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Internet Confirms: Twitter babble is 50% more irrelevant than reality
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Just like this gen, right?
Oh wait, that didn't happen at all and multiplats always had differences in performance and visual quality. This gen, the gap will probably be even larger.
travisbickle
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They'll go for parity because they are trying to create the same product across platforms not because of crazies in the fan bases.
Looks more like quote mining to me.
He is referring to Adrian and his 'friends'.
Hydrargyrus
Member
He better should keep quiet...
With this stuff, every time he talks, makes all even worse
With this stuff, every time he talks, makes all even worse
not_so_special
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why people use this logic?
past gen people were nitpicking about every difference on ps3 and xbox ports and now its "wont happen this time" are we serious?
He outright said it's about power. Besides, if he was referring to dev time that might make it even worse for XBO since devs would have a lot more time to optimize on PS4.
CassidyIzABeast
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'em doesn't solely mean them, it can be one person or many.
GAF -> Internet -> GAF
Adrien was the Creative Director for People Can Fly for a lot of years. He only left last year because he was tired and probably because Epic forced them to work on GOW: Judgement and not Bulletstorm 2.
If even myself know who he is, then I would expect a Director of Product Planning would also know important people in this industry. But actually this explains a lot.
Adrien was the Creative Director for People Can Fly for a lot of years. He only left last year because he was tired and probably because Epic forced them to work on GOW: Judgement and not Bulletstorm 2.
If even myself know who he is, then I would expect a Director of Product Planning would also know important people in this industry. But actually this explains a lot.
Whipped Spartan
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huh? You see big differences in PS3 & 360 games?
Also thread should be renamed. Guy said faster.
So let me get this straight
PS4 is more powerful than XB1
PS4 is more easier to develop for than XB1
However devs will use extra tricks for XB1 to put it in parity with PS4 versions
What I don't understand is won't devs bother using extra tricks of PS4 to push it to its limits too like HuMa and etc.
Also about having parity between both systems, wouldn't devs already have a PC version that looks much better than both systems, wouldn't it be ideal to get PS4 closer to PC version as much as they can or will XB1 hold it back.
PS4 is more powerful than XB1
PS4 is more easier to develop for than XB1
However devs will use extra tricks for XB1 to put it in parity with PS4 versions
What I don't understand is won't devs bother using extra tricks of PS4 to push it to its limits too like HuMa and etc.
Also about having parity between both systems, wouldn't devs already have a PC version that looks much better than both systems, wouldn't it be ideal to get PS4 closer to PC version as much as they can or will XB1 hold it back.
Twin Tails
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Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I just took "Don't know 'em" as referring to Penello not knowing who the former PCF devs are, not that he doesn't know who PCF are/were.
Either way, he's obviously not gonna come out saying the PS4 whoops the ass of the Xbone.
Either way, he's obviously not gonna come out saying the PS4 whoops the ass of the Xbone.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
I don't know them either.
come on. He's clearly talking about power. They find a 50% performance difference when developing the game. That's why he makes the extra points to explain it, hence the "It'll become clear in a second." , or is the cloud computing power gonna help develop games faster?
velociraptor
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Except he mentioned in his tweet that we already knew the superior specs of the PS4 on paper.
CaptainTiptop
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Bayonetta.
Whipped Spartan
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I insist the OP be updated with this image, as the one in the OP is misleading because it omits a post on twitter.
I was going bring this up but assumed we knew and ignored it for sake of sensationalism.
NemesisPrime
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I liked his squirming follow-up message. Career ending twitter ftw.
AdmiralPain
Banned
Exactly right. The 360 was more powerful, easier to program for, it had a significant head start yet the overwhelming majority of games only exhibited minor differences.
After seeing this, it sure looks like another witch hunt against Microsoft..I insist the OP be updated with this image, as the one in the OP is misleading because it omits a post on twitter.
I hope he doesn't respond back. Focus on launching your system "like Sony is" and stop responding to these messageboard console war cat fights that he's never going to win. Let the games and your system features speak for themselves. Focus man 74 days to go...
Miles Quaritch
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I insist the OP be updated with this image, as the one in the OP is misleading because it omits a post on twitter.
Okay, so that makes a lot more sense. It seems he might have been referring to the Adrian and friends comment and not the PCF one.
Strange the OP decided to omit that tweet.
not_so_special
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and a lot more..believe me
LiquidSolid
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Yeah I suppose that would make sense. Still comes across incredibly arrogant though.
Character assassination? Come the fuck on, he's the one that's posting this bullshit, this is character suicide.
Re the linked post
The same developers that made better looking games on weaker hardware are now making games on hardware that's clearly superior to ours! Relax guys!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=80542977&postcount=399
The same developers that made better looking games on weaker hardware are now making games on hardware that's clearly superior to ours! Relax guys!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=80542977&postcount=399
Its amazing how badly some people interpret context.
Officerrob
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I don't know the details of this supposed "someone from MS", but is everyone who works at MS supposed to know everyone else?
Appollowexx
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Well if one version looks noticeably superior to the other then owners of the system with the lesser version of the game will be annoyed they drew the 'short straw'.
If both versions look similar then both camps are happy (aside from the hardest of the hardcore) and there is no physical proof that the more powerful system ever had a vastly different version running on it.
In other words parity pisses far few people off.
Whipped Spartan
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Even the guy on twitter didn't know the name of his new indie team. There are a lot of reasons to hate on Xbox right now. This one's a stretch
Kenshin001
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What? He says "Adrian Chmielarz and his friends" and then clarifies "Former People Can Fly dev".
He doesn't say "ex dev of PCF" anywhere.
Cthulhu_Steev
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The conversion was handed over to a (less than) C-Team though, look what Platinum did next on PS3 as a mea culpa for that cock-up.
The post on Gamingbolt.com and Gamekicker.com also omit it. I posted that image once without checking myself, even though I normally check these kind of things. It sucks ass to get fooled. But those sites didn't re-post an image, they embedded the posts via twitter, so they KNEW they were deceiving. Now it's just a matter of degree.
Whiteshirt
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Uh not really? Literally every PS3 has obviously worse textures, is more blurry, has worse framerate, worse everything. These aren't minor unless you have a high tolerance for all of this put together.
Only a few PS3 games are actually "better".
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Reading it again. Its hard to interpret really. You guys say powerful, yet it reads like he says in relevance to its power its faster to develop for no? These things seem blown out of proportion. Now people are arguing over if he penello meant that single dev, the ex-PCF devs or straight up PCF. Theres needs to be more clarification as of late or yall are gonna be starting 3 threads a day on this stuff until launch.
RobotRocker
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To err is human. Trying to slam someone for not remembering who someone worked for is like slamming someone for forgetting where they left their car keys. Everyone has a brainfart once in a while, even publicly. Heck, he might wake up saying "Oh god, the Bulletstorm and Gears Judgement guys!".
I'm not reading much into it. Calling it out just seems like desperate point scoring.
Miles Quaritch
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Really? Bayo PS3 was outsourced and treated like shit by Sega. Hardly the best example to bring up.
PapaJustify
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I think claiming that the PS4 is 50% more powerful than the X1 is a bit ridiculous looking at both spec sheets. Especially that early with both consoles just being finalized and devs not having sunken deep into the metal yet, it is way to early to call this fight over...
HocusPocus
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These threads are getting a bit sad trying to show something that's not really there. I took it simply to mean he didn't know the guy personally. He also didn't post anything saying the guy was full of crap or anything, and the guy was taken out of context in other threads shown on this forum that I've read.
uncharted86
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Of course it's referring to power difference. It's weird to use percent as a measure for development time.
Former and ex are the same. Both refer to the person not working there anymore.
This wasn't a problem in previous generations though. SNES - Genesis, PS2 - Xbox, and even last gen. Why should it be a problem now.
Kenshin001
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I guess now he knows who they are he can ignore the statement.
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