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[mitch1971]

What a pair of tits!

 

[Aters]

Because Japan has a major problem with women and doesn't want to acknowledge it.

I want to see stats. Sexual assault rate or something like that. And no, porn and hentai don't count.

 

[Valkyr1983]

Yeah, fuck what other people want!

Christ, people. Do you even listen to yourselves?

Tekken has always had it's share of scantily clad characters, why should it change now?

Wanna crusade for a game more toned down for the sake of gender equality, go make a new fighting IP

Would you complain about a new doa game with too many bathing suits?

I've been buying tekken games since 1 on PS1

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Where is this coming from? Why are they saying it like it's never been like that before?

I think people only think of Tekken as the game with the crazy storyline about devils and volcanoes like good, god-fearing 90s anime. Then Lucky Chloe was the other, weird anime thing of modern, hitler-loving moe anime and people got super mad about it.

 

[Father_Brain]

What if I told you that that he was using it ironically?

I wouldn't believe you, because nothing at all suggests that he was.

 

[Sorcerer Supreme]

Harada is based.

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

Half naked men=okay
Half naked women=disgusting

The logic of these people lol

You can't spell butthurt cringeman without IGN.

Guess Harada should've added at least four more 'HA's to his tweet to make it clear he was joking.

Amazing
Ignorance breeds ignorance.

 

[Slayven]

I'll give Harada the benefit of doubt considering he's from Japan and doesn't understand the toxicity behind "SJW". He thought he was making a light joke.

He got twitter, but doesn't have google?

 

[OniBarubary]

I want to see stats. Sexual assault rate or something like that. And no, porn and hentai don't count.

Ha ha ha ha.

Are you fucking serious?

 

[Bits N Pieces]

I have met Harada and he comes off as a genuinely likable, fun guy.

I fully believe he had no idea what he was saying here but ignorance is not really a good excuse and now he's set a boulder rolling off in a bad direction that was completely fucking unnecessary.

To be fair they're probably both sound and this is just another day on Twitter

 

[Rentahamster]

And also, why the fuck do people need more costumes that show virtual tits to you?

Why do we need a virtual interactive simulation of players beating the shit out of each other?

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[randomlee26]

Half naked men=okay
Half naked women=disgusting

The logic of these people lol

Women have history of being exploited for their bodies

It unfortunately is different than with men. Yes, men have been exploited too. But not NEARLY to the extent of women

 

[Alienous]

"Hey, is that For Honor Samurai costume going to be the same in Japan?"

"It doesn't matter because your poor birthrate means no one will be alive to play it, hahaha"

That is an awful analogy. The response is completely disconnected from the question.

Harada's tweet basically amounts to "If people aren't too offended by the costumes, in your country", tweeted clearly as a joke.

 

[Geek]

I want to see stats. Sexual assault rate or something like that. And no, porn and hentai don't count.

lol I like that the only potential problem could be sexual assault

 

[g.r.e.]

Joke tweet gets taken too seriously?

Shocked.

You can't spell butthurt cringeman without IGN.

Guess Harada should've added at least four more 'HA's to his tweet to make it clear he was joking.

IGN guy fishing for them retwitts and favourites.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Tekken has always had it's share of scantily clad characters, why should it change now?

Wanna crusade for a game more toned down for the sake of gender equality, go make a new fighting IP

Would you complain about a new doa game with too many bathing suits?

I've been buying tekken games since 1 on PS1

"Back in my day..." - e.g. blackface, no gays on TV, etc.

The status quo is not an excuse.

Sorry, I didn't mean to directly compare the representation of women to blackface. I was more talking about how the status quo or "well it's always been like this" should never be used to justify poor representation.

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

Half naked men=okay
Half naked women=disgusting

The logic of these people lol

Don't do this man.

 

[Yogg]

I'm with Harada on this.

IGN just voided the value of any score they might give to Tekken 7.

 

[Warxard]

Harada is based.

yikes

 

[Nirolak]

Here's a few quotes about what it's like to work in the Japanese game industry as a woman according to Emiko Iwasaki, who was a game director at Arc System Works before leaving the country to work in Singapore instead: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=176840071

We were a team with zero 3D experience, it was difficult to assign to me men who have experience and who entered the company earlier and are older than me. There were gender role issues deeply rooted in Japan. It is considered a shame for a man to work under woman because many people think "men first, ladies second".

Raising awareness is one way to help make the working environment better. In Japan, 95% of female developers retire within 5 years. We need to create an environment that would allow women to prove her worth via her skills and ability. Not only in the game industry, but everywhere else.

In Japan, most people assume that there are no gender issues in the working environments. In fact, it is hard to visualize such issues due to many factors and complex social structures. It also does not help that there are very few places for women to voice their real feelings safely. Many people say that "our work environments have no issues", but we can still see female workers crying in the ladies room, and then quit her job quietly.

What are some of the difficulties being a woman director in Japan?



For franchise or series IP projects, it isn’t so difficult, but it becomes extremely difficult when it comes to original projects started from scratch. In Japan, there is a thinking that the important work is meant for the men, while the women are responsible for smaller tasks. Original projects are regarded as important works because it is something developers aspire to do. Because I’m a woman director for an original project, a lot of people thought that I broke some taboos. This was not something that was acceptable to many people.

What brought you to Singapore and how is directing games here different from Arc System Works?

I was able to work in Arc System Works for a long time because the CEO, the Guilty Gear team and some passionate colleagues treat me as just a developer, not as a girl. But for most people, experienced women and my age are not welcome in the workplace. This is why I am interested to go to other countries, I’m looking for something fun.

I think there's a reason people get concerned when you see someone like Harada throwing around the word SJW or some of the content you see in Japanese games, because it does reflect back down to the studios and how they treat their staff.

 

[Broken Joystick]

I'm with Harada on this.

IGN just voided the value of any score they might give to Tekken 7.

no they didn't

 

[Trace]

I want to see stats. Sexual assault rate or something like that. And no, porn and hentai don't count.

Women-only train cars.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

He got twitter, but doesn't have google?

He's a busy man. If it were that simple every dev in Japan would be fully aware of GG.

 

[Alienous]

"Back in my day..."

The status quo is not an excuse.

What is happening in this thread...

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Women have history of being exploited for their bodies

It unfortunately is different than with men. Yes, men have been exploited too. But not NEARLY to the extent of women

I wouldnt turn this into the oppression olympics. Im sure there is a better argument.

 

[Dongs Macabre]

Half naked men=okay
Half naked women=disgusting

The logic of these people lol

garbage post

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Tekken has always had it's share of scantily clad characters, why should it change now?

Yeah, why should things ever change ever? Everything should stay the same for the rest of eternity and definitely not move with the time.

 

[sonicmj1]

that'sthejoke.gif


Or at least I hope it is...

It was more a joke about the long-running grudge Itagaki bore against Tekken in the press.

The sexual harassment suit against him was dismissed for some reason, so you can take from that what you will.

I think both parties look pretty bad in this Twitter exchange, but then again, that's Twitter for you.

 

[DPtheGod]

Does anyone have a link to said costumes?

Also, TRIGGERED

 

[Sephzilla]

"Back in my day..."

The status quo is not an excuse.

I don't feel like this is a very solid comparison point

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I'm pretty sure he understood the "context" of the word when he made the joke, he just didn't imagine people jumping down his throat over it, you know, cause it's a joke. A pretty benign one at that.

Really getting all pissy about it is kind of what he was making the joke about anyway.

 

[Ferr986]

I'm not sure what people are seeing wrong in Harada's Tweet?

If you do ask the SJW, and there are people who revendicate themselves as SJW so no it's not just a vitriolic term, what they think about said costumes they might say they shouldn't be included. So he's laughing it off..

I don't get why that's terrible?

He's wrong in the sense that you don't need to ask a "SJW" if a bikini will be featured in the western version, because those "SJW" don't have any decision.

And before you try to argue... no, they really don't.

 

[Slayven]

He's a busy man. If it were that simple every dev in Japan would be fully aware of GG.

He not that busy if he knew enough to reference SJW

 

[jay]

Half naked men=okay
Half naked women=disgusting

The logic of these people lol

Yeah, and why isn't there a white history month?

 

[Complicated]

That is an awful analogy. The response is completely disconnected from the question.

Harada's tweet basically amounts to "If people aren't too offended by the costumes in your country", tweeted clearly as a joke.

You're right that it's not a perfect analogy. The US doesn't have an even worse birth rate problem that goes totally ignored as is the case with gender politics in the US and Japan.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

I don't feel like this is a very solid comparison point

What is happening in this thread...

Sorry, I didn't mean to directly compare the representation of women to blackface. I was more talking about how the status quo or "well it's always been like this" should never be used to justify poor representation.

 

[randomlee26]

I wouldnt turn this into the oppression olympics. Im sure there is a better argument.

I'm not. I'm pointing out that there's a difference between half-naked men and half-naked women in a game.

 

[Filthy Casual]

Rolls eyes

 

[Quonny]

Harada was insensitive or crass.

Gav made a honestly pretty nasty personal attack.

Both were dumb, one was more dumb.

 

[Alienous]

He not that busy if he knew enough to reference SJW

It's something that comes up alot when people talk about video game censorship. Gamergate? Not so much.

 

[Sephzilla]

Sorry, I didn't mean to directly compare the representation of women to blackface. I was more talking about how the status quo or "well it's always been like this" should never be used to justify poor representation.

Oh okay, well in that context I actually agree with you. Sorry for the misunderstanding

 

[jett]

This Gav Murphy guy surely has some sort of established friendly rapport with Harada because otherwise whatthefuck.

 

[boondock18]

Someone can't Korean back dash.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

I'm with Harada on this.

IGN just voided the value of any score they might give to Tekken 7.

You're with Harada on this thing he already walked back and apologized for? What does that say about you?

 

[firelogic]

He got twitter, but doesn't have google?

You have google too and I'd bet you don't know everything there is to know about foreign countries.

 

[Yogg]

no they didn't

You know how Internet works. If the score is high "they're just trying to be cool because of that tweet", if the score is bad "they don't like Harada as proven in that tweet". At least it will generate traffic for them, I guess.

You're with Harada on this thing he already walked back and apologized for? What does that say about you?

I meant Harada's side, which includes the whole exchange.Don't extrapolate.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

I'm really disappointed that he opted for "HAHAHAHA" instead of "HAHARADA HAHARADA HAHARADA."

 

[MilkyJoe]

The word a lot of sexist douchebags use as an insult to mostly normal and occasionally extreme people to justify their stupid bullshit.

You are going to need to elaborate on this fella.

Cause that's not what it describes where I come from.

 

[themagicalkitsune]

I can never take twitter posts seriously

 

[BocoDragon]

He not that busy if he knew enough to reference SJW

I know on GAF we insist that the term SJW is only a slur connected to gamergate, but I'd say that the word has entered the wider lexicon of English. So why wouldn't he know it?

I hear it all over the place, usually from liberals eye-rolling about about more over-zealous liberals. They're not using it ironically either.