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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders |OT| ATTEMPT NO MANGA SPOILERS HERE
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I think we've opened a gate to a parallel universe.
I'm 100% certain there's an enemy stand at work here now.
Werewolf Jones
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That wasn't my intention at all guys, come on now.
Don't trust him guys!
Also it's Friday...
JadedWriter
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I'm on Chapter 5 of this game now doing the class trial, lol!!!!
That wasn't my intention at all guys, come on now.
Yes finally here.
That wasn't my intention at all guys, come on now.
Heh, that image is so fitting.
Tizoc
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Friday...
Tizoc
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I already posted that >=/
The Omega Man
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Well, this episode was... awkward, a gold mine for gifs though
Blackquill
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Disappointed. Nothing happened. They could put the whole battle in a single episode.
Polnareff's thing happened.
But yes, as I previously said, they could easily fit a majority of these fights into single episodes. Going from DRRR, where a single episode throws at you an overwhelming amount of information and events, to this, where they're desperately trying to pad fights out to justify their 2 cours, can be pretty grating.
Sibersk Esto
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Ah right, Alessi is fucking creepy. Been awhile since I read his chapters.
The Return of
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JoJo has been on a roll. Fucking hilarious and creepy all at once. I'm really glad I stuck with this show because the beginning fucking sucked
Actually they only animated 2 chapters out of the 5 that constitutes this story. Next episode is probably just going to be those 3 chapters.
5 chapters in one episode would mean cutting a lot of stuff, like the whole washing Polnareff scene.
They're not trying to justify their 2 cours, they're adapting the material. It doesn't fit into 1 cour.
Alessi is better than Geb. The villain and the stand are more interesting. I think it's a good fight (but it's too early to talk about it since it's not over yet).
Oh damn. Now I'm really curious how they're gonna make the transition from
Hol Horse shooting Dio to D'arby. That fight is pretty long if I remember correctly.
I'd argue that Set's is one of the most creative fights of season 3, and is one of the the few that show how creative stands can be.
Worst Egypt fight is probably a tie between Geb and Bastet
Oh hell no
jack_package_200
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Meh
They could have done a lot more cool shit with a Shadow stand
They could have done a lot more cool shit with a Shadow stand
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Not as deep as he thinks
I believe it's going to be part 1 and 2 for now.
That's what I mean. The ideal number of episodes would've been along the lines of 14-16 for the egypt arc, but because the way seasonal anime works in Japan, they have to drag it out into 24. The entirety of Part 1 and 2 was covered in that amount of time.
SolarKnight
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The Egypt arc alone was still longer than part 2 in the manga, and without rushing or cutting anything it does need the 2 cours.
Episode 32
Extended bath scene NOOOOO.
I like how quickly Polnareff understood what was up, at least. I chuckled when Jojo was said something like "Stay vigilant," and Polnareff replied "Who do you think I am?", but I guess he pulled through this time.
I've realized that Jotaro likes to stare at things and people, and look like he knows what's going on but, outside of combat, he usually doesn't.
Extended bath scene NOOOOO.
I like how quickly Polnareff understood what was up, at least. I chuckled when Jojo was said something like "Stay vigilant," and Polnareff replied "Who do you think I am?", but I guess he pulled through this time.
I've realized that Jotaro likes to stare at things and people, and look like he knows what's going on but, outside of combat, he usually doesn't.
It really doesn't
As someone who hasn't read part 2, I'd prefer to know I would have a complete adaptation of the manga by watching this, instead of one where they had to cut corners or abridge it significantly.
That's what I mean, they can complete the entirety of the egypt arc in 16 episodes easily. Even less. Alessi and Mariah don't need to be 2 parts. The first 2 part fight in SC was Hol Horse and J. Geil, and that's because those had serious story moments and plot developments occur in them. Alessi and Mariah are about as significant as Strength or Devil, both of which were a single episode fight.
Werewolf Jones
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Blaming Araki for how the show adapts his manga? lol.
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders - Episode 31
Agreed. A big selling point of this adaptation is that we are getting ALL the content. Every other adaptation of Stardust Crusaders has cut stuff out in the past. I want the all the meat, no "to get the rest of the story go read the manga" bullshit that so many anime pull >_<
The Mariah fight was hilarious - there was no way they were fitting that all in one episode without cutting shit. Sure it doesn't have the pacing of an adaptation like FMA Brotherhood (once we get past the stuff the first anime already covered) but for the most part the pacing has been fine. I can't really complain we you compare it to most other shonen like Naruto, Bleach, One Piece.
- I'm not used to Polanreff using his brain and being actually smart for once. It took me off guard.
- We can all agree Alessi is a pedophile right? Jeez >_>
- Goddamn Iggy do you do ANYTHING?
- WUT at the Bath Scene. Like holy shit what the fuck O_O
Agreed. A big selling point of this adaptation is that we are getting ALL the content. Every other adaptation of Stardust Crusaders has cut stuff out in the past. I want the all the meat, no "to get the rest of the story go read the manga" bullshit that so many anime pull >_<
The Mariah fight was hilarious - there was no way they were fitting that all in one episode without cutting shit. Sure it doesn't have the pacing of an adaptation like FMA Brotherhood (once we get past the stuff the first anime already covered) but for the most part the pacing has been fine. I can't really complain we you compare it to most other shonen like Naruto, Bleach, One Piece.
Not for that, for the queue of gimmicky and boring enemies.
Unless the show changed the order of the enemies appareances
EmCeeGramr
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Yeah, even in the manga the Alessi fight is the dark spot on the otherwise great Egypt half of SC. The fanservice, the gags aren't as strong as the end of Anubis or Bastet, it's one Polnareff focused bit too many so soon after Anubis, Set's powers don't lead to scenarios that are that imaginative or clever, etc.
Pretty much everything after this fight ends to the end of Part III is iconic JoJo's gold, which makes up for it, but still.
Pretty much everything after this fight ends to the end of Part III is iconic JoJo's gold, which makes up for it, but still.
Jex
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I don't think the pacing is that bad. I don't think it's that good, either. A really talented director and writer could certainly have cut down a number of the episodes this season (and last season, the Lovers, for example) while still retaining all the fights from the manga.
I understand that they have to serve many masters with this series - fans want to see the complete and unadulterated manga. The creator wants to see a faithful and loving adaptation. The production committee wants the show to run as long as it can to help boost sales of associated products such as the manga. But that doesn't excuse the shows obvious faults. Lets not forget they were happy to trim Phantom Blood to create a much tighter story where as they've allowed some bloat into Stardust Crusaders.
I understand that they have to serve many masters with this series - fans want to see the complete and unadulterated manga. The creator wants to see a faithful and loving adaptation. The production committee wants the show to run as long as it can to help boost sales of associated products such as the manga. But that doesn't excuse the shows obvious faults. Lets not forget they were happy to trim Phantom Blood to create a much tighter story where as they've allowed some bloat into Stardust Crusaders.
I'll talk more about what I think their plan was with splitting Alessi into two parts after the second part of it airs, since it requires me to talk about the second half of the fight. 
Also why they added the scene with Jotaro and Polnareff visiting the hotel and Iggy stealing the kebab sandwich thing and looking at Joseph and Avdol fighting Mariah, neither of those bits were in the manga.
Also why they added the scene with Jotaro and Polnareff visiting the hotel and Iggy stealing the kebab sandwich thing and looking at Joseph and Avdol fighting Mariah, neither of those bits were in the manga.
This pretty much sums up my exact feelings on the adaptation. I think the sudden resurgence in popularity of the series and the reverence that surrounds Stardust Crusaders for being the most iconic Part is causing DP to approach this through a highly purist point of view which is doing it more harm than good in certain parts of the show. I'd rather have it like this rather than the way the OVAs approached, but there are still elements left to be desired here.
Padding, so they can justify this fight for being 2 episodes.
SolarKnight
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The issue is that, ok, with trimming it can be done in less than 24 episodes, but there is just no way it could be done in 12 without some major cutting. It's either big cuts or padding/slowish pace.
Honestly, as long as we don't reach HxH end of Chimera Ant arc pacing I'm fine with the padding.
Honestly, as long as we don't reach HxH end of Chimera Ant arc pacing I'm fine with the padding.
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