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KILLZONE 3 |OT| The King Is Dead. Long Live The King.
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StealthGoblin
Banned
Confidence Man said:
There is no aim assist in MP.
Not finished yet but the vibration analysis is terrific.TTP said:My Killzone 3 Move + Multiplayer video analysis is up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWF0yZCmpNo
Enjoy!
Man said:
Should have picked that up in my previous video. Didn't think about disabling vibration via the XMB and I was convinced it was intentional to begin with. Then while playing MP i noticed the cursor would shake whenever the rumble was active (very noticeable when you are low on health as it shakes at ever heart beat rumble) and went like "this can't be intentional..." etc.
Confidence Man
Member
So it's not auto aim, but it looks like there are a lot of hits when the crosshair isn't on the enemy. I suppose it's like that even without the Move, it just looks more pronounced.
r.gun said:
Definitely possible. MAG for example doesn't suffer from this. Perhaps this is the reason why MAG has some cursor deadzone (doesn't pick up the smallest movements) while KZ3 doesn't have any (cursor trembles a tiny bit even if you put the Move on a tripod).
Basically I think GG went for the super responsive to the expense of stability. Would be nice to know if they experimented with adding a tiny bit of deadzone to the cursor. I guess it doesn't have to big that big to avoid the consequences of rumble detection.
bobbytkc said:
Nono. The controller doesn't shake. I mean, if you put it on a tripod and pull the trigger, the cursor shakes regardless because the sensors are so accurate they pic up the rumble vibrations (which are not so big to cause the whole Move to shake).
On a side note, this shows Sony wasn't BS'ing us when they said they had to remove rumble for the Sixaxis as it affected the sensor. They perhaps added it later upon realizing nobody was using the Sixaxis sensors regardless so they said "fuck it"
bobbytkc said:
It's not so much that the controller shakes in your hand, but that the sensors read the vibrations as larger movements than they are I believe. There will always be a small amount of movement with the Move controls due to your hand moving, but the way TTP described it was that there seems to be some extra movement due to the vibrations causing the sensors to misread.
TabletopTictacs
Member
http://community.us.playstation.com/message/30952652?tstart=0#30952652
Well think harder!
I can't wait to see how this game is going to evolve over the next year with all these patches.
Man this games gets better and better the more you re-play it. Going through my Elite run and having a lot of fun.
If I had to review it after the first pt at Trooper I'd have given it a 7.
Now I'd give it a 9 and I'm not even past midway.
If I had to review it after the first pt at Trooper I'd have given it a 7.
Now I'd give it a 9 and I'm not even past midway.
Successfully went through the jungle un-stealthy. Love to melee the ninja higgs with the Move.
Lion Heart
Banned
TTP said:
Sweet
Rapping Granny
Banned
WTF LOOK AT THAT AUTOAIM.
Fucking Move is a noob ass bitch device. This shit is worse the fucking changes from KZ2 that people are complaining about.
Fucking Move is a noob ass bitch device. This shit is worse the fucking changes from KZ2 that people are complaining about.
Always-honest
Banned
ehh.. no.Rapping Granny said:
RotBot said:
That's not explained nor shown in that video at all. It is explained in the previous one and I simply mentioned it there. I should have probably shown it again.
Anyway, check this one for camera assist explaination (the COD-like assist is present only in the Campaign mode btw):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=levDGb1FY6E#t=04m05s
i watched it again and i think it appears like autoaim sometimes because the weapon (and the crosshair moves separately from the camera. ppl (like me) playing with controller and kb/m are used to see the crosshair and weapon to move parallel to the camera.
Quite impressive how accurate it is. So i guess good clan players will dominate with move.
Quite impressive how accurate it is. So i guess good clan players will dominate with move.
TTP said:My Killzone 3 Move + Multiplayer video analysis is up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWF0yZCmpNo
Enjoy!
Nice. My main concern with the move controls was with the movement. I guess I didn't really think that I would have to adjust my DualShock learned behaviors in order to succeed with the Move. For example, the need to move around in order to track your opponents better is something that I wasn't really used to. Similarly, keeping the cursor at the side of the screen when strafing is somewhat of a new concept for me.
I've always thought the shooting was great with it though. Some of my favorite memories outside of the epic mortar kills I've gotten occurred during the few times I used my Move controller instead of the DS. Double, triple, and multiple kills just seem to be abundant when shooting with the move. I love being able to shoot guys coming from multiple angles on my screen without reducing my visibility by adjusting the camera position.
Also, seeing familiar names on screen most of the time really allowed me to absorb all of the information presented in the video. It felt like I was actually playing because all of the other players I usually play with were there as well.
Some of the GAF names I spotted:
AJ, Shagg, Full Recovery, and myself (Broken).
Finally got to play the SP demo last night and HOLY CRAP!!! This game looks beyond amazing and plays even better than KZ2 (I loved KZ2). In some ways, I do miss the KZ2's dark gritty environments and "cinematic" look compared to KZ3 as this looks too clean. But it still looks gorgeous. The demo was pretty good length. And Rico haters should be a lot more pleased with him this time lol. A.I is fucking brilliant! WASP is totally BAD ASS weapon of the year!! So much variety just in the demo. I loved every minute of it and it ended very interestingly .
Bring it on!
.Bring it on!
TacticalFox88
Banned
Tempted SOOOO bad to get Move. Wow, Move players are going to own those with traditional controllers
RotBot said:
It does that but there are issues with it (which is why I say it does more harm than good).
First of all, while it locks the camera to the target, the target is not completely centered. It has some sort of deadzone it can move around freely without triggering camera rotation. And you still have to move the cursor on it.
But that's not the thing. The thing is that a) camera can lock to the "wrong" target if you pull L2 before being 100% sure the cursor is closer to your intended target and not someone else. When you have got a pack of enemies ahead of you, you are never sure which one it's gonna lock onto, and if it lock to one and that target runs away, the camera will follow him (even behind wall) and you'll lose track of the other guys (which will rip u a new one).
The other thing is that camera assist automatically switches between normal and down the sights depending on target distance. You have no control over it. So say you have locked onto a close target in normal view and then it moves farther enough to trigger scoped aim. That switch fucks up your aiming.
BeeDog said:Can you perhaps motivate your initial score of 7? And the change of attitude towards the game?
basically it's soo easy I rushed through it and didn't appreciate all the different approaches possibilities you are given. Which is something you do notice and appreciate when playing on an harder difficulty setting cos you die & re-try more often and experiment more.
Higgs also die less quickly and hence have more time to put you into uneasy situations.
Also, firefights ended so quickly the cutscenes separating them felt too frequent. They don't feel as frequent when getting past each firefight takes more time.
That's basically it. If you are gonna play this once, do it on Veteran.
Lion Heart
Banned
TacticalFox88 said:
When I played with it in Modern Combat, I was struggling big time but still went 5-0, 8-2, 6-1 etc. And that was with a bad calibration lol. However Killzone 3 is a more mobile game and probably controls a lot better than MC with a DS3 but ya...I can see move players dominating (woot).
MustacheBandit_
Member
TacticalFox88 said:
i succumbed to the GAF hype and got one. Had a chance to play a few rounds of open beta while it was still up and even when I was still not used to it at all, I found myself getting kills so easily it felt like I was cheating. The movement will need some practice and settings tweaks but like any other device I am sure I will get used to it quickly with practice.
dragonfart28
Banned
Looks alright. The turning sensitivity still seems really weak.
Always-honest
Banned
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!. Now i don´t have to switch to the sixaxis just for jetpack parts of the game )and onlineTTP said: