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Killer Instinct is coming to Steam
- Thread starter Theorry
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forza horizon 3 had massive performance issues on PC from what i heard, so that's another reason. most of the UWP games microsoft has put out have had something go technically very wrong at launch.
add to that the general bugginess of the store preventing people from even buying/downloading things in the first place and the locked-down nature of it keeping people from fixing technical problems like they would with any other storefront. there's also the fact that since it was designed as a mobile app store intended to serve generally small programs it has design decisions that don't scale well like requiring double a game's size in order to download and install, plus large patches generally not working well at all.
the whole thing is a clusterfuck and it's completely unsurprising that lots of people just avoid it entirely.
thelastword
Banned
Well it makes sense for MS because they make windows eh!
Teknopathetic
Member
"Injection directx (or any other api) hooking, modifying the files all work on uwp.
People thought injection was locked for instance, but it turns out you just need a different method of acquiring the process. There are some special considerations, and tricks (for example the app you try to inject might be suspended so you need to consider that scenario).
It will be even easier in the Fall Creators Update, because the app will receive the capability to declare an executable for the system, so you will be able to find running processes by name."
That's good to hear, actually. I stand corrected.
People thought injection was locked for instance, but it turns out you just need a different method of acquiring the process. There are some special considerations, and tricks (for example the app you try to inject might be suspended so you need to consider that scenario).
It will be even easier in the Fall Creators Update, because the app will receive the capability to declare an executable for the system, so you will be able to find running processes by name."
That's good to hear, actually. I stand corrected.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Very good to see.
petran79
Banned
The biggest issue is you cant copy, modify, move or remove game files in the game folder, thus making the process even harder. Not even editing ini or cfg files. Modding should also be accessible to users without extensive knowledge.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Great progress news for those that want to tinker.
Gears 4 recently got a Multi-GPU update as well IIRC.
So it's not impossible, just depends on the developer.
That's weird.
A lot of what's wrong with the Window's Store has been fixed. I think a lot of people still have frequent problems downloading games, which when your're talking about games as big as Gears 4 (100GB) can end up wasting hundreds of gigs of bandwidth for broken downloads. Outside of that though, it just doesn't have anything that Steam and GOG don't. Windows Store has had to work its way to just having basic acceptable functionality. Plus there's still a lot of bad blood over GFWL, and this is starting from an even worse position. I guess the only two "advantages" of the Windows Store are that you get connected to the XBL community and you can move games between drives more easily than you can with Steam.
Right now I'm fine playing Gears 4 and Horizon 3 but would buy them on Steam in an instant.
But this is a property MS fully owns.
Right now I'm fine playing Gears 4 and Horizon 3 but would buy them on Steam in an instant.
But this is a property MS fully owns.
It works fine until a match starts, then it's just ... stops.
El Sabroso
Member
I assume all my paid dlc won't carry over, right?
nope, hope there is some connection to Win10/XB1 version linking a MS account or something like that
Red Arremer
Member
Speculation of course, but I do think that it's a feasible scenario.
This sounds like you have some bizarre circumstances. This just isn't a thing. Anything you might have left out?
Phantom Dust as well
Yeah, a free game is being "held hostage" because you people don't want to play it elsewhere but steam.
I have 24 hours locked in and $25 spent for support. Steam would give it a bigger boost though
I would be shocked if there's no crossplay given their recent PR on the idea, and my understanding of how Minecraft works. You're able to use your Minecraft purchases across platforms wnd earn achievements, right? If this doesn't require Windows 10, then I would assume they'll have a slimmed down version of the Xbox app or something similar built into the game. It would be nice if your current Xbox profile carries over too.
Red Arremer
Member
I'd gladly take GOG, Humble Store or any other digital distributor that isn't Windows Store.
Zap Rowsdower
Banned
As stated before its not the costumers' faults that Windows 10 Store is a steaming pile, its Microsoft's
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
If people want accessible fighters they really should give KI a shot. It's the most easy pick up and play game released in years and despite us getting a bevy of great fighters over the last month KI was the last game to really sink it's teeth into me.
You can play it for free on xbox too.
I'd have no problem buying it on the Windows store if I could add it to steam to use my DS4, but I cant
KI is a blast. A great systems with fun ass characters. A game where you can pick up characters fairly easy, with a pretty open combo system. Haven't played it since last summer, but man the online is really good, and the game is a lot of fun. I'm curious what their plan is if you have the characters already on the Win10 version. I'll probably play it again.
Red Arremer
Member
Sure I'll just go and get my free XBox.
Ricerocket
Member
Cool. I might give this a try. Last time I played this was 1st game early in it's day at the arcades or on Snes. When 2 came out it, it didn't catch my attention.
This isn't true.
This is pretty cool for people who avoid W10 store. Personally I haven't had many issues with the store itself. Forza Apex hung at the start screen the first time I launched it but I tried again and it was straight. I don't know, I click download and it downloads fine. Then I start the game. But I understand that I'm just one person and apparently a lot of people have some type of horrible experience with it. Having said that, given the chance I'd still pick Steam but none of these clients and storefronts give me any problems.
Tough luck bud. You can still get it for free for a xbox account and redeem it later if you ever buy one. Fact remains that the game is still free on two platforms and its not being held hostage to the w10 store in any sense - unless microsoft is the only one not allowed to have any kind of exclusive service to their products anymore.
I'd imagine this is separate to Play Anywhere so if you own the Xbox One/Windows 10 version you won't get the Steam version.
Hopefully they keep still allow cross play (don't see why not as you could still sign in to your Xbox Live account with the Steam game).
You can do cross play between the Windows 10 and Xbox One versions. Also if you buy the game (or packs) the content (and your save progress) is on both the Xbox One and Windows 10.
Hopefully they keep still allow cross play (don't see why not as you could still sign in to your Xbox Live account with the Steam game).
You can do cross play between the Windows 10 and Xbox One versions. Also if you buy the game (or packs) the content (and your save progress) is on both the Xbox One and Windows 10.
You're being purposely obtuse. It's already been stated several times that it's the Windows Store itself that is the problem, not the fact it isn't on Steam. Price isn't the issue. Not owning an Xbox One isn't the issue. But keep on bringing up non-relevant issues that are the real problem to our motivations.
Anything that isn't shitstore 10 would be fine.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
It's not even that. It's like they designed KI specifically to make UWP look god awful.
At first it launched so that it ran at whatever refresh rate your monitor was so it ran in fast forwad on a 144hz monitor.
Then they somehow tied Season 2 to the Windows Anniversary Update rendering the game unavailable if you didn't or couldn't update.
A couple of weeks back the game became busted on the title screen and would just go into a loop while checking your online account. (Got cleared up fairly quickly, but that was annoying.)
Just having my games not randomly vanish on me is reason enough to never buy a UWP game ever again.
King Gilga
Member
Nice, might actually try it now.
Like fuck I was ever going to bother with it on the UWP store.
Like fuck I was ever going to bother with it on the UWP store.
CriterionDog
Member
Always wanted to try more of this. Only played bits and pieces of it on the OG Xbox One kiosks at gamestop near launch, even though I have a Xbox One S.
No, i'm not. If the windows store is the problem, the game is free for xbox, which doesn't use the w10 store. If owning an xbox isn't the problem, then what is the issue now?
They're not giving their free game (that they made free to bring people to their services - xbox and w10store - to begin with) to steam and let them take 30% of microtransations just because people dislike the w10 store. That's common sense.
This is a discussion of PC client/storefront(s). What does a console have to do with this? Nothing.
joseranulfo
Member
Count me up with the people that have no problem with the windows store, happy to see the game coming to steam but I'm baffled by the number of people that are opposed to it on principle.
I also have no problem with any of the other half dozen stores I'm using, the one that gives me more problems is uplay.
I also have no problem with any of the other half dozen stores I'm using, the one that gives me more problems is uplay.
I was discussing someone saying Phantom Dust was being "held hostage" by the w10 store before you got in the conversation. That's what "a console has to do with this".
This is great news. Bravo Microsoft for not holding on to a storefront or proprietary format forever. I am cool if they do it a timed release and things come to steam after they have sold the bulk of the UWPs they think they will.
I regret the purchase of my Xbox one and will likely never buy another Microsoft console, but will still be able to buy and play the games on top of the line hardware in exe format. Thank you Microsoft. Someone else could make a lot of money/gamers happy if they followed your lead.
I was really concerned the monkey paw to being able to play on PC would be UWp's..I hope this becomes less and less.
I regret the purchase of my Xbox one and will likely never buy another Microsoft console, but will still be able to buy and play the games on top of the line hardware in exe format. Thank you Microsoft. Someone else could make a lot of money/gamers happy if they followed your lead.
I was really concerned the monkey paw to being able to play on PC would be UWp's..I hope this becomes less and less.
Silent Hill
Banned
Fantastic. Fuck that windows store.
Tame Deity
Member
YES. Fuck the Windows store to eternity forever.