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Is Final Fantasy VII's Disc 2 FMV The Lowest Point In The Series (Fanservice-Wise)?

Moondrop

Banned
No, it isn't the lowest point in the series as that FMV hardly registered when playing the game back in the day.

The lowest point in the series for fanservice is whenever you personally decided that Final Fantasy Games weren't serving you fun any more.
 

Dragon

Banned
Advent Children is real fan service.
Dissidia is real fan service.

I don't agree with your definition of fan service.
 
The low point in the series?

It happens for seriously 5 seconds, that entire bit of her falling. Yeah, it's absolutely awful, but I wouldn't call that fan service so much as god awful CG and someone trying to animate dem big boys.

But 5 seconds, and unless you're staring at her bewbs, you may not even notice it.


Meanwhile, that FF Type 0 Creeper shit I just watched.
I don't understand. Why not just sanction a porn project on the side?

How does creeping on the main characters in their tiny underwear make any practical sense in the game world other than to get a digital boner?
 
In a world where Final Fantasy X-2 and XIII (and it's waifu-sequels) exist, you want to point out that because of a few seconds in a relatively lengthy FMV it is the lowest point in the series?

I completely disagree.
 

depths20XX

Member
Oh no, this brief 5 seconds of shitty CGI where a badly animated characters boobs move are truly the lowest point of the series.

It's almost like FFX-2 didn't exist or something.

It's fucking hilarious that you also had to mention (slightly NSFW). Give me a break.
 
The OP's point about Fight Club is the epitome of ridiculous. If you don't understand the point of that scene as a perfect character-establishing moment, as well as setting up multiple call backs throughout the film (including the very last scene!), then I can only conclude you didn't get the first thing about the movie. It's also extremely unfanservicey; hard to imagine anyone getting even remotely aroused at it.

The FF examples are pretty awful though, especially those Type-0 ones. But I've come to assume there's no longer any "FF low point" anymore, just a perpetually descending ravine.
 
Let's not forget this either:

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This...this was very unfortunate, and made even less sense.

Unfortunate? This was the most iconic scene is the entire game.

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The most offensive thing about FF7 was the translation.

The OP's point about Fight Club is the epitome of ridiculous. If you don't understand the point of that scene as a perfect character-establishing moment, as well as setting up multiple call backs throughout the film (including the very last scene!), then I can only conclude you didn't get the first thing about the movie. It's also extremely unfanservicey; hard to imagine anyone getting even remotely aroused at it.

The FF examples are pretty awful though, especially those Type-0 ones. But I've come to assume there's no longer any "FF low point" anymore, just a perpetually descending ravine.

lmao, go in!
 
It IS actually pretty annoying that the first FF game exclusively featuring female player characters opens up with a fucking pop star show, then features the exact same show as a major plot point in the middle of this saving the world thing that is treated as a sideline to Yuna blabbering about her nameless pseudo-imagnary boyfriend.

Ehh the party in FFV was 3/4s female, s'all good.

And hey that second concert was a different song in a different place!

Also, women make up imaginary boyfriends all the time. It's science.
 

NateDog

Member
It's one thing to think this, but to label it not safe for work is mind-boggling to me. I don't see any issue with it. In Metal Gear Solid 4 you can shake the Six-Axis in a Codec call to Rose and her boobs jiggle and bounce all over the place. If you're looking for a low point I'd say THAT is one.
 
Not directed towards anyone in particular~

Just because a demographic that was targeted with this fanservice back then has grown up and matured, it doesn't necessarily mean the medium needs to mature alongside them.

Otherwise we are just the next generation of adults saying what younger people enjoy is bad.
 

Zaku

Member
OP, there are far worse moments in Final Fantasy as a series.

Final Fantasy X-2 is chock full of lower moments, but even mainline games aren't safe. Vanille's L'Cie placement is pretty cringeworthy in FFXIII, as is Snow's Shiva summon and the way they interlock. Hell, Tifa's victory pose where she thrusts her chest out could be argued as a lower point, because at least that's pretty blatant.

I'll be honest, until you brought this up I never thought of that scene as fanservicey. The first time I saw it, I remember thinking: "Crap, did something just happen to Tifa when Weapon launched that attack? Crap, it did."
 

vato_loco

Member
A lot of people have overlooked her as a character because of the breasts. Even the ones who do praise her character still seem unable to not mention it. Even fan-art that is apparently meant to be clean or respectful get ruined when the artist attempts to add two gigantic circles in order to "get it right".
That's something that makes me wonder: so there should be no big breasted characters at all, since that's the focus a lot of gamers would have? That would be a bit much, wouldn't it? I mean, there are big breasted women in the real world, and one could very well argue that Tifa is a very well developed character, not just a pair of boobs.
 
You're grasping at straws here.

It's CGI from 1997, with poor animations and 3D tech. This isn't a motion-captured scene, it's someone fumbling around hoping the result looks like a woman being hit by shockwave and falling.

Even if the jiggling itself was by some chance an earnest attempt at realism, Tifa's breasts and crotch are the focus of the camera for the entire time she's in frame. To help understand why I say that, try searching "rule of thirds." It's a theory of composition that states that the focus of an image should be not in the direct center of the piece, but sort of off to a corner, because that's more pleasing to the eye. In the given scene, Tifa's face only falls within the bounds for the rule of thirds for a fraction of the time compared to her breasts.
 

Pyrrhus

Member
In a series with Lulu, Leblanc, Chocolina, Vanille, and Lightning's costomes in LR, this is what you go with as your low point?
 

Jarate

Banned
Vaan is the low point in the series, blatant bishi fanservice

I get the feeling that people think of Tifa as a fanservice character when she's actually one of the best developed characters in the series, that's why there's way more fan pictures of her in erotic situations then like a character like Yuffie. When are we going to have the thread where people complain that Teras transformation in 6 was blatant fanservice
 
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