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Judgement Day: Too Human Demo Up Now!
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Pop On Arrival
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I wanna play this game so bad, and for all the wrong reasons.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
really was looking forward to this game (was for in the other thread) but not so much anymore. played the demo for 20 minutes this morning and just yeah. hate the camera and controls feel unresponsive.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Woo-Fu said:
:lol
So well put. Look, I went into it completely unbiased and actually enthused about the game. I went out completely the opposite.
As has been pointed out, there might be some ways in which I can approach the combat differently, but either way I'm certainly not as excited about it as I was. And with IU hot on its heels, there's no bellowing need for me to buy it.
too human does not cry casual to me in any wayNolan. said:
seriously the wii sports phenomenon has nothing to do with too human
you cant play the game together on one console (huge mistake in my opinion)
and the theme, the gameplay everything does not appeal to a broad audience like wii sports does
time might prove me wrong
and I really hope it sells well
Alright, so the game does the loot well, but the framerate is horrible at times, cutscenes are terrible, and controls can be problematic/take getting used to - all around at least average, not too thrilling, but isn't broken or something - thanks to the genuine fans I now have a base level of expectation for when I get home, thanks...
I'm laughing at how certain people are trying to lump this in with Lair though, like some sort of retribution... keep on trying guys! :lol
So that's your response to that? Especially if you didn't actually play the game yourself?
Well well.
I'm laughing at how certain people are trying to lump this in with Lair though, like some sort of retribution... keep on trying guys! :lol
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sp0rsk said:
So that's your response to that? Especially if you didn't actually play the game yourself?
Well well.
akachan ningen
Member
This game is gonna be like kane and lynch; if they flood the TV with commercials, it'll sell.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Nolan. said:
Oh wow, ToV is actually the same day as Too Human, 8/19. IU is 9/2.
MaddenNFL64
Member
In the demo, you first fight these machine goblin things, that you pretty much one shot. These weaklings are just fodder for your combo meter. Later on, you fight tougher goblins that can take a few shots, and some shielded goblins who can take quite a bit of damage, and will knock you down a few times if you just melee them without dodging or backing off. Course, i'm still practicing, but I think if you can juggle these guys up into an air melee, they will get finished off.
edit: nvm. it's not an instant kill thing. i did it to a shield goblin just now. killed his shield, but he was still alive.
edit: nvm. it's not an instant kill thing. i did it to a shield goblin just now. killed his shield, but he was still alive.
I think I'm doing something wrong. Baldur doesn't really slide from Non-Dog enemy to Non-Dog enemy....he just waits a moment and THEN goes. That pause is extremely disruptive.
edit: You know something has gone wrong when people are discussing sales in the demo gameplay thread. Please knock it off.
edit: You know something has gone wrong when people are discussing sales in the demo gameplay thread. Please knock it off.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Skilotonn said:
I don't get this whole thing. What does one random dude on TXB have to do with Sp0rsk?
akachan ningen said:
Use your head, you can easily make out whats genuine and whats blatantly inaccurate
When impressions start like "Bollocks, this games hurts my tits etc", rather then "Well, this game starts off decent the becomes quite boring".
Rushing through the game and understanding the game are 2 different things
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people lump games in all the time. not a big thing. dont get offended..
and i dont think sporsk was responding to that. he was responding to someone that claimed some people never gave it a fair chance, etc.
Well I was able to jump on and play for about 15-20 mins. My initial impression for combat control is "sloppy" Thats not to say it controls sloppy but I was just all over the place. Once I found out about holding the right stick in directions and timing the swing of it I was doing much better but I fee I'm always wrestling the camera. One thing I couldn't figure out in my short time was how to target, I felt like I had no control over where I wanted to fight and who I wanted to fight.
I like the look of the graphics alot and I think the cutscenes I saw looked really good its unfortunate that some suffer from bad framerate issues but this seems to be par for this generation unfortunately.
The story is intriguing so far and I really like the look and colortone of the more "human areas"
I would like to say though I'm a loot whore and love grinders so I'm looking forward to getting home after work and finishing the demo but still haven't made up my mind on a purchase, I think I just need more time to see if I like the controls and look at the skill tree a little more.
I like the look of the graphics alot and I think the cutscenes I saw looked really good its unfortunate that some suffer from bad framerate issues but this seems to be par for this generation unfortunately.
The story is intriguing so far and I really like the look and colortone of the more "human areas"
I would like to say though I'm a loot whore and love grinders so I'm looking forward to getting home after work and finishing the demo but still haven't made up my mind on a purchase, I think I just need more time to see if I like the controls and look at the skill tree a little more.
TheHeretic
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duckroll said:
And a conspiracy is born.
Are we realling going to trust MODERATORS to comment on an EX MODERATOR.
I think not. Nice try truth supressor.
Jack Random
Member
I've got the air launch thing down, but i cant connect with an air follow up attack to save my life.MaddenNFL64 said:
farnham said:
I didn't mean it in terms of audience and what they both tend to similarly (because they're opposites). However I think it does enough to please the 360 fanbase. I would be surprised if it managed to outsell Mass effect. Though I think some might be surprised, by how many like cheesy stuff like this. I can see it going on to do well reguardless of what it's lacking.
OK, so i tried the demo.
Havn't really paid a lot of attention to this game since it was announced really, i know it's been in development for a long time and that there's been a lot of hate around the internet for it. I started the demo with an open mind.
Ugh, i didn't enjoy that. Firstly i was greeted with some odd stuttering with sound then some framerate issues. The human models reminded me of metroid prime 3 when i first saw them, animation isn't so hot either some of the time. It just doesn't look right.
Combat is fairly repetitive, most of the time i was moving the analogue stick in circles and being pretty succesfull by doing so. Camera had to be recentered a lot and wasn't very good. AI is a bit dodgy sometimes (saw an enemy and friendly AI standing next to one another for a while). 'Boss' battles weren't really too interesting, mostly consisted of running backwards and shooting while jumping to dodge the hammer smash thing.
Wasn't very hyped for the game in the first place (havn't watched a trailer at all). I kind of expected it to be like PSO, which i really enjoy but seems more like PSU, which i did not enjoy. I expected something better for a game thats been in development for this long. Ah well.
note: I have not read a lot into this thread so i may be repeating things people have said, these are my impressions of how I feel about the demo.
Havn't really paid a lot of attention to this game since it was announced really, i know it's been in development for a long time and that there's been a lot of hate around the internet for it. I started the demo with an open mind.
Ugh, i didn't enjoy that. Firstly i was greeted with some odd stuttering with sound then some framerate issues. The human models reminded me of metroid prime 3 when i first saw them, animation isn't so hot either some of the time. It just doesn't look right.
Combat is fairly repetitive, most of the time i was moving the analogue stick in circles and being pretty succesfull by doing so. Camera had to be recentered a lot and wasn't very good. AI is a bit dodgy sometimes (saw an enemy and friendly AI standing next to one another for a while). 'Boss' battles weren't really too interesting, mostly consisted of running backwards and shooting while jumping to dodge the hammer smash thing.
Wasn't very hyped for the game in the first place (havn't watched a trailer at all). I kind of expected it to be like PSO, which i really enjoy but seems more like PSU, which i did not enjoy. I expected something better for a game thats been in development for this long. Ah well.
note: I have not read a lot into this thread so i may be repeating things people have said, these are my impressions of how I feel about the demo.
akachan ningen
Member
Prine said:
Just because someone doesn't want to put any effort or class into their impressions doesn't mean they are out to badmouth the game. Try using your head. Maybe they're just lazy or are trying to be funny?
On this forum so far, it's been a overwhelming "meh". Usually described as a waste of time. Probably because people stayed up late/woke up early. A very small minority has either liked or hated it.Rottweiler said:
But hey, it's free, and it's become a forum culture thing, so you might as well boot it up when you've got some free time and decide for yourself.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Nolan. said:
Oh, okay. I thought I was missing something, as I saw that link a bunch of times.
Woo-Fu
Banned
Why do the enemies ignore my squadmates and make a beeline for my character, even if I'm not shooting/attacking them? Do they somehow mystically know that my squadmates are worthless cannon fodder and that my character is the only real threat?
There is a bridge-like area with a staggered set of pillars, my squadmates were standing there blocking the enemy and they couldn't get through... but they couldn't seem to do any real damage to each other either.
If the squadmates are useless, why have them? I'd rather they spent that horsepower on more enemies.
There is a bridge-like area with a staggered set of pillars, my squadmates were standing there blocking the enemy and they couldn't get through... but they couldn't seem to do any real damage to each other either.
If the squadmates are useless, why have them? I'd rather they spent that horsepower on more enemies.
RubberJohnny
Banned
Wow, this is bad. I mean, I didn't have the highest expectations for this game, but it still fell short of them.
- Cut-scenes, script are bad, and rather B-movie-ish, especially the animations.
- Characters animations are awful, and really janky.
- Graphics are pretty sterile and not very impressive, I had slight framerate drops but really can't see what this game is doing that's pushing the hardware to cause them.
- Combat is pretty dull, you just twiddle the sticks, if anything it's a step back from the rest of the genre.
+ It's in a genre I like, I mean - loot and stuff, right? That's still a pretty low recommendation.
- Cut-scenes, script are bad, and rather B-movie-ish, especially the animations.
- Characters animations are awful, and really janky.
- Graphics are pretty sterile and not very impressive, I had slight framerate drops but really can't see what this game is doing that's pushing the hardware to cause them.
- Combat is pretty dull, you just twiddle the sticks, if anything it's a step back from the rest of the genre.
+ It's in a genre I like, I mean - loot and stuff, right? That's still a pretty low recommendation.
Randy Lanzarote
Member
I dunno what the big deal is about, I really don't.
Its not brilliant.
Its not shit.
As far as I'm concerned it lands slap-bang in the middle of "decidedly average" territory. If it didn't have Dyack's bit mouth behind it it would have come and gone without so much of a murmur.
Still you gotta hand it to Denis, he's gotten the game a hell of a lot more publicity and column inches than it deserves.
Its not brilliant.
Its not shit.
As far as I'm concerned it lands slap-bang in the middle of "decidedly average" territory. If it didn't have Dyack's bit mouth behind it it would have come and gone without so much of a murmur.
Still you gotta hand it to Denis, he's gotten the game a hell of a lot more publicity and column inches than it deserves.
Diablohead
Member
Same here.SMZC said:
AzureNightmare
Banned
Wow, I want that hour of my life back. What a mediocre pile of shit! :lol
Seriously. I thought some one had slipped LSD into my Soda or something. The constant randomness of the camera combined with the lack of control over it pissed me off repeatedly. Plus the AI is dumber than dried dog shit. And the dialogue, oh god the dialogue, it made me want to burst out laughing at how fucking cheesy it was. Sorry Dyack, go back to the drawing board, cause this shit sucks.
Seriously. I thought some one had slipped LSD into my Soda or something. The constant randomness of the camera combined with the lack of control over it pissed me off repeatedly. Plus the AI is dumber than dried dog shit. And the dialogue, oh god the dialogue, it made me want to burst out laughing at how fucking cheesy it was. Sorry Dyack, go back to the drawing board, cause this shit sucks.
MaddenNFL64
Member
ya, catching someone in a mid-air melee juggle isn't the easiest thing. I'm having some success by using the guns to hold them in a general area, then closing the distance a bit, jumping & slashing at the moment I connect with them as they fall down.
edit: hmm, might work better if you melee right after jumping, instead of timing it with the enemy falling.
edit: hmm, might work better if you melee right after jumping, instead of timing it with the enemy falling.
memecomplex
Member
Such a shame... what wasted effort. Love the art style (it's different, with people who actually look like real people - varied, flawed), love the setting, obviously a lot of effort and heart went into making this game.
But the gameplay is just embarrassing coming after Ninja Gaiden 2. I mean pressing towards to execute a melee attack? There is absolutely no involvement or satisfaction in doing so - what in the world possessed sane (and evidently) talented people to adopt this style of gameplay? Was this not playtested? Didn't anyone raise anything?
And it's not like using the right stick allows you to control your character's attacks in a precise 360 degree coverage, it's so sloppy and feels out of your hand. I mean come on man, this is like the worst control system for a beat-em up/shooter ever. Even Diablo requires you to click your mouse button. Simply pointing in the direction is just lame, lame, lame.
Too bad, would have enjoyed visiting this world otherwise. We need more Norse mythology-inspired games.
Like Itagaki says, a game, be it fighting or shooting pretty much sets it's own rules, it's the last 10% that makes the game good or bad... and this last 10% is pretty much where Too Human fails.
Silicon Knights, you guys have massive talent, you just need a little common sense. Please consider our enjoyment as your potential customers when making your next game. If there is a next time after this...
But the gameplay is just embarrassing coming after Ninja Gaiden 2. I mean pressing towards to execute a melee attack? There is absolutely no involvement or satisfaction in doing so - what in the world possessed sane (and evidently) talented people to adopt this style of gameplay? Was this not playtested? Didn't anyone raise anything?
And it's not like using the right stick allows you to control your character's attacks in a precise 360 degree coverage, it's so sloppy and feels out of your hand. I mean come on man, this is like the worst control system for a beat-em up/shooter ever. Even Diablo requires you to click your mouse button. Simply pointing in the direction is just lame, lame, lame.
Too bad, would have enjoyed visiting this world otherwise. We need more Norse mythology-inspired games.
Like Itagaki says, a game, be it fighting or shooting pretty much sets it's own rules, it's the last 10% that makes the game good or bad... and this last 10% is pretty much where Too Human fails.
Silicon Knights, you guys have massive talent, you just need a little common sense. Please consider our enjoyment as your potential customers when making your next game. If there is a next time after this...