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Kentucky clerk Kim Davis denies same-sex marriage license again, despite end of stay
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because someone is probably ghostwriting this woman an autobiography about how she is a righteous warrior of god so she can sell fuck loads of religious literature to those kinds of book stores (maybe we will even get a low budget film adaptation that will make god's not dead money!) and do national tv panels on america's favorite right-wing network.
there will be lots of gofundme money when the state strips her of her position.
Zoe
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Bureaucracy takes time. The county attorney filed charges against her last week.
What about her past? Does she have any skeletons that could highlight her hypocrisy even more?
I don't understand why the court doesn't reassign her job duties, but it seems they have doubled down on this circus she's created. You would think that the media and spotlight would cause other employees to have a difficultly doing their normal job, not to mention having a microphone shoved in your face to get your opinion of the situation every time you try to go take a shit.
I don't understand why the court doesn't reassign her job duties, but it seems they have doubled down on this circus she's created. You would think that the media and spotlight would cause other employees to have a difficultly doing their normal job, not to mention having a microphone shoved in your face to get your opinion of the situation every time you try to go take a shit.
She herself is a divorcee.
She's presumably remarried divorced couples. She unknowingly signed off on a marriage cert. of a transgender couple.
She isn't logically consistent.
Not really. Republicans just learned how to pit different groups against one another on the national level starting with the southern strategy.
yeah, i'm aware of this. it's just a strange thing to witness on a personal level when talking to real, actual people rather than reading political theory and strategy.
Oh, okay. So she can't /just/ be fired. There's a process.
GoldenEye 007
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Well she would be punted out in accordance with local law. Same as here. If there is a specific process, it must be followed. Last thing you'd want is the state acting illegally in removing her just so she has additional cause to use the courts.
Of course the shortcut to all of this would be throwing her in jail which happens hopefully soon.
Hmm.. it seems he and I think alike:
We know how this ends. If I'm one of the two in the couple, I play it up for emotional damages when in front of the cameras, all while knowing that the longer this story stays alive, the better the chances are that this gets brought-up in the GOP race (force each candidate to take a position? Maybe it'll be a debate question?), thus helping a little tiny bit in the cause of getting more friendly judges in place for the future.
(But I'm a cynical, plotting bastard..)
We know how this ends. If I'm one of the two in the couple, I play it up for emotional damages when in front of the cameras, all while knowing that the longer this story stays alive, the better the chances are that this gets brought-up in the GOP race (force each candidate to take a position? Maybe it'll be a debate question?), thus helping a little tiny bit in the cause of getting more friendly judges in place for the future.
(But I'm a cynical, plotting bastard..)
Coriolanus
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Hey man, i'm still trying to figure out why people vote for judges.
"here's an immensely technical position. Let's fill it up via a popularity contest."
Shake Appeal
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Granted that it varies somewhat from place to place, no one has ever been able to give me an explanation for this.
Overwhelmingly, American elected officials also get to run redistricting, too. It's mindblowing.
fixedpoint
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Well, the alternative is that an appointed official gets to run elections. That's not exactly free of bias either. It's probably worse.
how many people actually voted for County Clerk?
Big Baybee
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If they decide to fine her instead of jail, can it be a sliding scale to make up for all the idiots that will send her money? I think I read somewhere she will be fined per day.
Zoe
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Yes. The county can't be the one to force her out, it has to come from the state. The county attorney has filed charges, but the state has to appoint an attorney from a different county.
Presumably the state would be for getting rid of her because it was the governor's office in the first place that told her to do her job or get out.
I KNEW she seemed familiar.
trineo_feo
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That's not the only alternative. In my country there is an examn (a fucking hard one), and the ones with the best grades get the job. Not appointed, not elected. That works for police, judges, administration, nurses, teachers...
Random Painted HIghway
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It's either let the people elect the local judges directly or they are appointed/hired by someone/come committee that they have to pledge a loyalty and purity to. I've had friends and colleagues appointed judge, I know how it works, it is not pretty. I would make judicial elections be non partisan, frankly, that would eliminate straight ticket voted in judges which from my experience is the biggest problem with judicial elections.
Zoe
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Assigning posts based on grades won't fly in many areas due to affirmative action.
Why aren't Supreme Court justices elected then?
I dunno, having your political parties run elections seems like begging for abuse. Gerrymandering, malapportionment, discriminatory voting rules, all spring from it.
At least a body that's nominally independent can block very basic abuses like it does in other nations. I fail to see how it could be worse.
trineo_feo
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onadesertedisland
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When they take an oath of office, there needs to be a mechanism to root out religious exemption to fulfilling their duty.
Her and her staff face a judge tomorrow. They're expected to face daily fines (the other parties have not asked for jail yet)
She won't be impeached anytime soon as the legislature is not in session
Agree.. no jail. I mainly want the daily fine to be high enough such that no GoFundMe-type operation can keep up.
i wonder if there would be legal ramifications for accepting gofundme money while ignoring judicial orders. isn't that effectively bribing the system?
Someone mentioned statutes that prevent government employees from accepting funds/gifts related to the performance of their duties.
BertramCooper
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Gay people are dirty birdies.
hehe
At least now we have a face to put next to the word "bigotry" in the dictionary.
Without threat of firing or jail time, she'll just refuse to pay, as she's refused to issue licensees. I'm sure someone would start a fundraising campaign online for like minded bigots to pay her fines, and she'd come out a hero.
She needs to be removed from her job.
Veritigo_X
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BertramCooper
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It's not really an experiment. It's what courts do when government officials repeatedly fail to comply with court rulings.
Watch Show Me A Hero on HBO for an example of this.
Count Dookkake
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#kentuckycumdump
Would the fundraising basically be illegal? Id be like she getting paid to not do her job.
boiled goose
good with gravy
1. Place a daily fine for Every couple she denied rights to. Hetero and homo.
2. Jail her.
3. A judge should rule that donations and gifts are forbidden as an acceptable way to pay the fines. She has to pay her own money and not taxpayers.
4. Rule she also has to pay court costs out of pocket.
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Admit she is wrong and personally issue licenses to every couple denied, while making a formal apology to each and every person individually in person, and issue an apology to the county and the state for not doing her job as well as making a legally binding vow that she will do her job forever without issue.
Basically its jail and fines or a bit of shaming, but still having freedom and money...
2. Jail her.
3. A judge should rule that donations and gifts are forbidden as an acceptable way to pay the fines. She has to pay her own money and not taxpayers.
4. Rule she also has to pay court costs out of pocket.
or
Admit she is wrong and personally issue licenses to every couple denied, while making a formal apology to each and every person individually in person, and issue an apology to the county and the state for not doing her job as well as making a legally binding vow that she will do her job forever without issue.
Basically its jail and fines or a bit of shaming, but still having freedom and money...
ryutaro's mama
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Nope. GoFundMe would provide subsides and her fuckery could continue.
Zoe
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There was a three year hiring freeze for the Austin Fire Department because minorities weren't able to score high enough on the exam. You need more factors than just a test for public positions.
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