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Itagaki leaves Tecmo, sues Tecmo president
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thetrin said:
The same can be said of movies. How is it that Terminator 3 sucks so much when there were still so many hardworking actors and digital effects creators involved in the project? Directors and creative leads are fundamental to a project, while hardworking technical grunts can be more easily replaced. There's no question that Itagaki is a huge part of Ninja Gaiden's success, even though he's not the SOLE person responsible. Arnold is just as responsible for making Terminator iconic as Cameron, but that still couldn't save T3.
Gokurakumaru
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Vast Inspiration said:
No one wants to read my "literary vomit" but everybody's laughing their heads off to Draft's asinine comments about people's girlfriends and his ass-cheeks. Drop the double standard and put me on ignore if what I say bugs you so much. This isn't an Itagaki-worship thread no matter how much you and Draft might want it to be.
I don't like Itagaki because he's a loudmouth with a bad attitude and an ego far exceeding his talent. The fact that he bashes companies, competing franchises and even his own colleagues' efforts in his interviews and you guys get your panties in a bunch about me enjoying karma catching up with him is hilarious. If the guy knew the bunch of you thought he needed defending from random posters like me he'd be downright embarrassed.
As I said in my first post, I don't condone what Tecmo is doing if it is in fact as one-sided as the man claims, but frankly he's too big a BS artist for me to believe it. None of you even know the details here. Were you all this quick to condemn him when that girl filed charges against him or were you too busy high fiving each other over how pimp he was? The guy should be thankful Tecmo made his criminal behavior go away the last time and quit while he's ahead.
I don't care what DoA1 did for Tecmo. The game only just became competitive in DoA4 and in no way changes what a dick Itagaki has been for years now.
Apocryphon
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duckroll said:
This.
He has been the guy responsible for overseeing all aspects of the art and technical design elements, making sure schedules, budget and milestones are all hit (which is where this completion bonus will come in), overseeing the QA etc...
His role is a crucial one. It's dominant in games development and the person in that job is the greatest influence on the end product. Ninja Gaiden and DoA are the games they are because of his vision... if you will.
It's why Metal Gear wouldn't be Metal Gear without Kojima.
Tim the Wiz
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ThirdEye said:
:lol
thetrin said:
I think he must have been a major influence. But if he is the same in real life as he comes across in interviews, he is ungracious, self centered, opinionated, arrogant and generally a bit of a dick. The way he slagged off Sigma (which garnered higher scores than NGII) was extremely self-centred and bizarre.
Maybe he is a good game designer, but would you necessarily want to work with such a person? Would you even hire such a person if you knew his abrasive style would rub your other employees up the wrong way? Maybe he was highly revered by Team Ninja, or maybe they're currently throwing a party in his absence. It will certainly make good viewing to see how this plays out, especially if it goes to court.
rockman zx
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Don´t make any judgment, we can trust 100 % on Itagaki neither Tecmo.
Rekki-Maru
Banned
it's one thing to have an opinion about Itagaki, but there are just alot of uninformed trolls in this thread..makes me fucking sick reading the shit they post.
MonkeyLicker
Art does not make 60FPS @ 1080i with real world physics on the PSf*ckin2.
After all the Miyamoto, Kojima and Jaffe love around here I find it odd that now of all times people are saying "No one person is responsible for great games."
Bearillusion
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ThirdEye said:
Yes it will because eventually you'll be able to factor in PS3 sales.
proposition
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Well because the people saying it actually like those people, duhh.MonkeyLicker said:
Bearillusion
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What has Jaffe done since leaving Sony?
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Bearillusion said:
Hes working on smaller games that take as long to make as full sized games!
proposition
Banned
Also, :lol for the people who are like 'well he is slagging off NG:S and it's better than his own NG2!'. So Hayashi adds like, new swords with half a moveset, and a few new enemies and areas, and suddenly it's entirely his game like Itagaki didn't mastermind anything?
Awesome revisionism there dudes.
Awesome revisionism there dudes.
behem0th x
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Gokurakumaru said:
Just a couple side-notes...
-Tecmo was part of the investigation that cleared Itagaki I believe, so I don't see where you're going with that point. Apparantly there were multiple relationships within the workplace, even though they haven't said much else besides that, I'd have to guess that she thought hers was profitable.
-What does Itagaki being a dick have to do with how he is working on games and what he does in his personal life? Better yet, wtf does it have to do with him suing Tecmo? Nothing IMO.
-Companies rip people off all of the time; EA, Vivendi, Activision, SCEA etc etc. in just recent memory. Sometimes the workers just cut their loses and quit because they can't afford the legal fee's to take on a company that big. I now for shit sure if I thought I was owed 1.4 million dollars, I would absolutely file suit myself.
-His interviews are funny... it's obvious that he has grudges with other companies, but if you don't know the specific history between him and the other devs as far as mud has being slung, then of course you'll cry foul.
-Who cares if you only just now thought DOA4 became competitive, others have been enjoying the series for years now, you're a little late to the party.
-Leaving to go pick up NG2 in about an hour or so.
The-Switcher
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Firewire said:
Twisted Metal 5 Black or whatever.
duckroll said:
His studio made Twisted Metal: Head On for the Playstation 2:
http://ps2.ign.com/objects/953/953230.html
MickeyKnox
Member
I can't fucking stand Itagaki and any of his bullshit, but that really has no impact on the fact that he's completely right in this particular situation.
The-Switcher
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No wonder his sexual harrasement attempt failed.
duckroll said:
Eat Sleep Play's first game was to do the Twisted Metal port though, but yes he's not at Santa Monica anymore, they're working on something bigger than a typical small PSN title right now, I think he's not doing that casual thing anymore, Calling All Cars didn't exactly work out too well for Jaffe.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Eiji said:
Bullshit.thetrin said:
You think countless classic Spielberg movies would have been even a tenth of the awesomeness without him?
Actually, let's take this back to games. You think God Of War would have been so awesome without Cory and David? Would Populous, Theme Park, Dungeon Keeper, Syndicate etc even exist without Peter Molyneux? Would Metal Gear be phenomenal without Kojima?
And Itagaki is every bit as loud as any of them. He's strong, speaks his mind, and as a result will know how to run and direct a team. Without him, the magic is likely missing.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Eiji said:
Oh Duckroll :lol :lol :lol
If you look at Nintendo they still manage to retain a Miyamoto-esque level across all studios even without him directing the games, EAD Tokyo for example.pswii60 said:
There's no reason to believe Team Ninja can't do the same. Just look at Sigma, Hayashi and the team handled that perfectly. Look at Ninja Gaiden DS which Itagaki obviously wasn't the main developer of as much as it's PR man since he was on NG2.
Miyamoto's still pretty involved with the big EAD games... he was with TP, Galaxy and Wii Sports/Fit at least. The ones he really isn't (Wii Play, Mario Kart) have also arguably been less well received by critics.Sage00 said:
Likewise, Itagaki was pretty involved with Gaiden DS going by interviews. He was hands off on Sigma largely, but there's obvious reasons for that.
Ariexv said:
You missed my point, it is a wannabe but he looks down on it really. He praises the game he just finished creating a the superior version, an evolution but failed to deliver and he was working on the same formula of his pervious title.
Like I said he didn't deliver, and goes to show that not any idiot can improve the title, he certainly did not.