evilromero
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Don't get me wrong. I played and enjoyed all of those games because I'm a fan of the characters, but I can appreciate some of the criticisms leveled against them as well.
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Inaba (Platinum Games): Bayonetta 2 would not exist without Nintendo
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Don't get me wrong. I played and enjoyed all of those games because I'm a fan of the characters, but I can appreciate some of the criticisms leveled against them as well.
nono I mean, AntMurda was correct, those games sucked except this other one
I'm not denying they might get it in the future and what not. But they only own publishing rights to Bayo2 as of right now and Sega still owns the ip.
What about a DMCxBayonetta title then...? :O
TDLink
Member
They funded initial development.
http://www.destructoid.com/report-nintendo-now-co-owns-the-fatal-frame-ip-229986.phtml
Good sleuthing.
Majukun
Member
sega already declared itself as an "advisor" in the game's development..so they still have something to do with the franchise...
A future acquisition is possible,but i think that right now the Ip still is Sega's property
The only thing I see there is a claim without a source.
I actually liked Wario World and Metroid Other M (minus the story aspects). And I enjoyed Star Fox Assault and Adventures
Come at me GAF
Yeah, heck even the gaf thread here only links to the rely on horror article.
Oh and the thread I linked to has this brilliant post
IC_Champion
Member
I accept this.
Perhaps Nintendo and Sega are sharing ownership for right now, until the "adoption papers" are in full order.
Considering that Sega already sold the rights to Guilty Gear and The Rumble Fish back to their respective developers sometime earlier this year, I don't think it's too far-fetched to think that Sega is just going to sell off another IP that they have no further plans to use.
maybe microsoft. the gamecube had skies of arcadia, so the series did have some life there before.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Suddenly I realize the game equivalent of this scenario.
Bayonetta 2 is Cereza and Bayonetta is Nintendo?
Aaron Strife
Banned
Personally I won't be satisfied until Nintendo resurrects every Sega IP in existence.
Also lol@any gamer who feels entitled to a series on their preferred console. That ship sailed with Final Fantasy 7
Also lol@any gamer who feels entitled to a series on their preferred console. That ship sailed with Final Fantasy 7
alfredofroylan
Member
So you want Nintendo to buy Sega then?
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Could you even imagine Nintendo owning every Sega IP? It would be beyond insane. They would need like 30 teams to reasonably give all of them and Nintendo's own properties a chance.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
:Internet high five:
I also liked both Assault and Adventure. I genuinely enjoyed Other M and Wario World. World being one of the few titles I've completed multiple times. Too much hate.
Hmm some sega fans are still bitter towards sony so its a tough call.
Trevelyan9999
Banned
If Bayonetta 2 was announced an Xbox 360 or PS3 exclusive how would the response be?
I think some people are more afraid that this will start to become a trend with the Wii U "stealing" "their" game from their non-Nintendo system.
If developers don't have the money to make the games they want, shouldn't we be happy that a company regardless of if it's Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft helps them out to make their dream game come true?
I think some people are more afraid that this will start to become a trend with the Wii U "stealing" "their" game from their non-Nintendo system.
If developers don't have the money to make the games they want, shouldn't we be happy that a company regardless of if it's Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft helps them out to make their dream game come true?
Okay. Here is a trailer for Project Zero 2: Wii Edition with the copyright information. As you can see at the end of the trailer Nintendo owns the copyright to the IP.
well sony had to help make bayonetta playable on ps3 after it was released
so its understanable why they would pay platinum to create it exclusive to the system they couldn't develop for
Aaron Strife
Banned
Yeah that'd be cool too i guess.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Of course it's cool! It presents the possibility that we could get a StarFox and Space Harrier cross over title.
Man, what a dream that would be...
Ash Sparrow
Banned
I'd rather it be on Xbox, but I guess I'm just happy they know more than ever that people appreciated the first game.
I'd imagine the response wouldn't be as passionately misguided as it has been.
As for your last question, we certainly should be happy with this outcome considering the alternative. That there are two threads on this topic filled with as much negativity as excitement is sad.
Chû Totoro
Member
I didn't buy the first one but I played it and it's really a great game. This said I don't understand why such a strong community around the game can act like this.
If I was Inaba I would be very deceived my fanbase could act so weird when I know I did my best so the game can come out anyway.
I guess stupid people is stupid (and the post above summarize it perfectly).
If I was Inaba I would be very deceived my fanbase could act so weird when I know I did my best so the game can come out anyway.
I guess stupid people is stupid (and the post above summarize it perfectly).
DEY TOOK UUR GAYMES!
the series never really left sega consoles so i don't think it would matter much. shenmue ii was on the xbox, but it sold like shit, so it's not like xbox fans really care about the series.
shenmue ii was rad though. i hope if they do a hd port thing that it's off the dc euro version with the subtitles. the english va was fucking garbage.
"Wear the official Wiimote Tiara, then swing your hair to attack"
"Use the Wii Balance Board to detect how much clothing you're wearing. The less you wear, the stronger you hit"
This guy must be a political pundit full time. Few people could make so many underhanded burns.
This is like chaos on bullshit mountain.
It might not push your journalistic credibility to the top, but writing down what the majority of your readership thinks is usually a good way to be a very popular news outlet.
It is as understandable as it is cringeworthy, unfortunately.
CrunchyFrog
Member
So no sequels on any next gen consoles then, huh? Cause in the PS720 case it'd be closer to $460 or $510. Certainly FAAAAAAAAR too rich for some people's spendthrifty ultra refined palates. Nintendo should use their casual gimmick money hoard and THANKS US for telling them to downport it to PS360 because WE FUCKING DESERVE IT. Oh no wait, this argument is moot because Wii U isn't a next gen console is it, AMIFUCKINRITEGAIZ?!!?! OH SHIT
The irrationality of the internet knows no bounds.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
When those Bayonetta 2 gifs start popping up you will be salty as fuck.
I cant wait, im gonna work my ass off to capture and post as many Bayonetta 2 gifs as possible, spoilers be damned!!
Ps3 i think people might lose it, Xbox 360 i think no one would be too angry, the Vanilla version of Bayonetta on PS3 was special.
We should, I think most of the angry people are pissed because they werent planning on getting a Wii U and Bayonetta just so happens to be one of their favorite games....like me, i still play Bayonetta today, i was planning on skipping the Wii U and upgrading my PC instead, but now im not upgrading and im buying a Wii U as soon as Bayonetta 2 drops........people just need to grit their teeth and take this news on the chin.
Either take Gokurakumarus approach and ignore the game entirely, or take my route and accept that the Wii U is the only way to play this game.
The only thing you can read into that copyright information is that Nintendo co-owns the copyrights to Project Zero 2: Wii Edition (which is not surprising in the least considering that they've funded the development and published it). The same was already in place for Zero 4. However, saying that Nintendo co-owns the whole IP because of that information is a classical case of "jumping to conclussions".
Oni Link 666
Member
I don't get those so called "fans".
If I was a fan of Bayonetta 1 and then Nintendo would invest monies so that Bayonetta 2 can be created, I would be happy as fuck.
I mean their choice is: Getting Bayonetta 2 on Wii U. Or no Bayonetta 2 at all. Difficulty decision smh
If they don't want to buy a Wii U, then they are still getting EXACTLY the same as if Nintendo had not invested monies - no Bayonetta 2.
If I was a fan of Bayonetta 1 and then Nintendo would invest monies so that Bayonetta 2 can be created, I would be happy as fuck.
I mean their choice is: Getting Bayonetta 2 on Wii U. Or no Bayonetta 2 at all. Difficulty decision smh
If they don't want to buy a Wii U, then they are still getting EXACTLY the same as if Nintendo had not invested monies - no Bayonetta 2.
TDLink
Member
Alternatively, you have been presented with news articles and official video stating they co-own the IP and instead of admitting you are wrong are trying anything possible to be right. I'll be honest, I hate when people do that. There comes a point when you have lost a debate, typically when you are presented with a cold hard fact. This is that point. Nintendo co-owns Fatal Frame, 'nuff said.
Project Zero 4 and Project Zero 2: Wii Edition cannot be released on other platforms or without Nintendo's consent as Nintendo co-owns the copyrights to these games, just as you say.
The "Project Zero" trademark is solely owned by Tecmo Koei. The same holds true for "Fatal Frame". Nintendo does NOT co-own these trademarks.
I accept solid sources, I don't accept claims. A random website saying "apparently Nintendo co-owns the franchise now" and a copyright claim at the end of the trailer for one specific entry of the series (which was funded and published by Nintendo no less) are not solid sources for the claim that Nintendo co-owns the whole franchise.
Project Zero 2: Wii Edition is a remake of Fatal Frame 2: Crimson Butterfly. According to Nintendo's Game Copyrights web page the copyright to the game is owned by both Nintendo and Tecmo Koei.
Nintendo also partly owns Spirit Camera: The Cursed Memoir
Please read my post again. The Project Zero & Fatal Frame trademarks are still solely owned by Tecmo Koei. We don't have any information on the older games, we only know that the copyright for PZ4 and PZ2: Wii Edition are jointly owned.
In contrast to that, Spirit Camera is a Nintendo-only owned IP. They share the copyrights for the 3DS iteration with Tecmo Koei though.
All in all, unless there are some secret contracts, Tecmo Koei can still release Project Zero titles on their own, but not Spirit Camera games.
We are not talking about the individual games, but about the franchise.
Keep in mind, this is the post I was repsonding to.
That Nintendo co-owns the rights to the games they published and funded (Zero 2 Wii, Zero 4 and Spirit Camera) is widely known and wasn't questioned by me or anyone else. However, what I am questioning is the claim that Nintendo actually co-owns the IP.