X-Wing
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Pre-rendered CGI can also be captured on PS5...
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Is The Death Stranding 2 trailer in-game or CGI?
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There is zero proof they all are and infact I would go as far to say that its highly likely the "captured on (system)" will be the new misleading marketing BS replacing "In Engine" soon since many of yall fall for that alot easier. Devs probably have a list of other misleading replacement phrases already lined up to replace it once people start catching on.
Anytime something highly impressive runs in realtime on actual console hardware (not just maxed dev kits) developers go Out of there Way to Scream "Realtime" from the rooftops. When they dont its obviously in question and for good reason.
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3liteDragon
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Gonna be hilarious when the game’s out & it looks exactly like that. “Captured on PS4/5” has always been the game running on the console, that’s the whole point of the label. Same is true with this, it ain’t pre-rendered. The Spider-Man 2 trailer’s another example.
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Klosshufvud
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Those are cutscenes, which regardless if in-game, in-engine or entirely CGI, will look better than actual gameplay. Death Stranding 1 also had some insanely detailed cutscenes but the actual game toned it all massively down. So regardless what label they put on the trailer, we won't know how the gameplay looks until we see it.
You misunderstand or have not read my previous posts in here There is not much special about what was shown so of course it will look the same.
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squarealex
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Did you can read OP ? Captured on PS5
TonyK
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In fact it's the opposite. It's the only open world I played that even traversal is pure gameplay and not only pushing the analog forward.
Vick
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MasterCornholio
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Looking at some of the comments.
I don't believe this is a video being played on a PS5.
I don't believe this is a video being played on a PS5.
Physiognomonics
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It's looking very similar to the first game. They obviously further improved the characters models. Besides it's "captured" on PS5 so that means real-time.
The first game is already looking incredibly great on PS5 for those who actually played it. A real underrated showcase for the hardware IMO.
The first game is already looking incredibly great on PS5 for those who actually played it. A real underrated showcase for the hardware IMO.
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Black_Mamba
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Totally "tell me you haven't played DS without saying you haven't played DS" moment.
This is the original game (scene from the end, so probably story spoilers):
This is the original game (scene from the end, so probably story spoilers):
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
In game in that if you put all resources into making as beautiful an image as possible, but not playable, not representative of gameplay visuals gets my vote.
midnightAI
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Realtime cutscenes meaning they can get the perfect lighting, camera angles and have the highest quality models. They can even use pre-calculated physics so they play out exactly the same each time its run and so don't eat resources.
Portugeezer
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It's a nice gif, but it's still a gif and your mind is filling in the gaps. Watch the trailer, it looks amazing but at the most it's in engine, not CGI.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
THE BEST MAN LOOKING MAN IN GAME VIDEO GAME
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
In engine. Go get your eyes checked.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Great trailer visually, but it pulls a whole bunch of tricks out of the usual grab-bag for maximum impact:
Keep each shot relatively simple with a single element as its primary focus, so the viewer's eye is drawn to where most of the render budget is being spent. Mo-cap everything then use some extreme lighting and vfx to obscure as many of the usual CG "tells" as possible.
The great advantage of cinematics compared to actual gameplay footage is that the artists have total control over the framing and overall scene composition allowing them to maximize resource utilization.
Keep each shot relatively simple with a single element as its primary focus, so the viewer's eye is drawn to where most of the render budget is being spent. Mo-cap everything then use some extreme lighting and vfx to obscure as many of the usual CG "tells" as possible.
The great advantage of cinematics compared to actual gameplay footage is that the artists have total control over the framing and overall scene composition allowing them to maximize resource utilization.
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This is, without a doubt, the best, most realistic display of complex human emotions, in a realtime rendered scene, ever.
Nothing comes close to this, not yet at least.
Regarding the DS2 rendering, it looks fantastic, as expected, maybe somewhere between DS1 and that CGI commercial for DS1 that someone posted here, partly due to the great engine (pushed probably to the limits on ps5) and pristine IQ, but i think it is mostly because of the unique, immensly creative direction and scene composition that Kojima always does in his games.
Thirty7ven
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It’s all real time and it looks glorious.
Esppiral
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What is supposed to look CGI in those gifs?
ChiefDada
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But it looks just like the actual trailer in this case so what's the issue?
PixelatedBeast
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I believe it is real time graphics and will look just as amazing on release day. The Decima engine is the "new player" on the block.
Just to make a note, an Insomiac dev said they got Spiderman 2 graphics to look like Miles Morales CGI trailers. Another clue to it being PS5 only.Jesus F***ing Christ I don't want to hear another goofus state how underpowered these consoles are ever again. This is higher quality than the PS5 CGI advertisements. Fight me.
Real-Time on PS5, 30fps
Offline CGI, 1 frame every 20hrs or so
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nemiroff
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My personal definition kinda goes like this: A) Pre-rendered video / "CGI", B) Realtime rendered cinematic cutscene (some people also call this "CGI" btw..)(on-rails "in-game graphics", often with additional effects, cameras and better image quality), and C) Realtime rendered user controlled gameplay. I'd say this is most likely real time rendered cinematic cutscenes.
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Heisenberg007
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All in-game! 
Also, the salt in this thread is incredible
Also, the salt in this thread is incredible
Rendered Tangent
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Is it just me, but do Japanese developers make some of the best looking games?
Think, Resident Evil remakes, MGS5, Death Stranding, Street Fighter, GT7, the new Final Fantasy games.
They all look incredible, in many cases industry leading.
Think, Resident Evil remakes, MGS5, Death Stranding, Street Fighter, GT7, the new Final Fantasy games.
They all look incredible, in many cases industry leading.
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remember_spinal
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I need to know what people think current gen games are supposed to look like lol
Klosshufvud
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I see what you're meaning. Japanese devs are generally more keen on a refined and consistent art and visual design. I'm reminded of Ace Combat 7 and how well they portrayed near-futuristic tech. And the artistry that goes into every single MGS game which is just absolutely packed with legendary artwork and 3D models. It says something when Japanese PS2 games to this day still look marvelous.
pleaseinsertdisctwo
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That CGI that it’s comparing it to looks incredibly mediocre.
Physiognomonics
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No. Captured on PS5 means real-time (at least for all games with some kind of exclusivity on PS5).
And in-engine means "We are going to try to confuse them but yes it's CGI". It has being like this the whole gen.
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PixelatedBeast
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Okay, but I think you're under selling this accomplishment. Thats what they're aiming to have their in-game graphics looking like. To have something comparable to CGI running in real time is nuts. I mean besides HFW and Death Stranding 2 that both run on the Decima Engine, there is no other open world game that could look as impressive as what Spiderman might be, especially since Insomiac have already implemented raytracing and FSR 2.1 in Spiderman before.
Insane Metal
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Saw the stills thought it was CGI... watched the trailer and it's pretty obvious it's real time.
There too small and automaticly invite your imagination into filling out what isnt fully resolved.
I have Driveclub and Ive never seen shit look anything like its gif form. 99% percent of the time it distorts reality.
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schaft0620
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Have you seen DS1 on PS5?
kiphalfton
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I guess you have a point.
Since traversal is the only gameplay component in the game, and no other gameplay is diluting the experience, by definition that would make it "pure" gameplay.
TonyK
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Do you know there are weapons, enemies and bosses, right?
A generation ahead of last gen games.
TheRedRiders
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I have a strong hunch the visuals will look better on launch, Kojima and one of the actresses in the game also said something similar.
Regardless it still looks insanely good.
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