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Is the PS3 already the Gamecube of this generation?
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plagiarize
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software wise it's much more like the Xbox than the GameCube. almost all the multiplatform games come out on it, and it has a number of worthy exclusives if not nearly as many as on other systems.
BadlyCookedTurkey
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NeoJobe said:
So now we're comparing with 360, wii, DS and PSP? Not Gamecube?
:lol :lol
iam glad someone mentioned this! I studied this topic for quit some time now and after months of research and hard work i can finally say: You are wrong OP!
for evidence check this chart:
I also came up with some absolute mindblowing proof for the NDS in late 2006, but thought it would be better to keep it a secret, well screw that, i guess humanity is ready now!
stay tuned for more evidence and proof that the dreamcast was just like 4 n64s duct-taped together in fall 2009!
for evidence check this chart:
I also came up with some absolute mindblowing proof for the NDS in late 2006, but thought it would be better to keep it a secret, well screw that, i guess humanity is ready now!
stay tuned for more evidence and proof that the dreamcast was just like 4 n64s duct-taped together in fall 2009!
Well his argument was screwed anyway, he just dealt himself the coup de grace.Sadist said:
Anyway, on topic, It is unfair to compare PS3 - Sales age or otherwise - to any console last gen. In the PS2 era there was only one winner in a single playing field, with this gen, we have 2 seperate markets basically, and in the end the PS3 will end up on a par with 360, if not a little ahead.
So no, PS3 is not the GC if this gen, partly because it is selling better, and partly because this gen is not like the last, at all.
Well, no true Nintendo fan would use the Gamecube name in that way, after all, sales don't matter, only the amount of fun you have with your console, fuck reality! :loldrohne said:
Anyway, surely it would be more accurate to compare PS3 to the Xbox, after all, it is the most powerful console of the generation, has some of the best games (especially exclusively) and is proving to be a massive money sink for Sony. Yes, that comparison is FAR more accurate, after all, the GC never lost Nintendo a penny.
Stop It said:
Well I've obviously performed some sort of faux pas...
But as for your point, the PS3 is only slightly outpacing the GC at this point in the GC's life.
And that was my question, would it find a way out of this holiday and catch up or beat the 360?
It just seems like an awfully late point to have only sold 6 million in the states.
D.Lo
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It's really more like a combination of the last two generations.
The Wii is like the PS1 - came from nowhere to dominance with the right tech, right timing, right price and right marketing.
The PS3 is like the N64 - assumed winner that failed to reach expectations due to poor hardware decisions and living in the wake of the far more successful competitor.
And the 360 is like a slightly better Xbox - bought its way into the market, doing better financially then the first one but would still not exist without mass capitalisation from a defensive MS.
The Wii is like the PS1 - came from nowhere to dominance with the right tech, right timing, right price and right marketing.
The PS3 is like the N64 - assumed winner that failed to reach expectations due to poor hardware decisions and living in the wake of the far more successful competitor.
And the 360 is like a slightly better Xbox - bought its way into the market, doing better financially then the first one but would still not exist without mass capitalisation from a defensive MS.
BadlyCookedTurkey
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Stop It said:
Nintendo fans say this?
drakesfortune
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I owned and loved a GameCube for the quality hardcore titles Nintendo released on a consistent basis on the platform even though a lot of 3rd parties ignored the system. I owned and sold the Wii because technologically it felt about on par with the gamecube but with controls I wanted to love but ultimately hated, and because with the exception of two first party titles, all of the good games were going to the 360 and PS3. No longer are 3rd parties ignoring the Wii, but the games they're putting out there are largely coated in shit and polished with a turd. Sure, they got Cabella going full force into the Wii, but that's no loss.
So the Wii may sell like bananas, but I look at the audience buying them, and they aren't the same people playing the games I love. So no, the Wii is not the PS2 of this generation. The PS2 had an amazing library of games by this point, and had great games coming out its ass left and right. The PS3 certainly isn't the PS2, but I'll take the quality titles coming out on PS3, and my BluRay over dated graphics and wonky controls any day of the week.
I think people pretending that Wii is the PS2 of this gen are smoking high quality crack cocaine. It may have sales like PS2, but high quality games it is in serious lacktitude of.
As I've said before, I camped out at target, with my wife, to buy a Wii, not a PS3. I've never done anything that nerdy in my entire life. I really...REALLY wanted to love the Wii. I simply can't reward Nintendo for what they put out there, and the promises they made with regard to controls and graphics that were simply impossible for them to keep.
Now a Wii HD with much, much, MUCH tighter controls, and much much MUCH more graphical power is definitely something I may buy into some day. For now though, I'm sticking PS360. I'll buy back into Nintendo when I can walk into a Target and NOT hear some shitty midi violin playing the Super Mario Brothers theme, and instead see a big budget title aimed at me. Wii Music personifies my dislike for the direction Nintendo has gone in. I hope they have fun with their bags of money, because I'm not having fun with their games anymore.
That said, I'm buying a DS for my son for Christmas. :lol
So the Wii may sell like bananas, but I look at the audience buying them, and they aren't the same people playing the games I love. So no, the Wii is not the PS2 of this generation. The PS2 had an amazing library of games by this point, and had great games coming out its ass left and right. The PS3 certainly isn't the PS2, but I'll take the quality titles coming out on PS3, and my BluRay over dated graphics and wonky controls any day of the week.
I think people pretending that Wii is the PS2 of this gen are smoking high quality crack cocaine. It may have sales like PS2, but high quality games it is in serious lacktitude of.
As I've said before, I camped out at target, with my wife, to buy a Wii, not a PS3. I've never done anything that nerdy in my entire life. I really...REALLY wanted to love the Wii. I simply can't reward Nintendo for what they put out there, and the promises they made with regard to controls and graphics that were simply impossible for them to keep.
Now a Wii HD with much, much, MUCH tighter controls, and much much MUCH more graphical power is definitely something I may buy into some day. For now though, I'm sticking PS360. I'll buy back into Nintendo when I can walk into a Target and NOT hear some shitty midi violin playing the Super Mario Brothers theme, and instead see a big budget title aimed at me. Wii Music personifies my dislike for the direction Nintendo has gone in. I hope they have fun with their bags of money, because I'm not having fun with their games anymore.
That said, I'm buying a DS for my son for Christmas. :lol
BadlyCookedTurkey
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NeoJobe said:
Dunno. Start a thread.
NeoJobe said:
I don't think anyone who is truly enjoying their gaming this generation should give a shit about next generation.
EDIT: And now you're modifying your "point" to deal with the backlash of this thread because no where in the first post does anything like your last sentence above appear that I see.
DarienA said:
It was sort of implied. I didn't want to go off on end talking about possible futures. But if it matters, then that is why it matters. I don't have to write down every single point in the OP in order for it to be a valid point. I was responding to someone's question about why it mattered that is how we got here. I didn't modify anything, I was asked.
NeoJobe said:
Sort of implied... You know I could sit here and say I'm sort of implying you're an idiot... and that wouldn't be true either...
The only thing that changes each generation along with the tech, is what type of gamer/genre gets appealed to more than others initially. By the middle of the generation pretty much every gamer/genre is getting support.
Zombie James
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Considering it's going to outsell the Gamecube as soon as the end of this holiday or early next year and outclasses the Gamecube in every single area (third-party support and online, specifically).... hell no.
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Segata Sanshiro
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Yes and no.
BadlyCookedTurkey
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NeoJobe said:
People randomly throwing chartz into threads for no reason?
NeoJobe said:
When you go beyond reporting facts, when you start casting a judgement of success or failure based on your own personal metrics, and when you are actively seeking to be an alarmist with regards to a future that you haven't proven the reader you have the ability to prognosticate, you are waist deep in fanboy shtick.
If you're better than that, then let your writing show it.
After the surging increase of PS3 sales, Microsoft did the only real sane thing to stay on top of the game - slash that price down. It's just too damn affordable for the average person to even consider a PS3 when so many multiplat titles are available on something that costs so, so much less. The 360's return to dominance is hardly unexpected, nor does it signify the death knell of the PS3 - it signifies sane a sane customer base who just aren't looking to pay more for the same.
When we see a few more well-advertised exclusives on the PS3, a significant drop in price, and maybe a slim model, the 360 is going to have to pull a lot of magic out of its hat to remain anything more than the butt of RRoD jokes.
Is the PS3 the GCN of this generation? Sure, if you're predicting Sony will provide some minimal hardware revision in 2010 and annihilate every other console on the market in sales, drawing casual gamers from every corner of the planet to buy the console in unprecedented hordes.
When we see a few more well-advertised exclusives on the PS3, a significant drop in price, and maybe a slim model, the 360 is going to have to pull a lot of magic out of its hat to remain anything more than the butt of RRoD jokes.
Is the PS3 the GCN of this generation? Sure, if you're predicting Sony will provide some minimal hardware revision in 2010 and annihilate every other console on the market in sales, drawing casual gamers from every corner of the planet to buy the console in unprecedented hordes.
Metalmurphy
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They make up numbers and suck at the guessing game.NeoJobe said:
TheRagnCajun
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NeoJobe said:
The site in question basing their numbers on formulae rather than actual sales data.
drakesfortune
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EagleEyes said:
Oh come on, and XBox got Kotor and whole slew of great third party games as well that never went to PS2. That type of stuff always happens. For the most part both systems are getting full support this gen. Certainly more than ever before.
mr_bishiuk
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plagiarize said:
And its losing money hand over fist due to putting unnecessary hardware in
Is there any real doubt?
Psychotext
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You do realise that Sony has had to do exactly the same thing with the PS3 as MS did with the original Xbox right? They're absorbing massive losses to try and keep themselves in the market.D.Lo said:
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