Member
If Pokken ever takes off in Japan, I hope Capcom will follow suit with this.

It could happen!
#pureoptimism
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Zero's pretty popular. I don't think people had a problem with Zero being in the game as much as Zero being the "Mega Man" of MvC3.
Nah, people expected Zero, he was considered a shoe in early on.

However during early press tours Niitsuma on stream responded to a question when asked about X directly.

His response at the time was simply that X fans would be happy.

As it stands there have been a lot of X fans that continue to feel slighted because despite X being very popular in the west (and by Capcom's own words) he continues to not ever show up and is replaced by Zero.

When the game shipped and only had Zero (what's more with a line that directly referenced X) many where angry. Capcom then asked for people to voice who they wanted to be in Ultimate, two characters crushed everyone else Virgil and X (.EXE did very well too) only for them to leave X out again. The backlash was awful and Niitsuma eventually talked about it.

Using Zero who has his own games as a replacement for X was never going to work. Zero now has his own games to rep.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Here's my guesses for the roster. Since they could easily port over UMvC3 assets for the Capcom cast, it would theoretically allow for Capcom to divert more man power towards Nintendo characters & Capcom newcomers. Also given how stingy their respective development teams are, I left out any potential Pokémon or Monster Hunter reps just to be safe.

CAPCOM
  1. Mega Man (Classic ver.)*
  2. Zero
  3. Tron Bonne
  4. Ryu
  5. Chun-Li
  6. M. Bison*
  7. Akuma
  8. Phoenix Wright
  9. Franziska von Karma*
  10. Leon S. Kennedy*
  11. Jill Valentine (Revelations ver., plays more like her MvC2 self)***
  12. Viewtiful Joe
  13. Amaterasu
  14. Dante (DMC4 ver.)
  15. Vergil (DMC4 ver.)
  16. Strider Hiryu
  17. Frank West (plays like he did in UMvC3)
  18. Arthur
  19. Morrigan
  20. Asura*
  21. Zack & Wiki*
  22. Mike Haggar

NINTENDO
  1. Mario
  2. Luigi
  3. Peach
  4. Bowser
  5. Yoshi
  6. Wario
  7. Donkey Kong
  8. Link
  9. Zelda
  10. Ganondorf
  11. Samus
  12. Kirby
  13. Marth
  14. Pit
  15. Fox
  16. Captain Falcon
  17. Ness
  18. Little Mac
  19. Olimar
  20. Shulk
  21. Inkling**
  22. Wonder Red**
    (Purely out of hope, though a Wonder Red vs. Viewtiful Joe scenario is too good to pass up. But if it came down to which new IP will be represented if there can only be one, it's probably gonna be Splatoon)

* = Not in UMvC3
** = Not in Smash (at the time of this post)
*** = Was in UMvC3, but played differently than suggested
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I don't see Vergil. I think Nintendo would want to encourage Capcom to focus on characters known to be on Nintendo consoles, at least in some way.
I already got most of the big ones without any potential roadblocks out of the way (Mega Man, Ghosts & Goblins, Ace Attorney, etc.), so might as well throw in a few fan favorites. Plus he'll be in Project X Zone 2 with Dante.
 
Here's my list, based entirely on my whims at the moment.


Nintendo

1) Mario
2) Luigi
3) Bowser
4) Link
5) Samus
6) Ridley
7) Donkey Kong
8) Fox
9) Pikachu
10) Kirby
11) Captain Falcon
12) Ness
13) Marth
14) Mr. Game & Watch
15) Captain Olimar
16) Little Mac
17) Pit
18) Inkling
19) Wonder Red
20) Jill (Drill Dozer)


Capcom

1) Mega Man
2) Proto Man
3) Dr. Wily (In a mech suit, ala Tron Bonne)
4) Dante
5) Leon S. Kennedy (The best RE protagonist)
6) Ryu
7) M. Bison
8) Sasquatch (Or literally anyone besides the three Darkstalkers ladies in MvC3)
9) Arthur
10) Firebrand
11) Amaterasu (Okami)
12) Viewtiful Joe
13) Phoenix Wright
14) Zack & Wiki
15) Vanessa Schneider (P.N.03)
16) Harman Smith (Killer7 - I want to play as a guy in a wheelchair! Dunno how he's jump, though...)
17) Rad Spencer (Bionic Commando – Original style, not the dreadlocks reboot)
18) Haggar
19) Strider
20) Asura (Asura’s Wrath)


I tried to go as obscure as I could, but the problem with Nintendo is they've already mined most of the decent obscure choices for Smash. Ness, Captain Falcon, Pit, Little Mac, Mr. Game & Watch... these guys would be considered pretty obscure if not for Smash.

I got REAL obscure with Capcom, though. Also couldn't give a single fuck about any non-classic Mega Man game, so suck it X fans.
 
That will change with X Zone 2. Virgil is so important to Capcom core it's unlikely they leave him out again.

I already got most of the big ones without any potential roadblocks out of the way (Mega Man, Ghosts & Goblins, Ace Attorney, etc.), so might as well throw in a few fan favorites. Plus he'll be in Project X Zone 2 with Dante.

Is he important? I guess I don't really know much about DMC, lol.

That said, I'd honestly be unsurprised if Dante didn't show up. I think Nintendo would legitimately want to say "eh, could you focus on games that you make for us?" I don't think they'd try to make them do it, but considering the sales potential, they might be able to be convinced. :v

EDIT: Also if they don't feature Pokemon, then they can throw Olimar, Shulk, Wonder-Red, and Inkling into the roster.
 
Here's my shot at a list

Capcom:
1. Ryu (Street Fighter)
2. Chun-Li (Street Fighter II)
3. Ibuki (Street Fighter III)
4. Mecha Akuma (Street Fighter/Cyber Bots)
5. Mega Man (Mega Man)
6. Zero (Mega Man X)
7. Bass.EXE (Mega Man Battle Network)
8. Tron Bonne (Mega Man Legends)
9. Phoenix Wright (Phoenix Wright)
10. Franziska von Karma (Phoenix Wright)
11. Sir Arthur (Ghosts and Goblins)
12. Red Arremer (Demons Crest)
13. Falcon (Power Stone)
14. Nina (Breath of Fire II)
15. Felyne (Monster Hunter)
16. Zack and Wiki (Zack and Wiki)
17. Captain Commando (Bionic Commando)
18. Viewtiful Joe (Viewtiful Joe)
19. Strider Hiryu (Strider)
20. Amaterasu (Okami)
21. Sissel (Ghost Trick)

Nintendo:
1. Mario (Super Mario Bros.)
2. Peach (Super Mario Bros.)
3. Luigi (Super Mario Bros.)
4. Bowser (Super Mario Bros.)
5. Link (Legend of Zelda)
6. Zelda (Legend of Zelda)
7. Ganondorf (Legend of Zelda)
8. Tingle (Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland)
9. Pikachu (Pokemon)
10. Lucario (Pokemon)
11. Mewtwo (Pokemon)
12. Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong)
13. Capt. Falcon (F-Zero)
14. Marth (Fire Emblem)
15. Samus (Metroid)
16. Fox (Star Fox)
17. Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment)
18. Little Mac (Punch Out)
19. Takamaru (Murasame Castle)
20. Pit (Kid Icarus)
21. Ray 01 (Custom Robo)

Final Boss: Sigma
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Is he important? I guess I don't really know much about DMC, lol.

That said, I'd honestly be unsurprised if Dante didn't show up. I think Nintendo would legitimately want to say "eh, could you focus on games that you make for us?" I don't think they'd try to make them do it, but considering the sales potential, they might be able to be convinced. :v

EDIT: Also if they don't feature Pokemon, then they can throw Olimar, Shulk, Wonder-Red, and Inkling into the roster.
He is the second most important character, the guy who designed MvC III loves him and they know he is popular enough they used him to sale Ulimate MVC III and DMC 4 SE pretty much all on his own.

So yeah, very important.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
Here's my shot at a list

Capcom:
1. Ryu (Street Fighter)
2. Chun-Li (Street Fighter II)
3. Ibuki (Street Fighter III)
4. Mecha Akuma (Street Fighter/Cyber Bots)
5. Mega Man (Mega Man)
6. Zero (Mega Man X)
7. Bass.EXE (Mega Man Battle Network)
8. Tron Bonne (Mega Man Legends)
9. Phoenix Wright (Phoenix Wright)
10. Franziska von Karma (Phoenix Wright)
11. Sir Arthur (Ghosts and Goblins)
12. Red Arremer (Demons Crest)
13. Falcon (Power Stone)
14. Nina (Breath of Fire II)
15. Felyne (Monster Hunter)
16. Zack and Wiki (Zack and Wiki)
17. Captain Commando (Bionic Commando)
18. Viewtiful Joe (Viewtiful Joe)
19. Strider Hiryu (Strider)
20. Amaterasu (Okami)
21. Sissel (Ghost Trick)

Nintendo:
1. Mario (Super Mario Bros.)
2. Peach (Super Mario Bros.)
3. Luigi (Super Mario Bros.)
4. Bowser (Super Mario Bros.)
5. Link (Legend of Zelda)
6. Zelda (Legend of Zelda)
7. Ganondorf (Legend of Zelda)
8. Tingle (Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland)
9. Pikachu (Pokemon)
10. Lucario (Pokemon)
11. Mewtwo (Pokemon)
12. Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong)
13. Capt. Falcon (F-Zero)
14. Marth (Fire Emblem)
15. Samus (Metroid)
16. Fox (Star Fox)
17. Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment)
18. Isaac (Golden Sun)
19. Takamaru (Murasame Castle)
20. Pit (Kid Icarus)
21. Ray 01 (Custom Robo)

Final Boss: Sigma
Well they might as well throw in Xover so you have every X character who matters in aside from X. At least go all the way to slap him in the face.
 
Personally, I take "Mega Man" - at least how I set it up - to just be general "whatever Mega Man they want to put in"

Personally I want his Mega Man Soccer incarnation
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Here's my shot at a list

Capcom:
1. Ryu (Street Fighter)
2. Chun-Li (Street Fighter II)
3. Ibuki (Street Fighter III)
4. Mecha Akuma (Street Fighter/Cyber Bots)
5. Mega Man (Mega Man)
6. Zero (Mega Man X)
7. Bass.EXE (Mega Man Battle Network)
8. Tron Bonne (Mega Man Legends)
9. Phoenix Wright (Phoenix Wright)
10. Franziska von Karma (Phoenix Wright)
11. Sir Arthur (Ghosts and Goblins)
12. Red Arremer (Demons Crest)
13. Falcon (Power Stone)
14. Nina (Breath of Fire II)

15. Felyne (Monster Hunter)
16. Zack and Wiki (Zack and Wiki)
17. Captain Commando (Bionic Commando)
18. Viewtiful Joe (Viewtiful Joe)
19. Strider Hiryu (Strider)
20. Amaterasu (Okami)
21. Sissel (Ghost Trick)

Nintendo:
1. Mario (Super Mario Bros.)
2. Peach (Super Mario Bros.)
3. Luigi (Super Mario Bros.)
4. Bowser (Super Mario Bros.)
5. Link (Legend of Zelda)
6. Zelda (Legend of Zelda)
7. Ganondorf (Legend of Zelda)
8. Tingle (Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland)
9. Pikachu (Pokemon)
10. Lucario (Pokemon)
11. Mewtwo (Pokemon)

12. Donkey Kong (Donkey Kong)
13. Capt. Falcon (F-Zero)
14. Marth (Fire Emblem)
15. Samus (Metroid)
16. Fox (Star Fox)
17. Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment)
18. Little Mac (Punch Out)
19. Takamaru (Murasame Castle)
20. Pit (Kid Icarus)
21. Ray 01 (Custom Robo)

Final Boss: Sigma
I wouldn't get your hopes up for the bolded if I were you. As for Mecha Akuma, he'll most likely be an alt for regular Akuma.
 
Nintendo side:

1. Mario (Mario)
2. Luigi (Mario)
3. Peach (Mario)
4. Bowser (Mario
5. Pit (Kid Icarus)
6. Samus Aran (Metroid(dunno if should go for zero suit or full suit)
7. Ness (Earthbound)
8. Marth (Fire Emblem)
9. Wonder Red (TW101)
10. Fox McCloud (Star Fox)
11. Falco Lombardi (Star Fox)
12. Waluigi (Side game hell)
13. Little Mac (Punch-Out!!)
14. Captain Falcon (F-Zero)
15. Takamaru ( The Mysterious Murasame Castle)
16. Isaac (Golden Sun)
17. Link (The Legend of Zelda)
18. Zelda (The Legend of Zelda)
19. Chibi Robo (Chibi Robo
20. Mike Jones (StarTropics)

You left out DK but added Waluigi. Amazing. I'm scared to even look at the other lists.

I wouldn't get your hopes up for the bolded if I were you. As for Mecha Akuma, he'll most likely be an alt for regular Akuma.
Why are you acting like this game is a thing that exists
 

hao chi

Member
If this game does happen, I'd have such a hard time choosing just three of: Link, Samus, Lucina (or Lyn... or pretty much any FE character), and Jill. Assuming they're all in and it's 3v3 like Mahvel is, anyway.
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I love the Breath of Fire series, but it wasn't big enough in Capcom's eyes to warrant a console game (which is bullshit if you ask me).
That wouldn't make it or break it.

Firebrand and Veiwtiful Joe don't and didn't qualify when they made MvC3
 
I made a special list just for GAF.

Capcom:

1. Cut Man
2. Guts Man
3. Ice Man
4. Bomb Man
5. Fire Man
6. Elec Man
7. Metal Man
8. Air Man
9. Bubble Man
10. Quick Man
11. Crash Man
12. Flash Man
13. Heat Man
14. Wood Man
15. Needle Man
16. Magnet Man
17. Gemini Man
18. Hard Man
19. Top Man
20. Snake Man

Nintendo:

1. Donkey Kong
2. Diddy Kong
3. Cranky Kong
4. Funky Kong
5. Candy Kong
6. Dixie Kong
7. Wrinkly Kong
8. Swanky Kong
9. Kiddy Kong
10. Tiny Kong
11. Lanky Kong
12. Chunky Kong
13. Bluster Kong
14. King K. Rool
15. Klump
16. Krusha
17. K. Lumsy
18. Snide
19. Tiki Tong
20. Lord Fredrik
 

Beth Cyra

Member
I made a special list just for GAF.

Capcom:

1. Cut Man
2. Guts Man
3. Ice Man
4. Bomb Man
5. Fire Man
6. Elec Man
7. Metal Man
8. Air Man
9. Bubble Man
10. Quick Man
11. Crash Man
12. Flash Man
13. Heat Man
14. Wood Man
15. Needle Man
16. Magnet Man
17. Gemini Man
18. Hard Man
19. Top Man
20. Snake Man

Nintendo:

1. Donkey Kong
2. Diddy Kong
3. Cranky Kong
4. Funky Kong
5. Candy Kong
6. Dixie Kong
7. Wrinkly Kong
8. Swanky Kong
9. Kiddy Kong
10. Tiny Kong
11. Lanky Kong
12. Bluster Kong
13. King K. Rool
14. Klump
15. Krusha
16. K. Lumsy
17. Snide
18. Tiki Tong
19. Lord Fredrik
20. Mario
Mario taking over Mr L is a travesty. My only complaint.
 

Crayolan

Member
I made a special list just for GAF.

Capcom:

1. Cut Man
2. Guts Man
3. Ice Man
4. Bomb Man
5. Fire Man
6. Elec Man
7. Metal Man
8. Air Man
9. Bubble Man
10. Quick Man
11. Crash Man
12. Flash Man
13. Heat Man
14. Wood Man
15. Needle Man
16. Magnet Man
17. Gemini Man
18. Hard Man
19. Top Man
20. Snake Man

Nintendo:

1. Donkey Kong
2. Diddy Kong
3. Cranky Kong
4. Funky Kong
5. Candy Kong
6. Dixie Kong
7. Wrinkly Kong
8. Swanky Kong
9. Kiddy Kong
10. Tiny Kong
11. Lanky Kong
12. Chunky Kong
13. Bluster Kong
14. King K. Rool
15. Klump
16. Krusha
17. K. Lumsy
18. Snide
19. Tiki Tong
20. Lord Fredrik

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Beth Cyra

Member
If anything, Zero consistently gets more discussion than X.
This is certainly true. Zero had the better games when you count X6 and 7 and they killed X in those games and then they made ZX with characters taking in Zero style much more then X.

The last few X talking points was the unrevealed and canceled Maverick Hunter, the terrible April Fools joke and the backlash over Marvel. At least Zero has a positive reason for discussion.

Oh and the Amzing Xover which is just X with Leon's scarf from four, but totally not X as a character.
 

EulaCapra

Member
I like OP's Capcom roster. I had to do a double take for Ruby Heart appearing in an actual game.

I doubt Nintendo vs Capcom will be a 2D tag-team fighting game. Party fighter in the vein of Power Stone though that's even more accessible and simplistic than Smash though..... that I can see. More obscure characters would even fit better.

Nintendo:
1. Mario
2. Luigi
3. Donkey Kong
4. Samus
5. Peach
6. Yoshi
7. Kirby
8. Pikachu
9. Fox
10. Zelda
11. Wonder-Red
12. Captain Falcon
13. Captain Rainbow
14. Ashley Robbins
15. Pit
16. Lucina
17. Link
18. King Dedede
19. Bowser
20. Ganondorf
21. Captain Syrup

Capcom:
1. Ryu
2. Chun-Li
3. Morrigan
4. Claire Redfield
5. Amaterasu
6. Viewtiful Joe
7. MegaMan
8. Ruby Heart
9. Phoenix Wright
10. Frank West
11. Arthur
12. Dante
13. Tron Bonne
14. Strider
15. Saki
16. Falcon (Power Stone)
17. Zack and Wiki
18. Felynes (Monster Hunter)
19. Nemesis
20. Hydron (Red Earth)
21. Nobunaga Oda (Sengoku Basara)
 
Need more obscure characters on these lists. Where's Doshin the Giant?

Y'know, as much as I'd love to see more obscure characters, generally vC games focus on recognizable characters, as do Smash games.

I doubt Nintendo vs Capcom will be a 2D tag-team fighting game. Party fighter in the vein of Power Stone though that's even more accessible and simplistic than Smash though..... that I can see. More obscure characters would even fit better.

I don't see it; Ono is specifically interested in it, so if they did it, he'd probably be behind it. I suppose there's a chance, but I could see Nintendo wanting a serious fighting game for the console.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
This is certainly true. Zero had the better games when you count X6 and 7 and they killed X in those games and then they made ZX with characters taking in Zero style much more then X.

The last few X talking points was the unrevealed and canceled Maverick Hunter, the terrible April Fools joke and the backlash over Marvel. At least Zero has a positive reason for discussion.
It's not even about which character has the better games. Everyone who played X as a kid wanted to find a way to play as Zero. He was always seen as the cool badass robot that was edgy and dark and whatever the hell kids are into. Zero has been popular since his first appearance to the point of eclipsing X himself (see his involvement in X4's and X5's storylines).
 

Beth Cyra

Member
It's not even about which character has the better games. Everyone who played X as a kid wanted to find a way to play as Zero. He was always seen as the cool badass robot that was edgy and dark and whatever the hell kids are into. Zero has been popular since his first appearance to the point of eclipsing X himself (see his involvement in X4's and X5's storylines).
No this is bullshit. Zero was popular, but he didn't eclipse X at all until 5 and introduced dues Virus shit and suddenly forgot that X was said over in over again to have unlimited power, and thus was given the variable X for a name and when Infune gutted the X storyline to shove Zero in the leading Role. X has always been very popular in the west and is often seen as the most popular Rock.

To say Zero always eclipsed X to the majority is simply false.
 

McNum

Member
People saying inklings make me think how they'd even play in a 2D fighter, and the thought amuses me. They'd obviously be a zoning/traps style character, with a very explicit focus on controlling space. Because when Ryu throws a fireball and says "That area is mine!" the Inkling literally paints half the arena and claims it for herself. If an Inkling is on her own ink, she has access to her full arsenal, can squid-teleport inside it, and generally be a pain to catch. Get her out of her own ink and she's in trouble. So the gameplan for her is INK EVERYTHING and buff herself, while debuffing the opponent's movement speed if they step in it. Maybe even make dashing impossible.

It'd be crazy, but... not too crazy for a vs. Capcom game. Roll would be a hard counter since she carries a bucket of water and a broom, though. The mortal enemies of Inklings everywhere.
 
No this is bullshit. Zero was popular, but he didn't eclipse X at all until 5 and introduced dues Virus shit and suddenly forgot that X was said over in over again to have unlimited power, and thus was given the variable X for a name and when Infune gutted the X storyline to shove Zero in the leading Role. X has always been very popular in the west and is often seen as the most popular Rock.

To say Zero always eclipsed X to the majority is simply false.

I don't want to speak for other people, so I hope no one takes this to mean "oh you don't have a real opinion", but I have to wonder how many people started thinking so highly of Zero after Egoraptor bumped him up. I mean I can see Zero being pretty popular before it, but a lot of people get a lot of their opinions from YT people. :v For instance, I didn't consider giving Castlevania on NES a chance until Egoraptor explained what made it great.
 

Neiteio

Member
I think if they make an NvC, it should be a mix of classic characters and oddball characters, much like UMvC3.

I've never been an advocate of Waluigi in Smash, but I can picture him working perfectly in a hypothetical NvC.

I can also picture Ridley working perfectly here. Take UMvC3's Firebrand and Sentinel and put 'em together.

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Gartooth

Member
Limiting myself to 10 characters from each. These were my "rules" I made when picking them.

-Smash / VS. series characters only
-Try to avoid a "where's Mega Man?" situation where a staple character is left out.
-Similar ratio of character scale from both sides so there isn't a bunch of regular sized Capcom fighters compared to small Nintendo characters.
-No Pokemon (if Pokemon Company didn't play ball)

Nintendo

Mario
Peach
Donkey Kong
Link
Samus
Kirby
Fox
Captain Falcon
Pit
Olimar

Honorable Mentions: Yoshi, Marth, Bowser

Capcom

Mega Man
Ryu
Chun-Li
Haggar
Morrigan
Dante
Jill
Viewtiful Joe
Phoenix Wright
Arthur

Honorable Mentions: Strider Hiryu, Frank West, Roll

Biggest concerns on my picks is mostly the Capcom side. I didn't want to remove Morrigan since she is a staple, despite her being similar to the Shoto archetype that is covered. Arthur should be in for historic reasons although his playstyle similarity to Mega Man gives me pause, and I definitely wouldn't change Mega Man away from the classic version to accommodate this.

I tried to have a good mix of play styles in there. Viewtiful Joe, Olimar and Kirby are smallest. Mario, Fox, Mega Man, and Arthur are above that. Peach, Link, Ryu, Chun-Li, Morrigan, Jill, Phoenix Wright, and Pit would be the medium size humanoids. I would make Samus, Dante, and Captain Falcon a little bit taller but not in the Haggar and DK class who are the largest.
 
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