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Jimmy Kimmel calls out deceptive Republicans over Graham-Cassidy Obamacare repeal

Joeku

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Lol. Fuck Colbert. He did a Jimmy Fallon and showed his true colours.

To be fair, if it was just the one joke on stage at the Emmys, the thing with Spicer wouldn't have been so bad. It was everyone in Hollywood chuckling it up with him and enjoying it after the fact that made it all the worse.

Except, for some reason, Lucious Malfoy:
 

brianmcdoogle

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Let me put you to bed, sleepy baby.

Good moderation this past week.

To be fair, if it was just the one joke on stage at the Emmys, the thing with Spicer wouldn't have been so bad. It was everyone in Hollywood chuckling it up with him and enjoying it after the fact that made it all the worse.

Except, for some reason, Lucious Malfoy:

Hello to Jason Isaacs!
 

vordhosbn

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To be fair, if it was just the one joke on stage at the Emmys, the thing with Spicer wouldn't have been so bad. It was everyone in Hollywood chuckling it up with him and enjoying it after the fact that made it all the worse.

Except, for some reason, Lucious Malfoy:

Good to know there's people in Hollywood with principles left, others just profess them when it helps their ratings.
 

watershed

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To be fair, if it was just the one joke on stage at the Emmys, the thing with Spicer wouldn't have been so bad. It was everyone in Hollywood chuckling it up with him and enjoying it after the fact that made it all the worse.

Except, for some reason, Lucious Malfoy:
Thank god at least one celebrity at the Emmys had the strength of their convictions.
 

a.wd

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Fair play to Kimmel, that politician went on and lied right to the public, we should have stronger penalisation in place for politicians who knowingly lie.
 

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To be fair, if it was just the one joke on stage at the Emmys, the thing with Spicer wouldn't have been so bad. It was everyone in Hollywood chuckling it up with him and enjoying it after the fact that made it all the worse.

Except, for some reason, Lucious Malfoy:

he's right you know
 

RPGCrazied

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I hear this bill is the worst one yet. And we all thought Graham one of the saner Republicans. lol
 

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More at the article: http://time.com/4949096/jimmy-kimmel-health-care-obamacare/?xid=homepage

Youtube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlibbx5sx0


I hope to see more and more high profile voices continue to call out the dishonest nature of the Republican Party. I want this stuff shouted from the hilltops.

I've always found it so surreal and disheartening that political discourse in this country isn't about differing viewpoints... but rather a battle between facts and deception. Can't help but daydream about some magical solution to finally "open everyone's eyes" (as cliche as that sentiment is)

EDIT: To make your voice heard in opposition to this bill you can call: 202-224-3121
you realize anyone that actually needs to hear this will just say its the "liberal media" doing hit jobs, right?

Seriously. Kimmel has a right to call out this asshole for using his name and lying to his face.

This is a load of horseshit.

you have something further on this?
 

RPGCrazied

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Check out this map. Looks partisan. States that are GOP dominated get funding while blue states get cuts.

Even as a Texan myself I don't want this bill. Why can other countries do single payer, but America can't? I tell you why, greed.
 

Anoregon

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God damn Jason Isaacs don't fuck around.
 

ZeoVGM

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What did I miss

Colbert brought Spicer onto the Emmy awards as a surprise and used him to poke at Trump.

It wasn't a great idea and it was fairly tone deaf. It was also one moment in 10 years of Colbert going in on Republicans and helping to educate young viewers on politics. Some people have decided to say, "Fuck Colbert," based on one decision they disagreed with, as if he went Bill Maher on everyone.

I generally agree with what Jason Isaacs said in his Instagram post but I also don't think it's that big of a deal in the long run. Certainly not enough for me to jump to "fuck Colbert." I don't expect perfection, I expect people to generally do the right thing and he does, 95% of the time.

The ease at which liberals can tell people who are on their side to "fuck off" because they do one thing disagreeable is really depressing and needs to change if we want to make legitimate pushes forward in 2018 and 2020. Look at their entire body of work, not singular moments.

For example, Kimmel having Spicer on just last week and taking a selfie doesn't make the impact of his multiple monologues on health care any less impactful.
 

mattp

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if i were kimmel i would have told bill cassidy to go fuck himself and get my name out of his god damn mouth
 

SlimySnake

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I thought the video was incredibly moving. it was great how he pointed out that his son already has health insurance and he doesnt need the money. he is doing all this for regular americans like us and people still want him to go away. I will never understand this.

Let me put you to bed, sleepy baby.

lol funniest ban i've seen in a while.
 

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Colbert brought Spicer onto the Emmy awards as a surprise and used him to poke at Trump.

It wasn't a great idea and it was fairly tone deaf. It was also one moment in 10 years of Colbert going in on Republicans and helping to educate young viewers on politics. Some people have decided to say, "Fuck Colbert," based on one decision they disagreed with, as if he went Bill Maher on everyone.

I generally agree with what Jason Isaacs said in his Instagram post but I also don't think it's that big of a deal in the long run. Certainly not enough for me to jump to "fuck Colbert." I don't expect perfection, I expect people to generally do the right thing and he does, 95% of the time.

The ease at which liberals can tell people who are on their side to "fuck off" because they do one thing disagreeable is really depressing and needs to change if we want to make legitimate pushes forward in 2018 and 2020. Look at their entire body of work, not singular moments.

For example, Kimmel having Spicer on just last week and taking a selfie doesn't make the impact of his multiple monologues on health care any less impactful.

Oh, I see. I feel like Colbert wants to use Spicer to piss off Trump.

The Isaacs Instagram is amazing.
 

Arkeband

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Oh, I see. I feel like Colbert wants to use Spicer to piss off Trump.

The Isaacs Instagram is amazing.

People think it's hip and cool to be like "rich liberals hate u, like and subscribe to more hot takes from this Twitter account instead" when said rich liberals (Colbert, Kimmel) are where a lot of people get their news from. Which is important in getting away from the purity test thread derails, in discussing how well spoken Kimmel has been on this issue.

The only elected voices I've heard against this legislation have been Elizabeth Warren and Bernie. They need these late night hosts and talk shows to disseminate information when every other Democrat is too busy fundraising or some shit to have a voice.
 

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Check out this map. Looks partisan. States that are GOP dominated get funding while blue states get cuts.


Even as a Texan myself I don't want this bill. Why can other countries do single payer, but America can't? I tell you why, greed.

Oklahoma finally wins! Wooooo!

Just kidding. This trash sucks.
 

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you realize anyone that actually needs to hear this will just say its the "liberal media" doing hit jobs, right?

So no famous liberals should ever speak out on anything because brainwashed conservatives will just say "durr liberal media?"

First of all, not all conservative-leaning people watch Fox News obsessively. There are enough persuadable people on the margins to have a decent impact.

Also, this is also about motivating your own base. So we do need famous liberals to start screaming about this stuff so that our own people show up to vote next year and relentlessly pester these GOP assholes with protests and phone calls and office visits.
 

Oni Jazar

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you realize anyone that actually needs to hear this will just say its the "liberal media" doing hit jobs, right?

That's not true. If enough people realize what the hell is going on then it does make a difference. It certainly helped last time when you had TV footage of people in wheelchairs being dragged out of senators' offices. What's going on now with repeal is unpopular everywhere including red state republicans. This is about taking healthcare away from millions of people whose lives literally depend on it. Republicans have lost the fight on Healthcare as a service among Americans. Last Trumpcare repeal plan just had 12% support.
 

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To be fair, if it was just the one joke on stage at the Emmys, the thing with Spicer wouldn't have been so bad. It was everyone in Hollywood chuckling it up with him and enjoying it after the fact that made it all the worse.

Except, for some reason, Lucious Malfoy:

next time I'm watching Harry Potter I'm rooting for the Malfoy's
 
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More at the article: http://time.com/4949096/jimmy-kimmel-health-care-obamacare/?xid=homepage

Youtube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlibbx5sx0


I hope to see more and more high profile voices continue to call out the dishonest nature of the Republican Party. I want this stuff shouted from the hilltops.

I've always found it so surreal and disheartening that political discourse in this country isn't about differing viewpoints... but rather a battle between facts and deception. Can't help but daydream about some magical solution to finally "open everyone's eyes" (as cliche as that sentiment is)

EDIT: To make your voice heard in opposition to this bill you can call: 202-224-3121

Keep in mind you should also call even if your representatives are opposed to this bill, my rep and both my senators are democrats but they always appreciate the encouragement.
 

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This illustrates a problem with the mentality of many people. Nobody is perfect and no one is going to do everything you agree with. That doesn't mean you should be so sanctimonious as to disregard every position they hold and every point they are trying to make.
 

Ignatz Mouse

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Lol. Fuck Colbert. He did a Jimmy Fallon and showed his true colours.

Have you heard his nightly monologue ever? He's cutting down Trump 24/7 and not always just for the laughs. I'm not sure what true colors you mean.

He makes no bones about his political leanings these days, something late night hosts never used to do.
 
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Have you heard his nightly monologue ever? He's cutting down Trump 24/7 and not always just for the laughs. I'm not sure what true colors you mean.

He makes no bones about his political leanings these days, something late night hosts never used to do.

But he didn't stab Spicy when he had the chance.
 
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I'm glad he did this. I wish more public figures spoke out like Kimmel just did.

Agreed.


This might come as a big shock but the fact that he is willing to play nice with all sides gives his voice more authority. It's harder to write someone off who is friendly and willing to listen to you.

Kimmel gets a lot of justified guff but his healthcare rants are always important and heartfelt.

I hope his son is healthy and growing (for those that don't know, his infant son had heart surgery).

What Republicans are trying to do with this, regardless of your "side of the aisle" is disgusting and morally wrong. Everybody should condemn them for this. People WILL DIE.

Here is why this is important. Kimmel's son has a heart defect called Tetralogy of Fallot. I have it as well. There is no fix or cure. There is just treatement. Life long treatment. His son will have future open heart surgeries. There is no diet, or exercises, or any life choice that will prevent future surgeries. One day, he won't be Kimmel's son, He will be just another person born with a condition that needs life long treatment. If he continues to live in the US, and the ACA gets replaced but a form of healthcare that existed before, he will be denied treatment. We all have. Unless he is somehow super rich, and just because his Dad is well off now, that means little in the future.Kimmel knows this and is using his influence now to make that future better for his son.

I'm disgusting, not surprised that Republicans are still trying to destroy healthcare.

I think this hyperbol isn't helping things. Republicans aren't trying to destroy health care. They are doing far worse. They are trying to take it back to how it was in the early 2000s. Where health care exists on two levels. a premium level which they and other upper class will enjoy, and a basic level for workers only to keep them only healthy enough to keep showing up to work. Anything elses falls into charity / inspirational porn to keep the lower class scared so they won't ask for better working conditions less they end up like us. Which for most people, is all the healthcare they will ever need / want. So for the majority of people, they can't envision a better system. They don't want to.
 

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Everyone brings up the crowd size and whatnot, but Spicey lied about some stuff for Trump as his official mouth piece that are truly harmful to our democracy.

The way he's been treated as some lovable dope with no agency in the lies he told is pretty disgusting to be honest.
 

Eidan

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Everyone brings up the crowd size and whatnot, but Spicey lied about some stuff for Trump as his official mouth piece that are truly harmful to our democracy.

The way he's been treated as some lovable dope with no agency in the lies he told is pretty disgusting to be honest.

It's a consequence of the caricature that SNL made of him. You saw something similar with Bush, where people started treating him as the lovable, in-over-his-head frat boy that Will Ferrell portrayed him as.

Anyway, Spicer isn't what this thread is about. Kimmel has every right to be outraged by Cassidy's brazen lies, and every American should be.
 

Mrbob

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Each Bill gets worse and worse. If this bill passes it's the death of the Republican party.
 

Arkeband

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It's a consequence of the caricature that SNL made of him. You saw something similar with Bush, where people started treating him as the lovable, in-over-his-head frat boy that Will Ferrell portrayed him as.

Anyway, Spicer isn't what this thread is about. Kimmel has every right to be outraged by Cassidy's brazen lies, and every American should be.

SNL invented the whole "invite the target in on the bit" when they had Tina Fey and Sarah Palin appear together. Malcolm Gladwell goes into this, and Colbert's career on the Colbert Report, in S1E10 of Revisionist History (his best episode).

Cassidy's been on television today responding to Kimmel's monologue and having to say that he's not a liar, which might actually persuade right-leaning people to look into his claims.
 

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Not a Kimmel fan but I could tell that he was being heartfelt in his disgust over Cassidy. Hopefully his response to this bill will help bring more awareness to the fight against it and the GOP.

Yeah, as I said in the other thread: it's disappointing but I understood what he was doing (using Spicer to poke at Trump -- he immediately shit on Spicer again moments after).

Doing one minor thing I disagree with does not cancel out a single moment of the past 10 years. That's silly. And I won't be part of the "liberals eating liberals" nonsense that sometimes happens the moment one of them does anything remotely disagreeable.

I personally thought it was hilarious, not that I can't see why people would have a problem. It was a silly moment that I think people were too caught up over compared to bigger issues from the past week such as those who are actually good at their jobs in the Trump Administration (Ex. Conway & Fox News), Hurricane relief, and this bill. Imperfect Allies vs. Deadly Enemies.
 

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For those that don't know Kimmel's son was born with a heart issue.

Under this GOP plan his son would have very well hit his lifetime max and would be kicked out of any healthcare. So they're on their own to cover it.

Kimmel could probably afford the millions to keep him alive. 90% of the population would have to watch their son die.
 

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Let me put you to bed, sleepy baby.

That’s pretty hilarious, but simultaneously if we’re going to start banning people for being dismissive as a result of a failed purity test, there’s gonna be many casualties.
 

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To be fair, if it was just the one joke on stage at the Emmys, the thing with Spicer wouldn't have been so bad. It was everyone in Hollywood chuckling it up with him and enjoying it after the fact that made it all the worse.

Except, for some reason, Lucious Malfoy:

This gave me chills. Go Jason Isaacs!
 

SeanC

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That’s pretty hilarious, but simultaneously if we’re going to start banning people for being dismissive as a result of a failed purity test, there’s gonna be many casualties.

Sure but would much be lost?



Kimmel going in on this allows for an audience that thinks other late night hosts and whatnot are too "political" and go out to avoid them. Kimmel's sort of walked the line, he's not all in one way or the other when it comes to presenting stances of his politics. So this kind of cuts through that "safe space" and maybe, just a bit, might turn people on to some serious issues that they think "oh it doesn't concern me" or "eh, whatever" (see: my mother - complains a lot but really doesn't know what's going on).
 
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To be fair, if it was just the one joke on stage at the Emmys, the thing with Spicer wouldn't have been so bad. It was everyone in Hollywood chuckling it up with him and enjoying it after the fact that made it all the worse.

Except, for some reason, Lucious Malfoy:

goddamn.