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We'll see when Zen 3 releases how good 10th gen from intel is.AMD fell short of year(s) old Intel gaming performance every release for the past 3 years.
We'll see when Zen 3 releases how good 10th gen from intel is.AMD fell short of year(s) old Intel gaming performance every release for the past 3 years.
Your hot takes get better and better...Good to see TechYes results from OP hold up.
It always makes sense to go for unlocked CPUs on Intel though, for top tier gaming performance.
Sell your X570 board unless you want to be stuck with 10400-like gaming performance today.
Steve from Hardware Unboxed do no recommend the 10400F because it cost $20, the boards are more expensive. The Tomahawk z490 cost $190 and the B450 tomahawk $115 so total is $90. There is not enough difference in gaming and in productivity test the 3600 offers 10% more and the watts are the same. Also the 10400 is locked.
Uhh no. Bitwit is far more objective than Leonidas could ever be. You will never see Bitwit making false claims like "Intel is 50-100% faster" in gaming.Bitwin = Leonidas confirmed.
Yes, that is completely true, which is why it makes no sense. To save the most money and make the 10400 make any sort of monetary sense, you pretty much have to buy a dead end product.The Gamers Nexus video was an eye opener for this i5 CPU, don't understand why it's been recommended so much.
Once the memory speed was limited to what is expected on the lower end boards, it went from competing with an R5 3600 to having an R3 3300X competing with it.
If you gotta buy a Z490 board & 3200mhz ram for the performance everyone is championing, doesn't that destroy the value argument originally tabled.
Uhh no. Bitwit is far more objective than Leonidas could ever be. You will never see Bitwit making false claims like "Intel is 50-100% faster" in gaming.
Consoles can have whatever specs they want. Those specs will always come at a price and are people willing to pay. A console could have a 3950X with an RTX 2080 Ti, but good luck getting people to pay for that.PC is constantly daring consoles to get stronger specs.
Consoles can have whatever specs they want. Those specs will always come at a price and are people willing to pay. A console could have a 3950X with an RTX 2080 Ti, but good luck getting people to pay for that.
Have you seen the performance of the latest Ryzen laptop parts?Even Ryzens in NG consoles are probably laptop parts, stripped off cache compared to desktop CPUs.
Even my gaming laptop i5 9300h paired with a 1660 is a great gaming experience for the 1080p screen attached to it.Even Ryzens in NG consoles are probably laptop parts, stripped off cache compared to desktop CPUs.
Even my gaming laptop i5 9300h paired with a 1660 is a great gaming experience for the 1080p screen attached to it.
Intel laptos will burn a mark on your desktop (or tops of your thighs) in the summer they're so inefficient.
After Ryzen 4800H/HS released recently, it renders every other gaming laptop CPU obsolete. I mean really.
if only they did the same for GPU's sick and tired of those insane team green pricing.
You made me laugh by reffering to yourself in third person. So, kudos for that.OP is not a fanboy, it's pathetic that people are still accusing him of being one. No surprise that it's usually Neo Members with such accusations (or users butt-hurt over the fact that OP keeps saying that an Intel CPU is faster than any of their Ryzen upgrade options, and will continue saying it for as long as it's true).
OP cares about performance, wants PC gaming to get even better (10 series Intel has done that with lower price for top tier gaming in 10600K) and wishes anyone would beat Skylake derived CPUs, but there is no sign of it happening this year.
If OP appears to be a fanboy it's because one CPU company has been the performance King since OP started posting about PCs.
Here are the facts.
Intel Gaming CPU upgrade path
8700K - OC for top tier gaming performance for 3+ years (no need for upgrades)
9900K - top tier gaming performance for 2+ years (no need for upgrades)
10X00K - top tier gaming performance
Costs
1 time fee of $280-$500 while CPUs retain value. No need for yearly upgrades.
AMD Gaming CPU upgrade path
1800x - much slower than fastest Intel CPUs
2700x - a bit slower than fastest Intel CPUs (upgrade required for improved gaming performance over last Zen CPU)
3900x - still slower than fastest Intel CPUs (upgrade required for improved gaming performance over last Zen CPU)
Cost. Recurring yearly fee of $330-$500 while CPU value also drops dramatically.
AM4 is still chasing years old Intel gaming performance.
Intel is clearly the better option for the best gaming performance.
OP ain't a fanboy. OP has recommended AMD builds in the past despite AMDs deficiencies in gaming.
You made me laugh by reffering to yourself in third person. So, kudos for that.
Why resort to insults? I've done nothing to you bro.No surprise that would amuse someone of your intelligence.
100% behind? Haha. Does it do 0 fps? Oh God, thats funny.Original Zen is 50-100% behind Intel in some games today. If that's not abysmal I don't know what is...
Why resort to insults? I've done nothing to you bro.
I just stated some facts and to me, it's pretty obvious that you're biased towards Intel.
It's all good, we all like different things, but don't insult me.
I agree fanboys are pathetic, but since you're part of the master race, you can't be pathetic, it doesn't really matter what side you choose. Amd or intel.You called me a fanboy, which is a lie. Ignore feature activated.
Fanboys are pathetic, as are those who accuse non-fanboys of being one.
One day maybe you'll realize I just prefer the fastest thing. I don't care who makes it.
No new CPU architectures are coming this year?OP cares about performance, wants PC gaming to get even better (10 series Intel has done that with lower price for top tier gaming in 10600K) and wishes anyone would beat Skylake derived CPUs, but there is no sign of it happening this year.
Intel Gaming CPU upgrade path
8700K - OC for top tier gaming performance for 3+ years (no need for upgrades)
9900K - top tier gaming performance for 2+ years (no need for upgrades)
10X00K - top tier gaming performance
Costs
1 time fee of $280-$500 while CPUs retain value. No need for yearly upgrades.
AMD Gaming CPU upgrade path
1800x - much slower than fastest Intel CPUs
2700x - a bit slower than fastest Intel CPUs (upgrade required for improved gaming performance over last Zen CPU)
3900x - still slower than fastest Intel CPUs (upgrade required for improved gaming performance over last Zen CPU)
Cost. Recurring yearly fee of $330-$500 while CPU value also drops dramatically.
AM4 is still chasing years old Intel gaming performance.
Intel is clearly the better option for the best gaming performance.
You called me a fanboy, which is a lie. Ignore feature activated.
Fanboys are pathetic, as are those who accuse non-fanboys of being one.
One day maybe you'll realize I just prefer the fastest thing. I don't care who makes it.
No surprise that would amuse someone of your intelligence.
The 2600 is far better in every regard, I have one too and it was a noticeable upgrade from my 4770k.I keep hearing how great the 3600 is well I have a shitty 2600 So fuck to all! I upgraded from an i7 930 OC to 3.7k and I’m sure that 9 year old ass. CPU was better.
Anyway I have a x470 and I’m hoping the Ryzen 4000 series works on it. I plan to get the 4700x and expecting a huge jump.